X-Men 3

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

Executives think we want that shit. This is the same fucked-up logic that causes them to put rollerblading kangaroos on drink boxes.

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

If Quill is meant to bite the big one, then I feel they could've at least found a REAL, expendable character. Husk or Northstar comes to mind.

I can name a couple of mutants who'd be great to throw into a X-Men movie - but can't we all forget about Generation X? After the original artist left, the series completely shit the bed. (House Of M, my ass)

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Kick ass movie. Cyclops is getting screwed in these films, though. I think he totals about 10 mins of screen time in the entire trilogy. I always expected more from him, since he was one of the MAIN X-Men, being the leader and all (wasn’t he?).

ALSO, make sure you check out this link before you go into X3 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=H746naqMkac

I can’t believe the director decided to put that in. Fucking awesome.

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The major comment i've heard (and over half my school watched it, we had a free day after exams the day it came out) was that it was too short and

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they kill off everyone

I really wanted to see more character development, e.g. the Rogue/Iceman/Kitty love triangle, Colossus being more established, Angel actually doing stuff! Juggernaut was way cool though and funny with his accent.


No one really complained about the abundance of mutants, but moreso the lack of Gambit and the loss of Nightcrawler. There was some good lines "Do you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" But some are corny too "cocoon of telekinetic energy".

My major criticism was that after watching the trailers, the entire exposition is predictable and seems disjointed. The ending is obvious and the only real shockers happen in the non-action scenes in the middle.

Originally Posted by Kishin

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At the end, though, it's not Magneto, it's X in Magneto's body moving the chess piece. If you remember X's lesson he gave to young mutants about soul transferring. How could M move a wooden piece anyway.

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Umm... it's a metal chess set in front of Magneto. All the other sets are plastic.

However, stay behind after you watch the film. There is an epilogue, not so much a trailer which I heard about from friends, so I guess this is relatively reliable

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Remember the classroom scene wih Xavier discussing ethics, watching Moira Mactaggert on TV? Xavier and his ubiquity transfers his mind into the comatose guy

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Originally Posted by Dewman

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Umm... it's a metal chess set in front of Magneto. All the other sets are plastic.

However, stay behind after you watch the film. There is an epilogue, not so much a trailer which I heard about from friends, so I guess this is relatively reliable

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Remember the classroom scene wih Xavier discussing ethics, watching Moira Mactaggert on TV? Xavier and his ubiquity transfers his mind into the comatose guy

I guess I interpreted things wrong, then. Could've sworn, though. As you can see, I haven't actually read shit of the X-men comics, so I'm basing everything on what I see in the actual movies.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Why was I always under the impression that Beast was a genius scientist and not a politician. And did they refer to him as 'Beast' once in the entire movie?

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Yeah, I think storm called him Beast.

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I liked the movie. It definately could have used to be about 20-30 minutes longer, since it was lacking in character development. The ending does leave it open if they wanted to continue the series.

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However, I thought it was stupid that it was decided that Cyclops should die so early on in the movie. He gets so little screen time for a character of that magnitude, and yet Spike gets more airtime they he did. In my opinion, they missed out of further developing his relationship between Jean and Wolverine.

The ending with Magneto moving the chess piece could go alot of places.It could turn out that the cure was only temporary. Considering he got shot up with 4 needles leads me to believe that it was a cure that was yet to be perfected.

Too wide open an ending for FOX not to shat out another X-Men movie (especially with this one taking in a huge amount of money more than likely).

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One of the CFOs or CEOs at FOX has already greenlighted X-Men 4, according to various news sources.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

One of the CFOs or CEOs at FOX has already greenlighted X-Men 4, according to various news sources.

Only the best trilogies have 4 parts.

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Originally Posted by quazi

Only the best trilogies have 4 parts.

But stupid, snide remarks by jerks are not only left to the internet.

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Well after seeing the film...I can't say I was disappointed in it, however the 'absolution' of characters were hit or miss with me.

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Cyc dying so early and hell, dying in general was ridiculous. Even though it happened in the comics, just the fact they would be bring that element in was just not worth it. And holy shit....Xavier...dead... That was just unbelievable. It was just very saddening to see the true leader and pinnacle of human and mutant peace...just die. Hopefully what BucPride said is true..and somehow Xavier is still alive through Magneto. Whoa..wait a minute...Mag and Xavier as one...Onslaught?

And what else....Dark Phoenix was defintiely evil. What she did was just unbelievable, and it's frightening in my opinion...to see how evil and dark The Phoenix was. So yea...they did a good job making her scary.

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After the credits roll, we saw Xavier inprinted on a comatose patient on Muir Island. That could be Xavier's 'rebirth' so to speak. However, I find it hard for the story to continue minus all the characters they've killed off.

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Originally Posted by BucPride

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After the credits roll, we saw Xavier inprinted on a comatose patient on Muir Island. That could be Xavier's 'rebirth' so to speak. However, I find it hard for the story to continue minus all the characters they've killed off.

Xavier once said, "There are no pearly gates for the X-Men. Instead, there are revolving doors"

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Kickass! This movie was awesome. Like any other movie it had it's good parts and bad parts

Pros:

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-The final battle
-Seeing Rebecca Romijn naked
-"Do you know I am? I'm the Juggarnaut *****!"
-Every scene with Beast in it. Especially the final battle
-Iceman finally getting in this ice form
-Multiple Man tricking the soldiers
-Everything with Phoenix(She kinda creeped me out)
-Wolverine kicking that guy in the balls and saying "Grow those back."
-The scene after the credits

Cons:

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-Not very much screentime for Angel. They made it seem like he was gonna have a bigger role.
-No Colossus vs Juggarnaut fight
-Juggarnaut getting beat by running into a wall
-Cyclops' death. I knew he wasn't gonna have a big role and that he was gonna die. I just didn't expect it to be that early in the movie.
-Colossus not having very many lines(I think he only had one.)
-Psylocke getting killed. WTF? Why?!
-The movie being too short. I think it should have been at least 20 minutes longer.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I saw the film tonight. It was actually better than I expected. One point annoyed me, something which displayed a general lack of back knowledge on the writers' part.

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When Kitty and Juggernaut square off in Leech's quarters, she fakes Juggernaut out by drawing him into Leech's "range", causing Juggernaut to helplessly collide with a reinforced wall. This is fucking stupid, as Cain Marko is not and never was a mutant. Any longtime fan can tell you that his power comes from the Gem of Cyttorak, a completely external source. Leech's presence should've had no effect and Kitty should have, by all rights, been a mutant pancake.

Other notes:

It was cool to see Beast actually knock some skulls around. Tapping into his feral side demonstrated a three-dimensional quality to the character, which is more than they ever did for Cyclops.

I never read through a full list of expected cameos, so seeing Jamie Madrox (Multiple Man), Callisto and Arclight was a pleasant surprise. Arclight seems like an odd choice, since she was a rather minor entity dating back to the old Marauders squad. But hey, that's what a cameo is, right?

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Callisto was grossly misrepresented. In the comics, she possesses heightened strength and speed, but not to the extremes that were depicted on screen. That sort of movement is on Quicksilver's level.
Also, Callisto CANNOT sense other mutants. She can sense her surroundings, sort of like Wolverine, but tracking other mutants is the skill of Caliban, one of Callisto's Morlock followers from the books. I thought this was sloppy writing.

Wolverine was chased in the forest by the guy who generated bony spikes. I'm going to presume this was the "Spike" character that was quasi-created f the movie. Here's what I don't like: his ability is congruous with Marrow, an established character. Why not thrill fans and simply use her?

I'm then going to presume the youngster who looked like a porcupine was "Flea". Another made-for-movie joke. There's no dearth of mutant villains out there. It would've been just as simple to write in Blob or Avalanche for the part, or "borrow" a good guy to play an evil role (a la Multiple Man). Dazzler, Sunfire or Wolfsbane could've worked in that situation.

Something that left me uncertain:

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Did Rogue get the cure? I saw the scene but it wasn't conclusive enough for me.

What I did like was the scene after the confrontation at Jean's house. Logan's grief was actually believable and not overworked.

I'm also not weeping at the lack of screentime for Cyclops. Teamwise, he's an anchor but he's also as exciting as driftwood. The character doesn't emote much and Marsden has always seemed incapable of showing emotion as well. Frankly, all scenes with Cyclops, past and current, have been something of a bore. I'm glad the writing and directing team finally realized this and cut him out early. At least Storm has a semblance of a personality to work with, even though Halle Berry doesn't.

Also, which one was Psylocke and where did she die?

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A spoiler would've been appreciated on your list of Con's, KCJ506.

Still debating whether or not I'll see this. The release really snuck up on me. I was looking at the internet this afternoon for show-times for Da Vinci Code and saw the show-time for this listed. Blindsided me entirely. Might just save it for the movie channels. X1 & X2 were nice the first time I saw them. No more beyond that.

I was speaking idiomatically.

My thoughts:

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Shame that they had to kill off so many people, but it was an enjoyable movie overall. Definitely the worst in the series, but still good enough to carry the "X-men" tag.

Favorite parts:
- Awesome fight at Jean's house. I loved the Phoenix vs Xavier thing, and Juggernaut vs Wolverine was good while it lasted.

- Magneto still having his "powers" at the end.

- Wolvering healing and walking to Phoenix was a nice moment too.

Lows:
- Too much waste potential. Cyclops, Rogue, Angel, Spike, Colossus, etc. It's hard to use everyone, but having them do nothing meaningful is just the worst thing that can happen.

- Jug losing to the wall... I'm pretty sure he's not even suppose to be a mutant according to the comics.

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

Also, which one was Psylocke and where did she die?

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Psylocke was one of the mutants at the very end on the island inside, taking out Warren Worthington II. You see her and the two mutants she's with (I think the spikey Flea guy and some other one (I cant recall at the moment). Ultimately, Jean just kills her.

I'm curious myself, did Juggernaut die? He was in Alcatraz when Jean was laying waste to it and everything dying around her.

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Originally Posted by Gechmir

A spoiler would've been appreciated on your list of Con's, KCJ506.

Sorry. I'm trying to edit it and make it so you can hide spoilers, but I don't how.

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Originally Posted by KCJ506

Sorry. I'm trying to edit it and make it so you can hide spoilers, but I don't how.

Use the ]spoiler[ ]/spoiler[ tags.

I'm just going to get to the point: so long as it entertains, it's going to satisfy someone out there. I came away satisfied even though I knew about all the nitpicks die-hard fans were going to have with the movie. I mean, it's a movie, for god's sake. No one cares if so-and-so's origin is inaccurate or isn't according to the book. This is an entirely different universe.

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The scene at the end where Magneto was sitting in the park and no one was playing chess with him made me feel bad for the guy. He just looked so lonely.

Then he had to go and wiggle that chess piece. Oh snap.

The scene after the credits with Moira and Xavier completely surprised me. I should've known better; after all, these characters come from Marvel. People don't stay entirely dead.

One other thing: I wanted more Angel! Aaargh!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Despite the vast of wealth of interesting plots that have occured in the Marvel universe over the years, Hollywood somehow manages the produce something completely mediocre. Perhaps Mr. Ratner was befuddled by having actors that spoke good english or perhaps, heady with the success of the previous two movies, the powers that be realized that they could serve us shit on a silver platter and we would thank them for the honor.

To top it off, Juggernaut is not a mutant and he's not supposed to remind me of a He-Man villain.

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Well about the Juggernaut thing...like soulsteel said...it's a universe based off of the main X-Men universe, and also the writer's and director's interpetation. I mean, how come no one is up in arms because Cain is Xavier's stepbrother?

And yea...Cyc is kind of one-dimensional, but I mean....he really should have had a bigger role. His wife died, and he's in the middle of a horrible depression. They should have tried to focus more on that. One of the things these X movies have is sub-stories withing the main story. It was the same thing in X-2, and I don't see why they couldn't incorporate more depth into those sub-stories, such as the Cyc one.

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But just for the record, that battle at the Grey's house was horrible. Not in a bad way...just to see Xavier fade away like dust, man that's disturbing. They really tried to make Dark Phoenix as dark as possible. I'm curious as to when did she receive the Phoenic powers...was it during her childhood, when Magneto and Xavier met her?

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I saw the movie today. Enjoyable, but disapointing. It missed Singer and his team from the first two movies. Superman Returns better be good to make up for Singer leaving the X-Men. I admit that I don't know a lot about the Phoenix, but didn't Jean have way too much power in the movie? Was her power that high in the comics? I havn't read the Dark Phoenix saga. Anyway, if there is another X-Men movie, I hope Singer and his team come back.

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I saw the film tonight. It was actually better than I expected. One point annoyed me, something which displayed a general lack of back knowledge on the writers' part.

Spoiler:

When Kitty and Juggernaut square off in Leech's quarters, she fakes Juggernaut out by drawing him into Leech's "range", causing Juggernaut to helplessly collide with a reinforced wall. This is fucking stupid, as Cain Marko is not and never was a mutant. Any longtime fan can tell you that his power comes from the Gem of Cyttorak, a completely external source. Leech's presence should've had no effect and Kitty should have, by all rights, been a mutant pancake.

Well, the comics and the movies are not part of the same continuity at all. Otherwise Rogue would be much older, Storm would probably have an accent and we'd've had the whole Lillandra/Shi'ar Empire/M'Kraan thing for the Phoenix.

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Major disappointment.

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You don't fucking kill Professor Xavier. At least when he's played by Patrick Stewert.

Also.

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Cyclops. What the fuck. What a wasted ass character. I mean I know he sort of has the personality of a plank of wood, but he didn't need to die.

Then the aforementioned wasted Psylocke, but that's just because I have a hard-on for her. For some reason she has her Crimson Dawn powers sans the Psychic Knife, but when she uses her "shadow leaping" powers, it looks like she's some kind of Kitty Pryde rip-off. There was barely a shadow on the wall she comes out of.

There were a few good action 'moments,' like Juggs versus Wolverine, but the movie overall just felt like a waste of seven bucks. I couldn't get over how annoying Storm was, too. She just seemed forced into every scene, which would've been okay if her personality and presence were more established in the first two films. This movie just felt like a Storm overload.

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Why didn't Magneto help Xavier when he was getting raped by Phoenix? Mags just felt SO out of character right there.

At least I got to see a full trailer for Snakes on a Plane and Clerks 2. That Pulse movie (which is yet another Japanese horror remake) actually looked better than it's source material. God, the original sucked ass.

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