[Wii] Smash Bros. Brawl

I'm pretty sure a specific month hasn't been confirmed at all (correct me if I'm wrong), and all we know is that it will come out sometime in 2007.

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EB's site recently gave it a release date of June 1, 2007. Not to say that date is reliable in the least, but it could end up being much later than March.

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I don't care if it's too much later than March, that just gives me more time to save for a Wii. So far SSBB is thy only reason for me to get one, unless Twilight (sp?) Princess totally kicks the ass.

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Originally Posted by Omnislash124

lol....

Wouldn't Sonic just beam back and forth across the stage?

That depends on how you intend to play him.

He needs a little room and time to pick up speed anyways. By the time he gets up to speed he's either on the other side of the stage already or falling off it.

Besides, like everyone else in Smash Bros., if he has no attacks from his games that can be applied, then stuff will just be made up for him (see Spinning Kong).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

If Sonic's in there I want Tails. I always liked him more.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by HazelGuy

If Sonic's in there I want Tails. I always liked him more.

I kind of hope that if they add a Sonic Team Member that they leave it at sonic, and don't make a bunch of Sonic clones like Tails would have the potential to be. If they add someone like Tails, then they may have to add Knuckles, and if it even gets that far, I hope it goes no further because if they even dip into any chaos members it might be too much of an already lukewarm thing.

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I would accept up to Knuckles, but anything past that and i might consider boycotting the game.

I almost hope they add Sonic, but they'd better give him his own move set, and not just a clone of an original character.

The only characters i care about them adding are Diddy, and or Dixey Kong. Those two were my favourite Kongs, in my favourite Donkey Kong game. It's atrocious that Diddy isn't already in the lineup as of SSBM, and i do think that Dixey deserves to be featured in the lineup as well.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I just hope we get to see some new levels or some gameplay in action. Maybe we'll something at E3 (or some other gaming expo) or even before then.

If they do add in another Sonic character into the game, I'm hoping that it'll be Knuckles. I can already imagine a few of his moves. Tails isn't a bad choice either. If they add in any of the new Sonic characters from the 3D games or Knuckles Chaotix, that would be stupid.

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Sega has characters other than the Sonic ones, you know.

I hate Sonic...

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Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

Sega has characters other than the Sonic ones, you know.

I hate Sonic...

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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

Sega has characters other than the Sonic ones, you know.

I hate Sonic...

What Sega characters would be eligable for SSBB other than Sonic? When people think Sega, they think Sonic. If Nintendo was to put a Sega character in SSBB, then it's gonna be Sonic.

Also, is it just me, or is it about time for Sega to come up with a new Franchise. I think it'd be nice to have a new game character to follow, in the same vein as Sonic, or Mario. Nintendo's opening up this generation with three brand new franchises, which look like they could be hits. Not quite what i had in mind in terms of "new franchise", but still, hits none the less. Maybe Sega should take a leaf out of Nintendo's book.

I really want somebody to just go out on a limb, and come up with a new character.

I was speaking idiomatically.

So we're looking for another anthropomorphic character?

Dude, possibly the worst idea for an SSBB Sega Character.....Ecco the Dolphin....

No, but seriously, I think we'll take a look at the result of putting Sonic in first before we start considering other Sega Characters. This is the first iteration of the Smash Bros series that features third party characters, I think we should see the result first before we start talking. If anything, the public opinion of Solid Snake and Sonic would tell us if we should add more 3rd party characters in or not.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well, the Super Monkey Ball franchise was a damn near exclusive franchise for the Gamecube. If I think Sega and Nintendo and new franchise I think of that series. But those characters would be rather meh for Smash Bros.

FELIPE NO

Hehehe. Alex Kidd Rock paper scissor your enemies to death. XD


I kid I kid.

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Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

Sega has characters other than the Sonic ones, you know.

No shit. But remember that Sonic is (or was) Sega's flagship mascot. People associate Sonic with Sega. What other Sega character would they put in SSBB? Someone that would actually work in a game like SSBB?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Helloween

What Sega characters would be eligable for SSBB other than Sonic?

Originally Posted by Lizardcommando

What other Sega character would they put in SSBB? Someone that would actually work in a game like SSBB?

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O RLY?

What can those monkeys do? Roll around like in their plastic balls and be useless cannon fodder? :lolsign:

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Originally Posted by Lizardcommando

... What can those monkeys do? Roll around like in their plastic balls and be useless cannon fodder? :lolsign:

Yes... yes it can...
>_>

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Lizardcommando

O RLY?

What can those monkeys do? Roll around like in their plastic balls and be useless cannon fodder? :lolsign:

Hey, that's what I said about Sonic.

Granted, Sonic has more potential than the monkeys, but not by much.

I was speaking idiomatically.

^Once again I point you to Sonic the Fighters/Sonic Battle.

If THAT doesn't convince you Sonic can fight I don't know what will. Characters have gotten better movesets with less (C.Falcon, Fox, etc.)

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by J-Man

....and if it even gets that far, I hope it goes no further because if they even dip into any chaos members it might be too much of an already lukewarm thing.

Yes, I agree. If they add the newer gay characters they've created in the newer Sonic games, that would be lame as hell. (I hate the newer Sonic games.)

Anyway Sonic would be awesome addition to Brawl and Tails and Knuckles would also be OK.

However, the thing with Tails and Knuckles is that for the most part, they really aren't that different from Sonic.

First, all three can do the spin dash...



(I would guess that this would make a good B+Down or just B move, but it shoots to the right, so I don't know...)

All of their jumps make them curl up and hurt enemies.



(I'd want to say that every time Sonic/Tails/Knuckles jump, they'd curl into a ball and damage opponents, but that's probably a little unfair to the rest of the characters in the roster. However, they could make them jump normally but use this as B+Up or B, but seeing Sonic jump normally would look weird.)

And as somebody said on the last page, the abilities from Sonic 3/Knuckles could be used.

Electricity...



(I'd think that electricity can be used for B+Up [or just B if jumping and curling into a ball is used for B+Up] with the four sparks that come off damaging nearby opponents, the electricity staying on temporarily, attracting metallic items [like it does rings] and damaging opponents that touch it.)

And finally, fire...



(Fire could be used for B+Over, but doesn't stay on like electricity.)

When it comes to their attack differences, I can't think of any between Sonic and Tails (unless their Super Sonic and Super Tails abilities are different in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I wouldn't know. I've never got all of the chaos emeralds.)

Knuckles on the other hand, could use his...knuckles to fight.



(Since all of the B buttons are used up, punching with his knuckles would make a good SMASH+A attack. Or hell, just running into people with them like he does certain walls.)

If they wanted to get creative, they could let him use a bomb, like he did when he bombed Launch Base Zone:





And if they don't want to put that in there, then hell, he can just crush his opponents with a big rock:



Another way the three of them are different is in their ability to recover.

Tails could fly...



but like Kirby and Jigglypuff, he only has a limited amount of time in addition to the electricity. So... *fly*...*start to fall down*...*electricity*...*back up on stage* And like Kirby and Jigglypuff, he would be lighter and easier to throw around and his attacks would be weaker than everybody elses.

Knuckles could glide through the air, use the electricity, grab onto the side of the stage and crawl back on (sorry, no screenshot), but his glide wouldn't be that good and it would be limited, making recovery harder than Tails. So...*glide a little ways while still falling fairly fast*...*come out of glide, unable to use it again*...*electricity*...*grab the bottom of the stage*...*crawl up*...*back up on stage.* His attacks would be stronger than Tails and he would be harder to throw around.

Sonics ability to recover would totally suck ass since he can't fly, glide or grab, but he would be hard to throw around and the strongest of the three.

So basically, they would be clones of varying strength with different recovering abilities and hopefully some different attacks (Knuckles' SMASH+A = punch with knuckles), though their B button attacks would probably be the same. (Not sure how Knuckles could throw a bomb or roll a rock, but whatever, just two unlikely possibilities.)

Thoughts?

And while we're on the topic of Sonic in SSBB, what about Death Egg as a stage? There are more than enough hazards to choose from (I'm not going to talk about all of them, my post is long enough) but the one that would make it the most interesting would be switching the gravity back and forth. Have two of those switches on the edge of the stage or something, one on top, one on bottom, and when the bottom on is pressed, everybody fights updside down until the other switch on the top is pressed!



It would sure make for some interesting matches.

FELIPE NO

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But to add 3 Sega Characters in one iteration of the series seems a bit much to me. Their jump couldn't be damaging though, or else it would be VERY cheap. They'd jump into a ball, but they couldn't be dealing damage at the same time. WAY too cheap. Those are some good ideas, the only ones I could have thought were the regular dash, the Fireball, and the lightning recovery (that you showed above). Can't imagine lightning attracting metal things though, sword characters would be screwed if that were the case.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Ugh, whatever. Sonic sucks. Let's settle his movelist and move onto something else.

Here's one I thought of.

B: Ringshot (he throws a ring forward and then zooms forward in an instant to catch it; stylish and cool, reflective of his attitude and sort of like Fox's smash+B move, in that it slashes anyone in the way. the ring also does very minor damage, but it goes through the opponent)

Smash+B: Spindash (hold down and charge to go further)

Up+B: Top-spin slice (he jumps up and curls into a ball; it makes a whirring sound effect and slashes people for multiple hits, and plus a visible slashing effect is going through the air around him, sort of like what happens in Sonic 3 when you press Jump twice)

Down+B: Figure-8 (he rapidly spins his legs in place, creating a figure-8 with the motion blur; then he spins around and kicks people, kind of breakdancing)

Super Smash: Sigh... Super Sonic. All I know is that he has a form where he's golden; I'm not sure what it entails.

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Just be glad they aren't adding a Samus Clone from Microsoft (Master Chief). Hahah...

Master Chief feels out of place anywhere but in Halo. DOA4...ugh..

I pray SSB3 is as good as gamecube's....but yeah, if they add too many people from other franchises in its just going to be a multi-franchise party game and alienate Nintendo fans...or will it?

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Originally Posted by Makaar

I pray SSB3 is as good as gamecube's....but yeah, if they add too many people from other franchises in its just going to be a multi-franchise party game and alienate Nintendo fans...or will it?

Again, the purpose of the Super Smash Bros. series is to fight Nintendo Characters with other Nintendo Characters. Small offshoots are fine, but the moment we have a significant amount of characters who have never been on a Nintendo console, the main purpose of SSB is lost.

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