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Let's see. From what I've read, annoucement time for us here in the States will be at 10 PM EST so later tonight we'll see if Sony is delaying the PS3 or not. I just want some good news. Make my day Sony, dammit!
Now wait. I was wrong on the time. That's 10 PM PST. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Last edited by kainlightwind; Mar 14, 2006 at 05:28 PM.
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Unless America gets it before Japan.
We'll find out in a few hours. Maybe. FELIPE NO |
Che (formerly of 1up) says he's heard they might be doing an October US release, November JP release. Doesn't seem too likely, especially considering Sony's past stances, but it's possible I suppose. Realisitically everyone knew the PS3 was not going to make Japan in Spring. Feasibly they have two options:
1)Fall 06 Japan release, Spring 07 US release 2)Worldwide or close to worldwide launch Fall 06 1 seems like a more logical option, but you'd have to consider if that happens, the 360 will get a second holiday season in sales (and it'll be much more available than it was this past season), AND the Revolution is supposed to be coming out in the US "by Thanksgiving," at least at the moment. The Revolution will probably not be too hard to supply given it's parts. Also the Rev looks like it'll be shipping at a fairly low price ($249?), and the 360 will probably have also had a price cut by then. I doubt it'll happen, but if MS could get Halo 3 out and a 360 price drop BEFORE the PS3 launches in the US.....holy fuck. Alternatively 2 seems feasible, but that kind of launch is going to have severe shortages, faaaaaaaaar more so than the 360 launch considering it's going to be in extremely high demand in Japan and the US, and parents will probably wind up buying one of the other two consoles if they can't find a 360. Either way, this isn't the end of the world for Sony, but they can not be happy about this. I don't think anyone seriously anticipates MS or Nintendo actually taking over Sony as #1, but either scenario is definetely going to hurt their marketshare. Another wildcard is the Revolution. I don't think anyone here really follows Japanese sales, but DS sales in Japan are motherfucking insane. On any given week, 6-9 titles in the top 10 sellers in Japan are DS titles, and a friend pointed out that one week last month, all the combined DS software sales for that one week beat out lifetime to date sales for all software on PSP. Obviously it's much more even in the US, but Sony also has to factor in that Nintendo's building up a huge hype machine for the Rev given how insanely popular the DS is in Japan right now, and it's attracting a lot of non-gamers that will probably be interested in the Rev. I think this will actually cause Sony to go with option 1. I think Sony would rather try to more effectively cut off Rev sales in Japan and take a hit from 360 and Rev holiday sales in the US, than do a weak US/JP launch and probably wind up taking a hit either way due to supplies. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Sony definitely doesn't want a shortage of consoles, especially if it's rushed. Look at the 360 and all the reports of broken systems. Imagine if Sony did the same thing? Half of the systems would be garbage by their quality standards.
I say they take their time. I'm in no rush to get a PS3, and I'm sure most people would rather have a quality system with plenty of them to go around than a rushed system with a small supply. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
I agree, but Sony can't be happy either way.
Edit: Found it, wrong on the source though:
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Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 14, 2006 at 08:03 PM.
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Yikes... It's pretty much lose/lose for Sony at this point. Lets just hope they don't jack the price of the damn system through the roof as rumored.
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Edit: Another from Bloomberg:
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Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 14, 2006 at 08:12 PM.
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I would have to tip my hat if they revealed that it's actually coming in the spring, and all of this crap was just a hoax.
But I'm not betting on that. I was speaking idiomatically. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
It will be some time before any great games come out for the 360. (I am aware some people would argue that current games are fine but I do not agree, sorry.) Does it really matter if either console comes out awile longer?
I would hope for most people they buy a console to play the games they're interested in. To me, the 360 has no games currently that warrant the purchase of the console. Sure, in some time from now it will but right now? No. The PS2 is still popular and still has some new games being pumped out for it. Even if the PS3 is delayed I think Sony can handle it. They still have the PS2 going strong with many new games coming out. I dont know about any of you but I'm just fine with my current gen consoles and buying games for those. If they need the time to get the PS3 out right then give them the time. I dont think it really matters anyways. No one who wanted to get the PS3 is suddenly going to just go and buy a 360 unless there are games for it they want. Well, that is if people still buy consoles for the games and are not 'tards that buy expensive hardware to be 'cool'. FELIPE NO |
It's all relative anyway since Sony will likely remain on top this gen, but Sony loses some marketshare here either way they go honestly, it's a question of how much.
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Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 14, 2006 at 08:42 PM.
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Jam it back in, in the dark. |
From the PS3 Conference
PS3 News -Price will "not be less than 50,000 yen." (Approx $427 US). -WORLDWIDE (US/CAN/JP/ASIA/EU) November Launch. Sony promises to produce "up to" 1 million units per month leading up to launch, will have "6 million" units available by year end. Production will outpace both PS1 and PS2 levels. EDIT: Gamespot reports 6 million units by Fiscal year end in March 2007, not calendar year ending December 06. Which now makes this kinda've crappy in my opinion. -"As part of the PlayStation Business Brief today in Tokyo, Ken Kutaragi confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will require the hard drive peripheral. In total, it will be 60GB big, be completely upgradeable, and support Linux OS. Additionally, the peripheral will act as a home server and allow users to store various forms of media to be pulled up elsewhere." It is still uncertain if the HDD will actually ship standard with the system, although right now it's looking like yes. -PS3 will be 100% backwards compatible, and all legacy titles (We have no clue what that means) will be displayed in High-Def resolutions (a la 360). -Basic online service will be free and available at launch. (Similar to Xbox Silver?) -Developers will have final devkits in June, specs finalized today. -Will support HDMI from launch. -All games will be BD format to avoid piracy. -Insane Kutaragi Quotes (Seriously, WTF?) "This is the greatest day in the history of our great industry." "The Cell will be able to realize a 4-dimensional world. Let's chase this dream together." WHAT THE FUCK YOU KOOK? PSP news -US will get PSP Core Pack around the end of March at $199 (does not include Headphones, case, etc). -PSP userbase is 96% male, Sony considers that a problem and wants to address it. -Starting this fall, the PSP will use RSS channel features. Video and voice-over-IP will release in October in "motion jpg" format. The PSP's own version of the EyeToy will launch a month earlier in September and the peripheral will feature EyeToy Play and video chat. The camera is sliver and it attaches to the USB port. -The PSP will also include a GPS receiver with an update rate of once every second with a 40-second fix time from a cold start. Minna no Golf (Hot Shots Golf) will be a GPS launch title. -Macromedia Flash will be included with a spring Network update. -There will be an offical 1st Gen PS1 emulator, you will be able to buy and download games online to PSP. PS2 News -No price drop, basically the system continues to dominate. There's nowhere I can't reach.
Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 15, 2006 at 03:35 AM.
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Sweet. Let's hope that a "worldwide launch" includes europe, australia & nz because they're so easily forgotten about.
Also wow, GPS for PSP? That's nuts. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I take that all with a grain of salt since "worldwide launch" is coming from the company that was swearing up and down 3 weeks ago "spring." If, IF they can actually produce these quantities, supply will still not nearly meet demand, but it'll be respectable enough, much much better than the 360s launch. I hope so, but I'll believe it when I see it. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Sweet, the hard drive will be standard. Developers having access to use it as a game data cache storage should allow for a much better game experience. Hopefully we won't see the mess that Oblivion turned out to be on the X-Box 360 with the game engine pausing often as it struggles to load data off of the DVD fast enough.
Also Kutaragi is Krazy as ever. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
What's odd is he stated that the HDD would be required, but didn't specifically mention that it would be INCLUDED. Logically it would have to be if it's required, but that's still odd. And yeah, the man is fucking insane.
I appear to be the only person on the internets not impressed with the PS 1 emulator (I need a huge stick to hold a couple games I already own that I get to pay for again? Not counting resolution issues, and few PS1 games have a save anywhere feature necessary for playing on the go), but other than that good news all around, I'm impressed. Edit: Press spec sheet indicates HD is detachable, and appears to indicate the HD is NOT included with the system, but not confirmed for sure. But supposedly it's "required," so I'm guess maybe it's required for online games or something like that? Press release specifically states "デタッチャブル 2.5” HDD slot x 1", which is "Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x1," and the press release makes absolutely no mention of the HDD being included or standard, which I'm sure it would if it was. FELIPE NO
Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 15, 2006 at 03:12 AM.
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Found the full press release. It's a full spec sheet, I can't imagine it not stating the HDD being included if it was:
http://www.playstation.jp/news/2005/pr_050517_ps3.html Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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Mounted in this sense would be better translated as the HDD with Linux installed will be included. It's not saying something like 'there will be a HDD which would include the Linux OS already mounted on the drive.' I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
On the spec sheet itself it says "デタッチャブル 2.5” HDD slot x 1" デタッチャブル is detachable. I can see them as meaning you can mount a detachable drive (say take it to a friend's house). The other reason I'm thinking it's not going to be included is you're looking at a system that has a high-speed GPU, a new Blue laser drive, wi-fi hardware, half a gig of high speed memory, etc etc, AND a 60G HDD for a $400-450 range? That's insanity. Regardless, within the day once we get some kind of US/English press release it'll probably clear it up one way or the other.
Edit: I'm seeing a Sony rep at another board say the HDD will not be standard, but God knows where he is on the information chain. Here's (apparently) the english press release, wonderfully unhelpful:
I was speaking idiomatically.
Last edited by SailorDaravon; Mar 15, 2006 at 03:30 AM.
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I wouldn't use cost to rule out it being included though. A standard 7200 RPM 60GB HDD costs about ten bucks to manufacture these days. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |