New Wii info

Originally Posted by Solis

Star Wars Episode 3 as well. And any CG films are going to be natively in a high resolution format (probably higher than even HD video is).

Yup but superman was the first movie to go straight to HD digital media .

no homo

Starwars and Superman which actualyl filmed on HD film?? I hadn't heard of any movies doing that. I'll have to see if I can catch them on an HD channel then. I've never much liked superman, but I would like to see how that turned out.

Originally Posted by Merv Burger

Your ability to be nothing but pure retarded has astounded me.

May I reiterate: the only thing you've gotten right was spelling "Blu-ray" properly, and even then, you've been hit-or-miss with that.

movies aren't filmed in hd, i wonder what this "letterbox" shit is

Your an idiot. Stop trolling.

BTW, I have HD. Its awesome, but unless hollywood starts filming in HD, HD DVDs will not be a succuss. HD quality of non-HD film doesn't make that big of a difference, and certainly not a 600$ per player and 30$ per unit difference.

Yes, I sometimes mispell Blu-Ray. Perhaps thats because its name is a mispelling of 'blue', and I include the e by habit, due to it being the proper way to spell blue. Oh wow, you forgot a period and caps on your last sentence. Lets be a nit-picking-prick and complain about it.

Are you actually saying that Letterbox is HD quality? If so, then you've never seen anything filmed on actual HD film. DVD quality is not quite the same caliber as the original filming, but the film hollywood uses is nowhere near the quality of HD film.

FELIPE NO

I dont care about the whole gaming shit but you are wrong on every part on your movie bashing, I already said superman was filmed in pure HD digital media, that means no analog film, only HD, filmed in hd, planned for HD, released in HD.

no homo

I didn't see your response Zip, until I had already replied. Once I had, I eddited my post accordingly. You dont have to be a prick about it.

Superman may have been shot in HD. But this is the first time I've ever heard that. Sounds like Star Wars III was as well. Which is impressive.

I'm not bashing movies. I have no reason to. I greatly enjoy movies, and have a decent sized collection. However, fact is, an HD version of something not shot in HD makes little difference over the DVD release.

The things which I have seen shot on actual HD film is an amazing visual improvement. However, virtually nothing in hollywood is shot in HD yet.

Wikipedia lists a grand total of 13 movies total which have been shot in HD. However, its not entriely accurate, as while looking up Star Wars III, articles talked about Episode II being enhanced with HD, but not actually shot in it (as wiki lists it as). So its probably even fewer which are true HD. The mass majority of hollywood has not touched HD.

Originally Posted by Solis

Uhh, that's because films aren't in a digital format, and the analog format they're filmed in is far higher detail than "HD" formats are in.

You say that as if it counters my statement.

Originally Posted by Solis

Scaling a movie down to HD video is still going to offer a substantial improvement over scaling it down to SD video.

When looking at stills, there is a noticable improvement. However, in actual moving footage, the difference isnt that great unless its actually filmed in HD.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

% wise, that is virtually nothing. And that list isnt entirely accurate, as I know Episode II was HD enhanced, not true HD.

I was only interested in seeing 4 of those movies, and chose not to purchase any of them after viewing. Thats a pretty insignificant number in my opinion. We'll have to wait and see. Even if I was interested in all of those movies... 13 movies, at HD encanced quality or actual HD quality, is still pretty insignificant.

Oh, btw, this is the Wii topic.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Laserdisc was going to be the upgrade too. That didn't work out so well.

To purchase a player at 600$+ for a grand total of 13 (sort of) movies... is idiotic. Technology always comes down in price. Anyone in their right mind would wait for the price to come down while watching if its gaining support still or losing support.

Between Blu-ray and HD, yes Blu-ray will probably do better. Personally, i think they are both going to tank. I think it'll follow Sony's 'amazing' umds.

You sure you know which thread this is? Alot of you sure seem to get confused sometimes.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Hey, have you guys caught wind of this yet? Looks like Twilight Princess will be nothing short of utterly massive (or at least Hyrule or whatever that land is called now).

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The single greatest videogame of all time? Did we oversell it a bit? Really, we may not be kidding. At the very least, Twilight Princess is sure to be the best launch game in the history of launch games, but we're willing to bet it'll go down as much more than that. The title is the result of a massive effort by the proven Zelda team at Nintendo, which has in the past created some of today's most fondly remembered titles, from Ocarina of Time to Wind Waker. Twilight Princess will not only be bigger - a horse ride from one side of Hyrule to the next is rumored to take 45 real minutes - but much more ambitious than ever before. Link turns into a wolf, crossed into a dark dimension, goes fishing, and rides his way into more dungeons than ever - and he's just getting started. Truth be told, we've glimpsed scenarios that have made our jaws drop and Nintendo itself has indicated that we haven't seen anything yet. The final product is going to be nothing short of epic and with both a Wii-exclusive 16:9 mode and new Wii-mote-enhanced controls - the ability to shoot arrows and slash the sword - the game is on track to become an instant classic when it launches with Wii.

Hopefully it's not like the great ocean, largely empty expanses of sea with unappealing rock islands and platforms. If it's chock full of stuff/distractions/secrets along the way it'll make the scale worth it. That and if Nintendo avoids making fetch quests that force you to cross the entire game area.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

For someone who wants to keep on topic, you sure make a habit of replying to off topic material.

I know, it makes me sad. What am I supose to do, I guess I could ignore them, but thats kinda hard.

Luckily metal sphere posted something Wii related.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Hey, have you guys caught wind of this yet? Looks like Twilight Princess will be nothing short of utterly massive (or at least Hyrule or whatever that land is called now).



Hopefully it's not like the great ocean, largely empty expanses of sea with unappealing rock islands and platforms. If it's chock full of stuff/distractions/secrets along the way it'll make the scale worth it. That and if Nintendo avoids making fetch quests that force you to cross the entire game area.

I certainly would hope for the same. Assuming it is, that sounds amazing!

I got stuck in Windwaker at the "Go collect all the triforce crap" part. Got stuck in Metroid with the artifact too. Collecting crap always makes me apathetic. I'd hope they avoid sending you to amass a large collection of items as well, although I'd still play it.

I just keep getting more and more tempted to preorder a Wii...

I was speaking idiomatically.

Oops, I forgot to post a link to the article:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/730/730221p6.html

A ton of folks gave up on the game at the Tri-Force fetch quest simply because it was nothing more than a means to artificially extend the game's length, and a blatant one at that. Hopefully this turns out better than that, given the amount of time it's been worked on.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

There should probably be a thread split around here, but I'll go off an on topic.

First of all comparing Blu-Ray to laser disk is a terrible comparison. Laser disk was a combination of too expensive and ahead of its time. Blue Ray is proportianally less expensive and right on time. The catch with laser disks is that all of the improvements went over most peoples heads. Home theatre systems aren't what they are now, and the technological consciousness was much lower.

Blu-ray or HD-DVD (my money's on Blu-ray) WILL BE successful if for no other reason than the fact that technology matches the televisions. (I forget what year) but it will be government mandated that all broadcasts be in HD. HD television sets and monitors are flying off of the shelves. Just like system sales attract third party game developers the fact that an HD set in a high percentage of homes is inevitable tells movie companies that they need to shoot their shit in HD. High definition is much more important to the consumer now than laser disk was back when. Finally when a person goes out and spends a good chunk of money on a TV its much easier to rationalize getting a player to take advantage of their set than just going out and buying a new format for somehting that's been in their house for 15+ years


Now about the Wii and Twilight Princess

Staying on the subject of HD what resolutions is the Wii going to output in? I heard Nintendo was content with capping it at 480p.

Lastly I'm curious on how Twilight Princess widescreen will compare to the original. Is it like movies where the widescreen version will actually be beneficial allowing you to see more of what's going on?

Next the is the $200 price everyone keeps throwing around a rumor or was that confirmed? Lastly what's a good source for confirmed Wii info? I've seen some craptacular sites that mix fact with fiction. I'd like a rundown of what's actually true at this point in time.

FELIPE NO

So what, it's GTA in a Zelda world, fishing makes it the greatest game EVAH.
lol.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Hotobu

There should probably be a thread split around here, but I'll go off an on topic.

No need, the thread was simply derailed. And it looks like the discussion's over too.

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Staying on the subject of HD what resolutions is the Wii going to output in? I heard Nintendo was content with capping it at 480p.

Nintendo hasn't said anything about caps, but they have made it clear that they disapprove of the HD-era plan of other other two. So they're basically going to go as high as NTSC will let them.

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Lastly I'm curious on how Twilight Princess widescreen will compare to the original. Is it like movies where the widescreen version will actually be beneficial allowing you to see more of what's going on?

The bold part is what actual widescreen modes are supposed to allow. In other words, proper widescreen, the way it should be. Hopefully it turns out this way and not cropped like in many PS2 games.

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Next the is the $200 price everyone keeps throwing around a rumor or was that confirmed? Lastly what's a good source for confirmed Wii info? I've seen some craptacular sites that mix fact with fiction. I'd like a rundown of what's actually true at this point in time.

Numerous statements coming out of Nintendo itself, and constant rumors of production costs way lower than anticipated. With that $170-175 range we've been given, it's not hard to assume that the price will be ~$250. Any more without extras, like Wii sports or a nunchaku/legacy controller will be too much.

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Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Hey, have you guys caught wind of this yet? Looks like Twilight Princess will be nothing short of utterly massive (or at least Hyrule or whatever that land is called now).



Hopefully it's not like the great ocean, largely empty expanses of sea with unappealing rock islands and platforms. If it's chock full of stuff/distractions/secrets along the way it'll make the scale worth it. That and if Nintendo avoids making fetch quests that force you to cross the entire game area.

I like what I'm hearing. I've never actually completed a single Zelda game, but I think this one is going to be the first one. If it turns out amazing, I might consider revisiting past Zelda adventures, like the GBA and if any DS adventures roll around the corner. Sounds amazing right now.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Wow, well I'll give you a few titles to try out if this does interest you enough to pick it up:

- Link's Awakening
- Link to the Past
- Ocarina of Time
- The Minish Cap

Most, if not all of them, start with "The Legend of Zelda".

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Ugh, I sure as hell hope that Zelda got something interesting to fill those 45 minutes with, else it's going to be GTA: SA all over again. The whole "Look at how large this place is, aren't we great" thing about the game made me quit it.
But then again, this is Zelda, and Zelda is quite fun. (Though I would never buy the Wii version...)

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Originally Posted by Kilroy

(Though I would never buy the Wii version...)

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You'll be able to play it with the wiimote or the gamecube controller I believe.

GC version also wont have the widescreen option.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by avanent

You'll be able to play it with the wiimote or the gamecube controller I believe.

I think it was confirmed that the Wii version would have Wii controller-only controls without an option for using a Gamecube controller.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Solis

I think it was confirmed that the Wii version would have Wii controller-only controls without an option for using a Gamecube controller.

Are you serious? Thats a bad idea :/

The programmings already there, just leave it in and let people choose

FELIPE NO

You're all almost definitely reading into the 45 minutes thing incorrectly.

Just because the game world will be almost as big as an Xbox doesn't mean you'll have to run around it every 30 seconds. I'm sure Ocarina songs will be a huge part of getting around to places you've already been to.

However, a world this big does have some pretty nifty possibilities. You couldn't really have epic battles on horseback in Ocarina of Time, could you? Shit, walking around in Termina Field in Majora's Mask was downright cramped. I'm hoping the world is rigorously detailed throughout, and not just big open plains all over the place (although I'm sure there will be at least one big wide-open plains area), however the fetch quest thing probably isn't going to be made into a problem if they're making the world this big.

I wonder how many dungeons there will be, personally. I'm sick of these new Zelda games having like 2 levels and then making me look for 84 heart pieces. Fuck that shit.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Hotobu

Blu-ray or HD-DVD (my money's on Blu-ray) WILL BE successful if for no other reason than the fact that technology matches the televisions. (I forget what year) but it will be government mandated that all broadcasts be in HD.

WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG MOTHER FUCKING WRONG.

The government mandate is for DIGITAL BROADCASTS. DIGITAL BROADCASTS IS NOT HD. HD REQUIRES A DIGITAL BROADCAST, BUT DIGITAL BROADCASTS CAN ALSO OUTPUT SD SIGNALS.

Jesus. I get so freaking tired of people spouting this utter bullshit.

Now then. About Zelda:

I'm really excited about the scale of the world. Considering that they're NOT trying to rush it like they did Wind Waker, I have almost no doubt that it won't have the same problems WW did.

And it also helps that my sister and brother-in-law are buying my Wii for me when it comes out in return for dog-sitting on them while they go to China for 3 weeks.

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The idea of a giant Hyrule makes me think of some form of Shadow of the Colossus-esque battle being in the cards. Imagine Ganon's final form being a giant colossus? I'd probably crap.

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Originally Posted by BurningRanger

You're all almost definitely reading into the 45 minutes thing incorrectly.

Just because the game world will be almost as big as an Xbox doesn't mean you'll have to run around it every 30 seconds. I'm sure Ocarina songs will be a huge part of getting around to places you've already been to.

However, a world this big does have some pretty nifty possibilities. You couldn't really have epic battles on horseback in Ocarina of Time, could you? Shit, walking around in Termina Field in Majora's Mask was downright cramped. I'm hoping the world is rigorously detailed throughout, and not just big open plains all over the place (although I'm sure there will be at least one big wide-open plains area), however the fetch quest thing probably isn't going to be made into a problem if they're making the world this big.

That's a good point, actually. I hope the game doesn't expect you to walk ALL the way to the other side of the map to do something and then walk all the way back over just to realize you forgot something. And thus, having the Ocarina songs would make life soooo much easier. But yeah, horseback riding needs large stretches of wide open plains anyway, so this should be NOTHING like GTA.....hopefully.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I hope it is something like GTA, Rockstar took care of the huge distances quite well, and if nintendo looks at how they did it (which im 100% sure they are), we get a better game.
Teleportations, horses and flying (maybe on a bird or something) are all good options. Having options to do instead of going from dungeon A to dungeon B is only good.

no homo

Originally Posted by sprouticus

The idea of a giant Hyrule makes me think of some form of Shadow of the Colossus-esque battle being in the cards. Imagine Ganon's final form being a giant colossus? I'd probably crap.

I'd eat that crap if it meant it would become true.

Hmmm... speaking of flying around the overworld, what if Link could find some phoenix bird to fly around on, flaming wings and shit included, to fight this huge final boss by swooping in and slashing like crazy?

Just a thought. :biggrin:

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Ditto what everyone has suggested. Ocarina songs or whatever will probably take the chore of 45 minute travelling away.

Three different Nintendo events planned for the three major territories: 14th Sept in Japan and America. then 15th of Sept in Europe. Will this finally be the day where a Revolution starts THAT IS WII? Release dates? Prices? Anymore secrets? Online plans? GAME FOOOTAGES LIKE WHHHUT!

Hype it up hype it up.

How ya doing, buddy?