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[DS] Final Fantasy IV 3D DS
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Old Sep 4, 2007, 09:18 AM #101 of 313
Oh I dunno, seems they did well enough when they were putting out original ips all over the place back in the SNES era.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 09:45 AM Local time: Sep 4, 2007, 07:45 AM #102 of 313
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Oh I dunno, seems they did well enough when they were putting out original ips all over the place back in the SNES era.
Also a lot of the PlayStation era. They did release a couple of remake packages that I remember there being fuss about, but they also had like, the Parasite Eve games, Threads of Fate, Musashi, Einhander, couple of SaGas, Bushido Blade, Vagrant Story and the like. But I'd say they're probably making more cash on these FF reprints than anything else.

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Makes me wonder how many people own all of the remakes Squenix has thrown out.
Well in *my* defense, I've skipped the GBA remakes except for FFIV (well I downloaded Dawn of Souls and played for like 10 minutes, but that doesn't count does it?) and skipped the recent PSP FFI & II remakes.

I do admit that I'm a sucker for FF's 4 and 6 though, so yeah, I am a sap and will buy FF4 on DS and would love FF6 on PS4.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 04:30 PM #103 of 313
Saga isn't really a original IP anyway though. They just didn't throw the series at us really before SaGa Frontier. Well, Final Fantasy Legends 1 and 2 were also originally "SaGa" games but they obviously didn't think they were going to do very well without a familiar name tacked on to them, so I'm not sure you can count those. It had already been a popular franchise in Japan well before then, and they still keep up with them in America (not sure about Europe) these days anyway. (We got both Unlimited and Minstrel Song, so it isn't like they were only tossin' them out in the PSOne era)

I would like to see them put some effort into a truly new game but the sad truth is that even if they did... if it does well, you'll just see them churn out sequels for that anyway until they don't sell well anymore. One new original IP isn't going to help, they'll just milk it too afterwards. lawl Square.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 06:49 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2007, 04:49 PM #104 of 313
Saga isn't really a original IP anyway though. They just didn't throw the series at us really before SaGa Frontier. Well, Final Fantasy Legends 1 and 2 were also originally "SaGa" games but they obviously didn't think they were going to do very well without a familiar name tacked on to them, so I'm not sure you can count those. It had already been a popular franchise in Japan well before then, and they still keep up with them in America (not sure about Europe) these days anyway. (We got both Unlimited and Minstrel Song, so it isn't like they were only tossin' them out in the PSOne era)
Well yeah I know that, but I suppose I listed those mostly because they were tnew to America at that time, and they were something other than Final Fantasy. So you're right, not a new IP so much, but it was something different, so I tacked it onto the list. *Shrug* I probably should have explained myself a bit more originally. Sorry ^^

I would like to see them put some effort into a truly new game but the sad truth is that even if they did... if it does well, you'll just see them churn out sequels for that anyway until they don't sell well anymore. One new original IP isn't going to help, they'll just milk it too afterwards. lawl Square.
It really is sad, isn't it? I enjoy sequels, but part of me also wants to preserve the integrity of the original. Such a battle that goes on inside me :/
Part of me wants Skies of Arcadia 2 (I know, not Square, but still)...part of me would rather it be left alone. (And the latter part will probably win out, heh.)

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Old Sep 13, 2007, 04:07 AM Local time: Sep 13, 2007, 03:07 AM #105 of 313


Rydia looks somewhat normal, as does Yang.

Too bad their sprite in-game looks weird (well, Yang's anyway)

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Old Sep 13, 2007, 04:29 AM Local time: Sep 13, 2007, 01:29 AM #106 of 313
Ok, IMO, just about all the CG renders of the characters look HOT, especially Rydia. It makes me wish the DS remakes along with FF6 would be next gen bound instead. Then again, its probably the graphic whore in me spewing this. I prob will get FF4 on DS, once I get FF3 as well... Money is a bit short on my end...

I think Rydia here on GFF might wanna switch avvies to this CG render. I think it would look nice...

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I so want a widescreen wallpaper of this.

Regarding new IPs, we do have Last Remnants and Nomura's Subarashiki Kono Sekai (Wonderful World), but from the looks of it, Square isnt paying too much attention to those by comparison either... Sad. I heard Sekai is a really fun DS RPG... Would be a shame to not at least localise it for NA. And Remnants at least looked like its trying something new. Though the Microsoft conference probably showed more of Remnants...

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Old Sep 13, 2007, 05:56 AM #107 of 313
Wow, CG Yang's face resembles my current history professor far too closely. I'm slightly disturbed.

I was hoping that adult Rydia's in-game sprite would have less pointy hair, but it still doesn't look too bad. It would be nice if they'd made it closer to the CG rendering, but we can't have an FF game these days without at least one character with outrageously pointy hair, I suppose.

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Part of me wants Skies of Arcadia 2 (I know, not Square, but still)...part of me would rather it be left alone. (And the latter part will probably win out, heh.)
Provided they set it in a different world, or at least far enough apart from the original's storyline, I would kill for a sequel to SoA.

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Old Sep 13, 2007, 07:37 AM #108 of 313
Wait WHAT? There's gonna be dual-cast spells for people BESIDES the twins?

Fan fucking tastic.

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Old Sep 13, 2007, 10:24 PM Local time: Sep 13, 2007, 07:24 PM #109 of 313
I think Rydia here on GFF might wanna switch avvies to this CG render. I think
I had actually switched before reading this thread.

Her design in this one is somewhat close to what I originally thought she wore. But the new design is much better. I also like the way Yang looks since it doesn't seem like they changed much about him.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 14, 2007, 03:04 AM #110 of 313
I wonder if giving characters a lot of the skills will make this game more like FF6 (*cringes*) ....

Hopefully we get to choose from some and it'll feel great instead of all-out cheap.

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Old Sep 14, 2007, 10:31 AM #111 of 313
Seriously, why are we discussing how it looks. DUAL CASTS.

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Old Sep 14, 2007, 11:24 AM Local time: Sep 14, 2007, 09:24 AM #112 of 313
Seriously, why are we discussing how it looks. DUAL CASTS.
Because I'll bet the DUAL CASTS look AWESOME!

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 11:28 AM #113 of 313
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Old Sep 18, 2007, 02:40 PM Local time: Sep 18, 2007, 12:40 PM #114 of 313
This may be the first time I actually BUY FFIV. I've played all the other versions on Emulator. Looks Nice... but, on those new scans, what the heck is that white puppet thing with the bowtie?? Looks creepy.

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 02:49 PM #115 of 313
Yeah.... people are speculating on a different board about this, but no idea.

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 02:58 PM #116 of 313
Whatever it is, it's kinda cute. Reminds me of a cross between a moogle and a calcobrena. Maybe it's a new status effect?

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 03:14 PM #117 of 313
Could be the dolls! Luca's evil dolls!

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 18, 2007, 03:20 PM #118 of 313
Yeah, the Calcobrena. That was my first thought, or a redesign of the Namingways.

More than likely it's something completely new though. Since there's a screen of one in your battle formation it must either be a new race or a new status effect. Possibly both.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 11:37 AM #119 of 313
BIG UPDATE: Final Fantasy IV en vidéo

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 11:59 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2007, 10:59 AM #120 of 313
This thread just reminded me that I have FF4. It's the PSX version called Final Fantasy Chronicles. I only ever played it once for about 10 minutes.. So, should I play through the original version first or wait for this one to come out on DS? XD

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 12:25 PM #121 of 313
Yeah, might as well. Get used to what FF4 was in the past , then play the DS one and notice the changes they are going to make. They are adding a lot more.

You have plenty of time to beat FF4, too, it's only September.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 03:11 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2007, 01:11 PM #122 of 313
Just play the DS version. You don't really need to have played the original. If you DO choose, for yourself, to be knowledgable, play the GBA version.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 05:04 PM #123 of 313
There is no point whatsoever in the PS1 version. The GBA one has bonus caves. Also, the PS1 has a tad worse loading and stuff. If you can't get the GBA one, play the ROM on SNES.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 08:01 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2007, 06:01 PM #124 of 313
Just play the DS version. You don't really need to have played the original.
Oh but what a waste of the nostalgia the game is designed to bring.
A game like FF4, I'd totally recommend playing the original before a remake.

The reason everyone is so giddy is because we've all been through it (some of us like dozens of times--it's my wife's favorite game and she loves doing speed runs) and it's a total classic. Seeing the remake makes us excited because we see the opportunity for something we love to be "new again," to an extent. If you play the DS version first and then backtrack, I'd say you're probably selling yourself short. (Not that it will be "bad" or "inferior," but when the remade one is your first experience...it's just not gonna be good for subconscious bar-setting in certain areas.)

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Old Sep 21, 2007, 02:31 AM Local time: Sep 21, 2007, 12:31 AM #125 of 313
That's all true, but one can't create insta-nostalgia. He missed the game when it was new, and playing an old SNES cart will only make him dislike the game as he will be seeing it from the lens of 2007.

Rather he ignore the nostalgia and play the DS version first, so that maybe later he could go back and replay the original and see what we saw, back then.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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