[DS] How do you get 3,000 pikachus on a bus? POKEMON!

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

I'm popping in here kinda late, but Corocoro mentioned last month that Nintendo would reveal the third 4th generation pokemon game come May. Lo and behold, scans are already out on it and apparently Nintendo will deliver the goods come May 16th.

Edit: Whoops, forgot to mention that the name of the game is Pokemon Platinum.

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Thanks a lot, I never new it was announced. I was even beginning to doubt one coming anytime soon.

Also, how common is it to find a mew that doesn't have a crappy IV, aka not hacked? I've always wanted to train one from the start, and I'll try and use this game as that opportunity. I've also concluded that at least half of my team, most likely all of my team will be of the original 151. I may get one new one if I think it looks nice.
But yeah, rarity of decent IV Mews? And value of them?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well, when people trade Mews, it's usually out of an interesting in collecting it as a legendary. I imagine the rate of high-IV Mews out there is higher than for other pokemon, just because more Mews are hacked into the games (and hackers usually give pokemon high IVs).

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Oh. For some reason, based on a previous post about alternate colored pokemon having IVs of ten, thought that applied for all hacked Pokemon. And obtaining a Mew with a hackingly high IV would be looked down upon. Bleh, maybe I'll find someone who has a fair Mew up for trade. Or donation. Probably donation.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Remember that shiny pokemon do not have IVs of 10. That's completely false.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

We had a system in which teams were posted beforehand, including movesets. This was so that nothing illegal was used. But you were allowed to list up to nine; nobody quite knew which ones you'd be taking into battle; forming counterstrategies against particular players was more difficult.

They'd still form a strategy against me fairly easy when they see the majority of my choices are Poison Pokemon.

How'd you guys do a tournament? Over Wifi?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie

They'd still form a strategy against me fairly easy when they see the majority of my choices are Poison Pokemon.

How'd you guys do a tournament? Over Wifi?

Well it would be best to use pokemon of various types, then. My main weakness was using the ever common dual dragon types. A third of my team was made of them. It was safe to say most players can guess what's most effective against me. O bias u .

As for how one can do a tournament? Here in gamingforce it'd have to be done through wifi. Anyway, now that finals is pretty much out of the way I suppose I can push for a more "casual" tournament. I'll create a thread with a rules set some time tomorrow. I'm just way too trashed to do anything right now.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie

They'd still form a strategy against me fairly easy when they see the majority of my choices are Poison Pokemon.

How'd you guys do a tournament? Over Wifi?

Funny you should mention that. I'd been thinking that if we do another tournament, it would be awesome if everyone worked with some sort of theme. Certainly type-specific teams, such as all-Poison, could work. Or people could find their own theme, so long as it was broad enough and each Pokemon featured it in some way.

It'd be cool since some people might indeed have an innate advantage over you, but you might have the total edge on someone else. Steel teams would rip you apart, but Grass teams couldn't do a whole lot. It could be interesting.

And yes, it was all over wi-fi. There's really no other practical method available.

FELIPE NO

Oh? I like the single type (or pokemon) theme. It could give us a reason not to include the usual crazy strong pokemon we're all used to seeing. Ah, well I'll sleep on it.

(And Crash, don't let me stop you from taking charge of this tournament. I really don't mind!)

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie

They'd still form a strategy against me fairly easy when they see the majority of my choices are Poison Pokemon.

That never really stopped me from entering with a team consisting of Flying-types. Almost everyone had an answer to my team, but it was fun trying to act as a psuedo Gym Leader in some of the rounds. Nothing was at risk anyway.

I suppose I could mention I took third, but, uh, most of the leading players dropped at that point.

Also, regarding WiFi, I'm guessing it wouldn't be somehow against the rules to compete over Pokemon Battle Revolution if both players had a copy. I almost completely forgot about it, and I'd like to try it out again if possible.

EDIT: I'd be interested in a single-type tourney. I already have the team prepared.

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I completely forgot about that game's feature. Good thing I didn't sell it off =D
If Pokemon Battle Revolution has any redeeming qualities I should also mention it is a bit more stable for online battles. At least it is to me!

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A tournament would be really fun. But I don't have wifi and I still have alot of work towards building up the Pokemon I want to use(Playing through Firered to get stuff to transfer over). But since my 360 is broke, I've been playing it alot lately. My poison team however... has counters for most types, at least against the incompetent AI.

Gengar (If he goes first, so long Psychic. Also immune to ground)
Tentacruel (Bye bye Rock/Ground)
Arbok (Earthquake, kills other poisons easy)
Weezing (Flamethrower and immune to ground)
Nidoking
Beedrill, Crobat, or Muk for the last spot

The non poisons I tend to use are Alakhazam, Persian, or Snorlax.

3 of my choices are inspired by Team Rocket from earlier in the anime. And I'm aware Beedrill sucks, but I like Beedrill.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I say if we do a single-type tourney, definitely go for a less popular type like Poison or Fire. If it's something like Dragon or Water, it'll be filled with a lot of the usual suspects (sup, Salamence and Marshtomp).

Ohhh, or we could take those popular typings and spice it up a bit by requiring that the pokemon fall into a specified tier. Like "UU Water" or something. That'd be very nice, too!

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

At least you're aware that Beedrill sucks royal ass.

I do think a single-type tourney would be pretty rad, as long as everyone avoided using the same types.

I don't know if I'd be the best person to organize such a thing, especially since I plan on attending the GFF NE Meet in a week's time. I'd rather just participate right now, thanks.

I think the only caveats for tourney play would be the usual: No Ubers, no Wobbuffet, and Sleep Clause. Otherwise, I'm okay with people using popular Pokemon. They're popular for a reason - they work.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, everyone having a unique type would be okay if the types were kept secret and everyone was locked in with their type at the beginning of the tournament. Otherwise finding out what typing you're facing next could spell disaster in a Fire versus Water match or the like.

We'd also need to consider removing certain types out of fairness. Dragon should be banned (even if Flygon and Altaria suck), and Steel might need to be because of its awkwardness and sheer impracticality when used offensively.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

We'd also need to consider removing certain types out of fairness. Dragon should be banned (even if Flygon and Altaria suck), and Steel might need to be because of its awkwardness and sheer impracticality when used offensively.

Not necessarily. Dragon teams would have some difficulty against Water teams, if but due to the presence of Ice Beam. Not only that, but there's enough Pokemon out there that can learn Ice Moves, and also Dragon moves. Dragon teams would be strong, I agree, but not infallible. The same goes for Steel. Steel is slow and weak to several common typings, particularly Ground and Fire. The Fighting weakness doesn't help either.

I suppose this is why team-building is key, isn't it?

FELIPE NO

Even with Ice folks out there, Dragons will dominate in about half of the environment just because their stats are so much better. Types with very few or no upper-tier pokemon, like Fire, will end up getting smoked. Team building is one thing, but I'd like to build teams around my type and not focus so much on building a team that's styled after the meta-game (where you throw in every kind of move possible). Otherwise we're just playing in a normal tournament with a huge handicap of having all our pokemon be one type.

Also, for Steel, I meant it might need to be removed from selection just because of how weak it is offensively (not very effective against a lot of types, very few reliable attack moves). Not to mention its defensive weaknesses you listed.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Hey, if someone wants to take a type that's known to be offensively weak, let them. Who knows, maybe they'll do better than expected. Even Steel has Skarmory, Metagross and Bronzong. They're not exactly pushovers.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Certainly, I wouldn't contest that Steel has some beasts out there, but that is where the problem lies in this kind of tournament. The Steel-themed team would be relying on virtually no Steel type moves, which kind of kills the idea of having a theme to begin with.

It would be modeled after the meta-game exactly, except that your pool of potential pokemon to use is limited to the type you select.

EDIT: Something I'm mulling over in my head to counteract this would be something like... every pokemon you select must have two or three moves of the type your team is made up of (so, Fire Team's Torkoal must have at least two or three Fire moves). Then the other one or two can be whatever you want, mainly for countering the biggest threat to your team's type.

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Originally Posted by Identity Crisis

That never really stopped me from entering with a team consisting of Flying-types. Almost everyone had an answer to my team, but it was fun trying to act as a psuedo Gym Leader in some of the rounds. Nothing was at risk anyway.

Except me. I was fucked against your team since mine was so slow... And you're the only person in the world that I know who actually put Screech to use in battle. ;_;

And just a random toss-up for ideas... How about we all draw for our types? Each type is associated with a number, and whatever number you choose, that's your type you have to use for the tournament. Dual-types are accepted.

Although with that, it seems more logical to do a round-robin thing again...

I'm definitely up for whatever tournament you guys wanna do though. I'd love to get another reason to work with my Diamond Team again. I've been on and off with my Pearl team and that one is nowhere near ready.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

EDIT: Something I'm mulling over in my head to counteract this would be something like... every pokemon you select must have two or three moves of the type your team is made up of (so, Fire Team's Torkoal must have at least two or three Fire moves). Then the other one or two can be whatever you want, mainly for countering the biggest threat to your team's type.

That's kind of... silly. Lots of Pokemon get plenty of moves naturally that don't count as the type they are. I think most people, even people who aren't prepping for any kind of tournament, wouldn't bother having more then one of the same attack type. Unless they are aiming for status effects or other non damage related reasons. Your team is already at a possible disadvantage by sharing the same weakness. Why give yourself another?

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You seem to be misunderstanding the point of that idea. The conundrum some people haven't realized yet is that this "Type Tournament" will quickly revert into a traditional meta-game tournament if we aren't forced to adhere to our typing in some way. The only difference between this tournament and a normal one found in the meta-game would be the pool of potential pokemon to use in a party. We're all picking one type. Naturally, that means we must have disadvantages we must accept.

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And just a random toss-up for ideas... How about we all draw for our types? Each type is associated with a number, and whatever number you choose, that's your type you have to use for the tournament. Dual-types are accepted.

Dual-types sorta need to be accepted, just because a lot of types have few "pure" pokemon (Dragon has none). However, I'd like to see that dual-types only count when the type you represent is its primary type (Metagross for the Steel Team, but not the Psychic Team).

And yeah, I like the idea of our teams being randomized. Keeps things interesting and kinda forces us to not EV train or any of that.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Neither do Flying types. They're all part Normal with that being their primary, oddly enough.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Oh yeah, huh? Well, I guess we could be technical and say that no type is without a "pure" pokemon with the addition of Arceus and his blasted plates, but yeah. I guess Flying would be the exception to the "primary type" rule I suggested.

FELIPE NO

Speaking of legendaries, you just reminded me about the Darkrai event.

The Toys R Us event is this coming May 31st-June 1st from Noon-4 pm.

Gotta jump on that. I got Manaphy that way also.

How ya doing, buddy?

I wanted to do that event, but it's too bad that the nearest Toys R Us is like, a four hour drive away. D:

As for a tournament, I might be interested. I haven't played in quite a while though, so I'm not sure if I'd be able to arrange a team. I'll have to see what I have in the way of types, and levels.

Jam it back in, in the dark.