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[Multiplatform] The Last Remnant: Life at 12 frames a second is a beautiful thing.
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Old Nov 24, 2008, 12:49 PM Local time: Nov 24, 2008, 10:49 AM #126 of 207
At Amazon or everywhere else? It wouldn't surprise me if it dropped everywhere else, at least not with how Infinite Undiscovery turned out price wise.

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Old Nov 24, 2008, 02:24 PM Local time: Nov 24, 2008, 01:24 PM #127 of 207
Just Amazon I guess. That is pretty much the only place I buy my games now, unless somewhere else has a special deal going or something. Yeah, I guess Infinite Underscore has dropped to $30 now, hasn't that game only been out for like a month? The JRPGs must be struggling.

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Old Nov 24, 2008, 02:25 PM Local time: Nov 24, 2008, 12:25 PM #128 of 207
Game's been out since September, actually.

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Old Nov 24, 2008, 11:19 PM Local time: Nov 24, 2008, 09:19 PM #129 of 207
I've actually been really curious about the price collapse of Infinite Undiscovery over a sixty-day period, but I'm guessing bad response from the media mixed with poor sales to cause it.

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Old Nov 24, 2008, 11:31 PM Local time: Nov 24, 2008, 09:31 PM #130 of 207
Rush is officially my favorite youth hero (until he ruins it), because of "Sure thing, Dave!"

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Old Nov 26, 2008, 12:13 AM Local time: Nov 25, 2008, 10:13 PM #131 of 207
I've actually been really curious about the price collapse of Infinite Undiscovery over a sixty-day period, but I'm guessing bad response from the media mixed with poor sales to cause it.
That's exactly what happened. It's a shame with IU being such a fantastic game and all.

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Old Nov 27, 2008, 10:31 AM Local time: Nov 27, 2008, 08:31 AM #132 of 207
Some DLC has been announced for the Last Remnant, most of it being stuff on par with what was released for Lost Odyssey (ie, trinkets and an extra dungeon).

Originally Posted by Kotaku
The first two free packs, Challenge Pack 1: "Purgatory's Sins" and "The Key of Ancient Ruins" will be release on December first, with the former containing a new set of difficult guild challenges and the latter introducing a new area to explore. Then December 15th sees the release of the "March to War" set, which is the three special pre-order formations for 100 MS points. Finally, on December 22nd they release Challenge Pack 2: "The Price Of Lies", which is as free as the first one. Note that all of these dates are for gold Xbox Live Members, with silver members getting access a week later.
So, basically, it's all free stuff for those of us who preordered the game (or knew someone at the store we bought it at).

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Old Nov 29, 2008, 12:31 AM Local time: Nov 28, 2008, 09:31 PM #133 of 207
I've found I don't like Last Remnant so far. The biggest flaw by far is the randomness of your battles. Not having a command you need show up on a specific turn can be downright fatal.

Of moderate annoyance are the characters. So far I can't say I'm warming up to any of them and the lead character is the worst of all.

Then there are the minor things such as font choices. Sometimes you have to squint to read it.

I can see the potential in the game but the execution is seriously flawed.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 09:40 AM #134 of 207

I can see the potential in the game but the execution is seriously flawed.
Can you elaborate on that from your perspective. You state that the execution is seriously flawed in what way?
Honestly I'm just curious to know what flaws you see in the game, to get a better understanding

Reason I ask this is because a lot of the complaints, aside from technical issues which we all know of, is of people nitpicking at the smallest things which are apparent in other games, and yet they're fine with those issues happening in other games.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 10:01 AM Local time: Dec 1, 2008, 04:01 PM #135 of 207
I've heard a few people complaining that they don't get options to heal when their party is about to die but personally, I find that this issue is lessened if you form a union where every member has either restore spells or can use herbs, which makes the "Heal the others" option crop up a lot more, especially if you keep that unit out of deadlock. Also, playing it by ear seems to result in healing spells a lot more often than the available commands would suggest. I started out trying to make all my unions balanced in terms of combat skills, offensive magic and healing but specialising seems to work much better.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 12:03 PM Local time: Dec 1, 2008, 11:03 AM #136 of 207
I don't really have the problem of not getting the options as much as usually my guys don't get a chance to use their healing item/spell before they get killed off. That's ok though, as I've not really come into any really difficult fights yet, that weren't my own doing from linking too many bad guys together and triggering a battle.

And the graphical issues that everyone are complaining about are helped by installing the game to the hard drive. Sure, there is still slowdown during battle, but the overall performance of the engine is better. It is almost as though UE3 was not designed to run off of optical media. Oh wait.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 12:14 PM #137 of 207

And the graphical issues that everyone are complaining about are helped by installing the game to the hard drive. Sure, there is still slowdown during battle, but the overall performance of the engine is better. It is almost as though UE3 was not designed to run off of optical media. Oh wait.
Honestly though, not everyone has the ability to install to the hard drive. Some are sitting at 20gig (which was a hassle to delete things we didn't want), and those without a hard drive period (those with a mem card).

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 12:21 PM #138 of 207
A friend of mine bought this the other day and it looked okay. First of all, the first disc wasn't reading and the 360 told us to put in a DVD or game disc. I put the second disc in, the game started up with the intro and then told us to put in disc 1. We did, and it started working.

The graphics look okay and the battle system reminds me a lot of Final Fantasy X. I was definitely liking the music for it and the story seems rather interesting. Of course, she's a big fan of Johnny Yong Bosch so she was definitely happy to hear him as the main character. The voices in general were alright to me, though I think I heard a little Integra Hellsing in one of the characters.

Overall first impression, not bad. I'll wait for the price to go down a bit before I consider getting it, but what's really turning me off is the battle system. While it's original, I'm just not into the whole "choose your command for the entire party" and then switching to another party (if available). If I had to, I could probably get used to it.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 12:47 PM Local time: Dec 1, 2008, 11:47 AM #139 of 207
Honestly though, not everyone has the ability to install to the hard drive. Some are sitting at 20gig (which was a hassle to delete things we didn't want), and those without a hard drive period (those with a mem card).
I realize that. I'm just saying that if you have the option, you might want to do it.

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 12:47 PM Local time: Dec 1, 2008, 10:47 AM #140 of 207
A friend of mine bought this the other day and it looked okay. First of all, the first disc wasn't reading and the 360 told us to put in a DVD or game disc. I put the second disc in, the game started up with the intro and then told us to put in disc 1. We did, and it started working.

The graphics look okay and the battle system reminds me a lot of Final Fantasy X. I was definitely liking the music for it and the story seems rather interesting. Of course, she's a big fan of Johnny Yong Bosch so she was definitely happy to hear him as the main character. The voices in general were alright to me, though I think I heard a little Integra Hellsing in one of the characters.

Overall first impression, not bad. I'll wait for the price to go down a bit before I consider getting it, but what's really turning me off is the battle system. While it's original, I'm just not into the whole "choose your command for the entire party" and then switching to another party (if available). If I had to, I could probably get used to it.
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Old Dec 1, 2008, 02:06 PM Local time: Dec 1, 2008, 08:06 PM #141 of 207
what's really turning me off is the battle system. While it's original, I'm just not into the whole "choose your command for the entire party" and then switching to another party (if available). If I had to, I could probably get used to it.
I really don't understand why people have a problem with this. If you can get past the stupid idea that each unit is a seperate character and instead think of each union as a character in itself then you see this is hardly any different from any other rpg. Each union has a single hp and ap total so why would you think of each member as a seperate character anyway?

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Old Dec 1, 2008, 02:33 PM #142 of 207
I realize that. I'm just saying that if you have the option, you might want to do it.
Oh yea. No doubt. Only problem is just figuring out what to delete of what precious stuff you have.

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Old Dec 3, 2008, 05:38 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 03:38 PM #143 of 207
I'm surprised how well the story is turning out. It's pretty level and fun to watch. Rush is an idiot, but likable and the whole cast really carries itself well for what they are. Rush and David could very well be gay, though Emma's question with Rush was hilarious for what it would imply to a dirty mind.

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Old Dec 3, 2008, 08:49 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 06:49 PM #144 of 207
Unlikely. Those secret ones are probably story related, and about half of those are just accumulation ones, judging by the wording. The first one is probably "Have X Encounters", the third one is clearly "Hit max level", etc.
I've read that the two secret achieves involves you spending/buying shit over 100k credits. Could be wrong though.

Also progressing so slowly for now; doing quests and the like. Man, just wishing my leadership capacity increases so I can do that quest in Balterossa.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 09:00 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 03:00 PM #145 of 207
One of the secret achievements is for obtaining 200,000 gold, the other for spending 100,000. There's also the two 200 pointers but I've not looked them up yet.

Does anyone know, is there a point at which you can no longer upgrade a weapon and have to create or buy a new one? At the moment I've got Rush with a sword and shield and I've upgraded the sword twice, I think it's a Warrior's Broadsword or something now. Can I keep upgrading this over and over into a mental weapon by the end or will it max out at some point and need replacing?

On a similar note, do you reckon it's better to keep the leaders you recruit and build them up or hire more expensive ones instead?

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 11:33 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 09:33 AM #146 of 207
For those achievement faggots (colonel skills cough) good luck getting the other 2 secret ones. I've read that the two secrets each worth 200 are for true Japanese players. Beat the whole 60 hour game without reviving a dead union in battle EVER (for one of them) and also never letting Rush's union die (for the other 200 secret one). Crazy shit.

So those people like skills who only enjoy video games for the achievements will really enjoy getting those.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 11:58 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 10:58 AM #147 of 207
You of all people shouldn't be talking shit about gaming tastes or habits there, buddy. <3

An actual ACHIEVEMENT though. Man. Can't remember the last time there was one of those. Horror of horrors. Who would have GUESSED.

Honestly, I can't wait to get this. I had a shit tonne of fun with my rental.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 12:03 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 11:03 AM #148 of 207
Don't lie, you hate this game too.

I think the never revive a dead union in battle one would be ok. I mean, I have been playing for a while and don't think I even have the ability to do that yet, so I don't know any different. The other one is pretty silly though. Never going to get that one.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 12:08 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 06:08 PM #149 of 207
Yeah, I've not got a revive ability yet at battle rank 20 so that's a possible I guess. Rush not dying is silly shit though, it's way too easy to get killed in this game by being gang-raped by enemy unions while the rest of your team are deadlocked for that to be fair. Unless of course you just fight one group of enemies at a time but that'd be boring as fuck and you'd take ages to find any items. Does anyone know if the enemies scale in this? I'm guessing not as the two rare monsters I tried to fight so far (Both on the plains near where you start, a big bird thing and a big wyvern thing) both took my party apart in a matter of turns and increasing my stats up to their level was the only hope I held out for beating the fuckers.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 12:12 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 11:12 AM #150 of 207
See, everyone who's farther into the game than either of us seems to say the exact opposite. Apparently there's some really rough shit later on that pretty much necessitates the use of the revive function.

Sounds like some grind heavy bullshit if you wanna go for either of 'em in any case.

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Does anyone know if the enemies scale in this?
Yeah, some do. Regular enemies don't, but story bosses and side quest bosses do, and I am pretty sure rare monsters might. I can't confirm exactly how they scale or by what algorithm, but it seems that way at least from the 8 or 9 hours I've played.

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