The Hip Hop/Rap Thread

They're morons if they favor arrangements over OSTs because those arrangements are all instrumental rap that plagiarizes the OSTs just so some moron can live a delusion that he beat a composer with a 'better' version of something they already composed. Valkyrie Profile Arranged is a perfect example of one-beat rap arrangements of VGM.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

So um... You were a victim of VGM plagiarism, I take it?

I'm sorry, son. We don't have a support group for that here.

FELIPE NO

No, those VGM plagiarists are just future fodder for Square-Enix's wanzer brigades. Yes, they're real, but you have to work with the right people to pilot those things. After all, all Front Mission games are just people recording other people's adventures in a wanzer squadron. I just got done with Front Mission 5 a year and a half ago and we had to make Len Wenright beat herself since she was survival horror plagiarism.

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What part of "no support group for that here" don't you understand?

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The part that says there's no support group for rap-heads who eat plagiarism. Looks like Square-Enix has some Dhoulmagus wannabes that think their is strength in numbers when one single japanese fuchi koma could wipe out their anti-support groups so swiftly they tried to make up for getting dissassocia but couldn't because they were to busy debating their ids.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

But in what way is VGM the end all, be all of music for you? Do you not realize how CLOSE-MINDED that is?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

Instrumental rap is not oxymoronic because all it takes to make something rap is that its time signature is one beat and it uses timbre. Silent Hill and Resident Evil and Galerians are all instrumental rap because they focus on using sounds of other peoples' dissassocia in their anti-music to make up for their lack in compositional integrity. Most likely though, since every one in rap loves dissassocia it's safe to say you most likely have that disorder because nearly every one in the rap community has already denounced God and questioned his one true religion while they weren't in their studios and turned what was once great objective standards about composing into relatavistic squalor.

Rap: to rhythmically deliver rhyming lyrics.

Instrumental: a piece of (usually nonclassical) music performed solely by instruments, with no vocals.


Looks like my friend the Oxford Dictionary says your wrong.

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Omega Weapon, what in the world are you basing your judgments on?

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Originally Posted by knkwzrd

Rap: to rhythmically deliver rhyming lyrics.

Instrumental: a piece of (usually nonclassical) music performed solely by instruments, with no vocals.


Looks like my friend the Oxford Dictionary says your wrong.

Its more like Hip Hop, or instrumental Hip Hop than Rap. Rap is more about the vocals.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It's not closed minded when everything else has timbre. My VGM has every genre available, so where is there a lack of the genre crossing boundaries that you speak of. Star Ocean 3's "Bitter Dance" alone should break those barriers when every other rapper is merely just testing the number of permutations they can rap about losing their intelligences on other people, hence their dissassocia. In other words, before you whine about my 'closed-mindedness' you had better do a significant VGM research outside of the typical mario and ddr every modern moron has been associated with.

"OMG, I don't like VGM since I don't like the ghost house themes in mario!"

That's exactly how you all sound when Shadow Hearts's two-beat drop music beats anything you could come up with. In essence, if you don't like Shadow Hearts, then you're really the closed minded ones.

And finally, the Oxford dictionary doesn't know everything about music. Anyone studying music theory knows what an instrumental rap is and it sounds just like something out of Silent Hill and Resident Evil.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

...if you don't like Shadow Hearts, then you're really the closed minded ones.

OK... Let's see if we can figure something out here. You have sat there typing out fallacy after fallacy and when I called you closed-minded, the best retort you could come up with was a sentence that pretty much corroborated that?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Omega Weapon, why are you comparing VGM to hip hop and rap? That's like trying to compare it to classical. It just isn't going to work.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well, it's not such an EXTREME degree of comparison. My complaint isn't coming from the angle that it's an invalid comparison. My complaint is that the angle only plays from that angle relentlessly and is downright narrow-minded.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

There's plenty of hip hop VGM out there Lady Miyomi. Metroid Prime is hip hop, King of Fighters: Maximum Impact is hip hop, and then the Capcom vs. SNK and SNK vs. Capcom soundtracks are all hip hop. Sega also has plrenty of hip hop in its Sonic Adventure 2 games. So it does to work out. The only difference between it and the timbre anti-music of the mainstream area is that it has much better instrumentation, sound quality, and compositions and is less vocal.

And no Encephalon, I'm not closed minded musically because you don't know the difference between the white noise of mainstream anti-music with timbre in it and the real music of VGM and the classical and new age composers who've already destroyed the competition aesthetically. Have fun debating your id, Encephalon.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Enceph ~ I agree with you.

Omega Weapon ~ I agree that there's plenty of hip hop VGM. However, the fact that you're using that to knock the original stuff is coming off as a bit arrogant.

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Encephalon doesn't know the difference between mainstream music and classical? Wait, which one of you said DMX was a master of composition?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Encephalon

My complaint is that the angle only plays from that angle relentlessly and is downright narrow-minded.

However, he's got a valid point there.

How ya doing, buddy?

So you designed the soundtracks to kingdom hearts, Capcom vs SNK, etc. I call bullshit. Anyways, it is nothing but a hassle arguing with dis-illusioned square/enix fanboys like yourself.

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Slap him up and shake him up and then you know
Let him off the flo' then bait him with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco y'know how this

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Slap him up, indeed. In addition to doing all this soundtrack work, check this out:

Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

I've written many RPGs for game companies. Most of them were at least 200 pages long, and with my most recent works just being finished I have a 700 page story and a 2500 page story (with one insanely long chapter at the Delta Prime sector of the universe). Not only that, I've written many battle systems to RPGs I've written and now I have my friends in the game design industry adding their portions into the source code after lengthening the source code limit to much more than 63000. They've also used graphic application programs to create the visuals over the text based executable. But, after seeing how Dragon Warrior 8 turned out I imagine most of my newer RPGs are going to have lots of text during the battles now. I've also written and programmed Shadow Hearts and Tsuganai, to name a couple of the games I've written that have been recently released.

2500 pages of writing this bad? He reeks of bullshit.


Anyhow, back to rap music. Has anyone gave a listen to The Coup's new album yet? Any good?

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I've been digging it lately, it isn't as good as Genocide & Juice or Steal this album, but it is as good as Party Music which is a fine album, so it is definetely worth the price of purchase, but then again im a fanboy when it comes to the Coup and any Bay Area artist.

they are also on a massive tour right now and they are always great live, so check them out if you get the chance.

here is a list

05/28/2006 - Sun - Boise, ID
Neurolux
05/30/2006 - Tue - Missoula, MT
The Other Side
05/31/2006 - Wed - Bozeman, MT
Zebra
06/01/2006 - Thu - Fargo, ND
The Aquarian
06/02/2006 - Fri - Minneapolis, MN
Triple Rock
06/03/2006 - Sat - Chicago, IL
The Abbey
06/04/2006 - Sun - Lansing, MI
Temple Club
06/05/2006 - Mon - Cleveland Heights, OH
Grog Shop
06/06/2006 - Tue - Buffalo, NY
Buffalo Icon
06/07/2006 - Wed - Boston, MA
The Paradise
06/08/2006 - Thu - New York, NY
The Bowery Ballroom
06/09/2006 - Fri - Brooklyn, NY
South Paw
06/11/2006 - Sun - Baltimore, MD
Otto Bar
06/12/2006 - Mon - Washington, D.C.
Black Cat
06/13/2006 - Tue - Asheville, NC
Stella Blue
06/14/2006 - Wed - Charlotteville, VA
Satellite Ballroom
06/15/2006 - Thu - Chapel Hill, NC
Local 506
06/16/2006 - Fri - Atlanta, GA
The Earl
06/17/2006 - Sat - New Orleans, LA
House of Blues
06/20/2006 - Tue - Houston, TX
Warehouse Live
06/21/2006 - Wed - Denton, TX
Haileys
06/22/2006 - Thu - Austin, TX
Emos
06/24/2006 - Sat - Tempe, AZ
Marquee Theater
06/25/2006 - Sun - San Diego, CA
House of Blues
06/27/2006 - Tue - Hollywood, CA
The Avalon
06/28/2006 - Wed - Anaheim, CA
House of Blues
06/29/2006 - Thu - Santa Cruz, CA
The Catalyst
07/01/2006 - Sat - Salt Lake City, UT
Egos
07/02/2006 - Sun - Durango, CO
Abbey Theater
07/03/2006 - Mon - Denver, CO
Quixotes
07/06/2006 - Thu - Lake Buena Vista, FL
House of Blues
07/07/2006 - Fri - Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Revolution
07/08/2006 - Sat - St. Petersburg, FL.
Jannus Landing
07/09/2006 - Sun - Tallahassee, FL
Beta Bar
07/11/2006 - Tue - Myrtle Beach, SC
House of Blues
07/14/2006 - Fri - Northampton, MA
Pearl Street
07/16/2006 - Sun - New Haven, CT
Bar Night Club
07/18/2006 - Tue - Providence, RI
Lupos Heartbreak Hotel
07/19/2006 - Wed - Portland, ME
Space Gallery
07/20/2006 - Thu - Burlington, VT
Higher Ground
07/23/2006 - Sun - Milwaukee, WI
Stonefly Brewery
08/12/2006 - Sat - San Francisco, CA
The Independent

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Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

...I'm not closed minded musically because you don't know the difference between the white noise of mainstream anti-music with timbre in it and the real music of VGM and the classical and new age composers who've already destroyed the competition aesthetically. Have fun debating your id, Encephalon.

I haven't seen this much hot air since The Alabama Jubilee.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Figures. A 42 date tour and the closest stop is an eight hour drive.

Enceph, I wouldn't go so far as to soil the good name of the Hot Air Balloon Classic with this jackass.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I saw Dave Chappelles Block party and it reminded me why i like hip-hop, especially one song, Mos def feat Talib Kweli - Definition. None of that silly "gangsta" thing, just keeping it real and pure rhymes.
Thank you Chappelle.

no homo

OK...I'm confused....WTF are we talking about here now? VGM HipHop is better than HipHop? I mean I went back and read how this started but what is the point you're trying to make exaclty?

Also aren't artist like FatJon and DJ Shadow considered instrumental HipHop?

On another note...

I just got all the Samurai Champloo sountracks finaly....Yes I'm kinda late on that but whatever....Best fucking hiphop I've heard in a while. The damn beats are sick!

Also I'm loving this Narls Barley album. It's just something different to listen to but refreshing.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Oh, Gnarls Barkley. Gotta remind myself to check
that out, as well as MF Doom and other Danger
Mouse stuff. Related note: only just bought GZA's
Beneath the Surface. Dunno what took me so long;
I completely like what I hear.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?