[Werewolf] Werewolf 28: Town wins, flagons of mead for everyone

Shin. I might add that obviously all Orcus people will vote against Tritoch for sure. With your vote change, we have reached another impasse. Do you wish to let the cloak holder settle things again, Shin? Especially when it wasn't used in Day 1, Hawkeye had no vote on Day 1. Coincidence maybe, but...

If Tritoch hangs and he told us the truth, then Team Orcus has two kills. They can cherry-pick between you (since you're unlynchable) and either lurker or turnip. The next day, it's just 1 townie and myself, against the Orcus team. Winning should be terribly easy then even if they don't have the sword - lynch me by majority vote, kill the townie at night, then victory.

Does it matter if Vecna wins the game? Their victory doesn't include elimination of the other parties like Orcus, Town, or Werewolf. Thus not mutually exclusive. If Tritoch wins, so what? I don't lose. Neither do you. Same deal with you winning. I don't lose if you win. Heck, I don't lose if Orcus wins either. Maybe I'm backing the wrong horse.

P.S. Any idea on the Vampire Lord candidates, Tritoch?

I was speaking idiomatically.

The way I feel about it, Orcus had the game in the bag due to the mechanics of the game. So, what would be just is if we don't allow Orcus to win.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Voting for Tritoch.

FELIPE NO

So we've got the 3 people who Tritoch says are from Orcus voting for Tritoch, plus Shin.

Stop being a stubborn Brit, Shin.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Ah fuck it, I'd rather see Vecna win than Orcus I guess and the chances of me winning are long, long dead. Changing my vote back to knkwzrd.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

the fuck it whatever approach:

Hey zerg, the townies need you dead to win. We don't. Tritoch is not going to win at this point regardless, so fuck him. Kill Tritoch now, we'll all come out of the closet together as the evil bastards we are, and we'll rule the town with an iron fist. Yeah, we could just not kill tritoch and try to lynch a villager today, but that doesn't really embody a serial killer, does it? Total domination, you and me, baby, etc.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Well if that's how it's going to be, Zerg, I've kept you alive so far. Admittedly just so you can kill people and I can try to grab their gear when they die but I don't need to kill you to win the game. Sure, you can't technically win whilst I'm alive but once I'm done looting the place I'm happy to walk away and leave you to your fate.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Way I see it, I can't be the last survivor. Best I can hope is to survive until the end, when someone claims victory.

Adventurer, I have no reason to target you, especially if your victory condition hinges on collecting all the items. If you indeed have the sword and don't intend to use it, I am even more motivated to keep you hale and hearty.

Vecna, I have nothing you want or need. It does seem that you and the Adventurer can band together to win, however, since if you're the last two standing, then you obviously know where all the items are. I have no reason to target you either.

Orcus, the easiest way for me to survive is to sit idle and do nothing. What assurance have I that the three of you will not turn on me the next day?

Townies, I have the strongest motivation to kill you, since one of you (Denicalis) has already expressed a strong desire to eliminate me. However, you don't need to kill the werewolf. Neutralizing him will do. Lynching me every day will do just that.

I have said previously that I'm throwing in my lot with the town, but team Orcus makes an interesting offer.

What say you all?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Orcus' interesting offer is that they're ridiculously overpowered and have been since the very first night. Helping them win is basically like turning the switch to a laser rifle to the on position. It's not much fun, is what I'm saying.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Tritoch presents his findings, and people immediately turn on the most dangerous suspect. There was no way this Day was going to end without knkwzrd dying. An unused pair of Burglar's Gloves drop out of his pocket as he thrashes on the rope.

Things look a little better for Town, but the Werewolf has just been provided with a list of targets and the Doppelganger is more than happy to be a furry as well. Will the wielder of the sword act quickly enough to end the terror before it's too late?

Almost certainly not.

Night... 5? Ends in 48 hours, provided Orcus hasn't clinched the win by then.

Players (7 surviving):

nuttyturnip
Diss
Zergrinch
Chaotic
Skills
Garr
Frank
Tritoch
Denicalis
knkwzrd
Hawkeye
Shin
ZiggyGo
a lurker
Rockgamer
LZ


Roles:

2 peasants
2 DEAD peasants (Rockgamer, Denicalis)
1 DEAD cleric (Frank)
1 DEAD guard (Skills)

1 DEAD serial killer (knkwzrd)
1 doppelganger
1 twitchy recluse

1 DEAD fighter (Garr)
1 DEAD wizard (Diss)
1 bard

1 DEAD vampire lord (Chaotic)
1 DEAD abductor (LZ)
1 necromancer

1 werewolf (Zerg)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

As night falls, a werewolf foolishly breaks into ZiggyGo's house. He is met at the door with a hail of crossbow bolts. Zergrinch limps back to his lair; he won't be voting for a while.

The bearer of the Silver Sword sets out at last to slay the werewolf, only to have a werewolf lunge at him of its own accord! The beast is easily slain by the holy power of the blade, but it is only Hawkeye's body that is found rotting in the streets come morning.

With the murderous threat of Orcus forever broken, ZiggyGo alone is no real danger to the town. It would take the Vecnite necromancer or the visiting bard ages to pick up the pieces, and it's only a matter of waiting for evening before the sword can be finally put to its proper use.

Game Called: Victory for Town.


Thanks for playing, guys. I know I fucked up the team balance in a lot of ways and some of your roles became useless after a while. I honestly didn't notice the doppelganger/serial killer synergy until it was too late, and half of the items never got used at all. But we hadn't had one of these for a while and I thought it was time, even if I barely knew what the fuck I was doing. Thanks for your patience.

FELIPE NO

Fuck YES, Town.

Also, Pang, it had its balance issues but as always? A lot of fun. Much obliged.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

It would be great if you can provide a list of actions, Pang

No need to apologize for balance issues, Pang. You stated as much in your opening post. We knew what we were getting into, and it was good to have another game of Werewolf after so long.

P.S. I totally thought I'd be able to kill ZiggyGo as per the way we usually implement Survivalists. Didn't realize he was immune to night time death

These were my calculations for Night 4:

ZiggyGo killed by me.
Lurker or Turnip killed by Hawkeye
Either me or Hawkeye killed by Shin

Day 5:

Shin and Lurker/Turnip team up to lynch Tritoch
Lurker gives all items to Shin
Shared victory for Adventurers and Town

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Like Deni said, balance issues aside it was nice to finally have another Werewolf game. I think one of the biggest problems was how the Adventurers were completely crippled if the Fighter died. Things worked well enough for the most part, though.

As for Vecna's status, I was still missing the locations of 4 items plus I had been like 90% certain that Shin had the Silver Sword. I still needed the Cloak of Max Charisma, the Eye of Vecna, the Boots of Speed, and the Symbol of Pelor. Chaotic and LZ had owned two of those and we'd found the Eye of Vecna on Deni the night he used it.

Oh, and I had the Elven Chainmail hence why I wasn't very concerned about being lynched yesterday. I still had the Elixir of Dragon's Breath as back-up too. I hope Pang wasn't pissed about me revealing all the roles, but he probably guessed what I was planning when I PMed him asking if the chainmail would protect me from hanging and he seemed cool with it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

It would be great if you can provide a list of actions, Pang

Okay. I'm not going to reiterate everyone's roles here, Tritoch's list is 100% correct.

Night One

Chaotic bites Skills.
Zergrinch messily devours Frank.
Hawkeye mimics Skills and imprisons Diss.
knkwzrd murders Rockgamer.
LZ tortures Garr.
Skills imprisons Garr.
Frank attempts to rolecheck Denicalis, but is dead. I give him the role information anyway because it's funny.
Diss attempts to scry for the Gloves, but is imprisoned.
Garr attempts to pillage LZ, but is imprisoned.

Day One

No secret actions undertaken. Zergrinch lynched, futilely.

Night Two

Chaotic bites Diss.
knkwzrd murders Skills.
Tritoch speaks to Rockgamer's ghost.
Diss scrys for the Gloves.
Hawkeye mimics knkwzrd and murders Garr.
Skills attempts to imprison himself, but is already dead.
LZ tortures knkwzrd.
Garr attempts to pillage knkwzrd, but is already dead.

Day Two

a lurker stuffs the ballot box with an extra vote against Zergrinch. Zergrinch lynched, futilely.

Night Three

Chaotic bites Denicalis
knkwzrd murders LZ.
Hawkeye mimics knkwzrd and murders Diss.
Denicalis triggers the Eye of Vecna, but nobody targets him.
LZ attempts to torture Hawkeye, but is already dead.
Tritoch speaks to LZ's ghost.
Diss attempts to scry for the chainmail, but is already dead.
lurker PMs me to complain about how inevitable it is that Orcus will win.

Day Three

a lurker stuffs the ballot box with an extra vote against Denicalis. Denicalis lynched.

Night Four

Chaotic bites a lurker.
Tritoch speaks to Denicalis' ghost.
a lurker fires off the Wand, stunning Hawkeye, Zergrinch, and Chaotic.
Zergrinch attempts to messily devour Chaotic, but is already stunned.
knkwzrd murders Chaotic.
Hawkeye attempts to mimic Zergrinch and messily devour nuttyturnip, but is already stunned.

Day Four

Tritoch blows your mind, maaaaan
a lurker stuffs the ballot box with an extra vote against knkwzrd. knkwzrd lynched.

Night Five

a lurker bites Hawkeye.
Tritoch speaks to knkwzrd's ghost.
Zergrinch attempts to messily devour ZiggyGo and ends the game as a pincushion.
Hawkeye mimics Zergrinch and attacks Shin.
Shin attacks Zergrinch with the Sword, but a coin toss reveals it to actually be Hawkeye. Hawkeye sliced & diced.


Item owners at game end:

Nutty: Symbol, Gloves
a lurker: Cloak, Boots
Tritoch: Elixir, Chainmail
ZiggyGo: Water, Eye
Shin: Sword

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

O Shin you

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I think you've got the items a bit mixed up, Pang. Knkwzrd's ghost said that Lurker took the Gloves.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Shin: Sword

Vindication!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tritoch

Knkwzrd's ghost said that Lurker took the Gloves

Why would you trust that guy, he's evil.

(Yeah I screwed up on that PM but it didn't really affect much I think.)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Nope, I got the gloves last night (I forgot to use them).

A big fist bump to Lurker for watching her fellow townsperson's back on Night 4.

FELIPE NO

I'm just lolling that my predictions were way off. Owned.

Also I was pretty po'd about the massive imbalance but honestly it was still fun playing, especially when they didn't win in the end. Good job everybody!

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

Nope, I got the gloves last night (I forgot to use them).

A big fist bump to Lurker for watching her fellow townsperson's back on Night 4.

Except it balances when she STUCK THE KNIFE IN MY BACK DESPITE KNOWING I WAS A TOWNSPERSON.



YOU MONSTER.

Most amazing jew boots

In retrospect, maybe handing all of our items to the guy on our team with the chainmail would have been a good idea.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I thought about suggesting it a few times, but it also seemed like a dick move to ask you both to give me all your stuff.

Boots of Speed were more useful on Chaotic than they ever would've been on me too.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm glad Team Overpowered didn't win. Though, still very curious why you guys didn't doppelganger an extra kill the first night.

As mentioned, the biggest problem with the Rainbow Warriors was as soon as Garr died we were basically ruined. Unfortunately for us, Garr and myself both work during the day, and Shin's in Europe, so almost all of our actions were always at the bottom of the pile. I think in the future doing sequential resolutions could work, but only if the submissions were randomized or something beforehand. Normal people just can't compete with the F5 Brigade.

It was cool to see one of these run again, so thanks for taking the reins, Pang. One thing I'd been discussing with Lurker was how it's kind of a drag how we never play any of the older game scenarios any more. Some of them were really cool, but I guess everyone feels that once someone creates a rule set it's sort of "theirs" and nobody else feels comfortable running it.

Well, here's an easy solution: Crash is a gaywad, but that anything-goes game he ran a while back was pretty fun. He's obviously not around anymore to feel like I'm stepping on his toes by jacking his rules, and even if he was, fuck him, I do what I want. Do you guys want to play another iteration of that?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

YES I DO.

I was speaking idiomatically.