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No, I do not see the humor in bombs and rockets.
Not very much. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Oh you know what I mean. Bleh.
I was speaking idiomatically.
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No, nobody can understand what you mean because you keep typing with your giant shrieking vagina instead of your hands.
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Anyways...
To get back on topic, it looks like the UN is halting aid missions into Gaza as the Israeli's have been attacking their convoys. UN halts aid to Gaza, citing Israeli attacks on staff "Sure, we'll let aid come in for a few hours every other day, we'll even stop shooting at the 'rabs for you, but now we'll just practice with you!" How ya doing, buddy?
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National borders were arbitrarily drawn, dividing similar peoples and creating artificial distinctions. Infrastructure was built that was designed to prevent regional trading (all the railroads led to ports). Farmers were forced to grow cash crops that destroyed the soil and left them without sustenance. Brutal regimes killed hundreds of thousands. Of course, that was 50+ years ago. Then the IMF and World Bank came around and gave crippling loans to desperate governments, knowing that they would never be able to afford the interest. I'm not a post-modernist, but to say that Africans and Arabs don't have culture as defined by your arbitrary definition is simply fucking retarded. Also, let's forget entirely about Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan and all the other Arab nations that enjoy relatively high standards of living with less of the religious fundamentalism. Even Iran, the predominantly Shiite outsider hated by Arabs is lumped into the group and given a bad rep when most of the population is quite progressive, but ruled by Ayatollah's. oh whatever. lol at the above SHOW THEM MOZLEMS WHOS BOSS edit: MUTHAFUCKAAAASSSS What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Wear my heart on my sleeve.
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
Syklis Green |
Well, although that thread is from a conspiracy forum, it refers to multiple articles from reputable news sources to back up its claim. I could have just provided a link to one of those news sources, but I think providing a collective of sources from that thread would be more helpful.
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Israel could violate Gaza's economic exploitation zone and nobody would care. I'm not even sure if the PLA is entitled to those kind of rights.
Israel invaded Gaza to time the post-Christmas news cycle and Bush leaving office. As much as Obama is probably going to support Israel as much as every other president he's still a wild card so Israel is doing their best to damage Hamas to the point where it'll take them years to recover. I was speaking idiomatically. |
There was a particularly poignant piece on Al-Jazeera earlier where a Norweigan doctor working in Gaza was on the phone talking about the situation. There's been no power for a fortnight now, 33 ambulance crewmen have been killed trying to help people, the Israelis seem to be just indiscriminately dropping bombs on civilians and he reckons they've barely hurt Hamas at all.
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Israel is hurting HAMAS. A HAMAS higher up can't take a shit without Mossad knowing about it. Problem is for every HAMAS they kill you're also counting about 4 kids 8 women and 3 men. vv
FELIPE NO |
I read an opinion piece today by Mona Charen (a neocon rabble-rouser, but still) the nugget of truth nestled in there was that Israel is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Fundamentalist papers and the Hamas government are more likely to see Israel's concessions as signs of weakness than as gestures of goodwill.
Now given, they haven't been as discriminating as they should be, but with Hamas' tendency to use civilian structures as bunkers, is there a way that Israel can defend itself without drawing international ire? Most amazing jew boots |
Not really, which is what I going for before.
Even that's not the entirety of it, though. For Israel, the ire of the international community is nothing compared to that of the Palestinians living in all this. By invading Gaza to rid themselves of Hamas the Israelis have only united and inspired Palestinian youth to act, effectively swelling Hamas' as-yet-untouched ranks. But again, what would you have they do? Sit idly by as missiles explode on their own land? It's a hell of a situation, that's for sure. Most amazing jew boots
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And one of the most annoying things about all of this is that neither side will stop the violence. Both sides have turned down the UN's much called for cease-fire, saying that they will not stop until the other side stops. Both sides want to have the last word in this fight, and I'm not sure if peace is even going to be possible at the rate Israel and Hamas leaders are going.
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hmmmmmmmmmmm hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhmmmmmm People talk about HAMAS "hiding in civilian centers" like they should stand out in the middle of a field and wait for Israeli F-16s to line up the laser designators. These are weekend warriors to begin with so they're already embedded in the civilian population as they're, durp durr, civilians. Cry and moan and gnash your teeth about how HAMAS uses human shield tactics all you want but this is how asymmetric wars are fought, it's just that in this particular instance the IDF doesn't give a shit about human shields. The "best" route for Israel has already been chosen, since Israeli policy makers have committed themselves to crippling HAMAS and ensuring their defeat in the Palestinian civil war. If Israel was looking for a long term solution to sectarian violence meted out by unguided rockets that kill a handfull of people a year their best course would have been to do nothing. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Kadima isn’t perfect, I’ll concede that, but they’ve been more willing than Hamas to pursue peace. No other country would absorb rocket attacks without reacting for as long as Israel did. I don't know what reality you live in if you think people are going to tolerate their government not acting when rockets are being launched daily near their homes. EDIT: Your cartoon is fucked. Think about it, if you’re entrusted to defend your country, and you see the enemy launching rockets dangerously close to civilian areas, which are killing your own people, what are you going to do? Are you just going to sit by and let it happen? Furthermore, are you really going to have any sympathy for someone who knowingly congregates near a place where rockets are being launched into Israel? You know it’s going to be a target, so why are you staying there? It’s not that hard to hear rockets being launched from your backyard. Get the fuck out if you’re too chicken shit to throw them off your land. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Hamas isn't a Gaza separatist movement, numbnuts.
But then I'm debating political nuance with a dbzatar. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Factoring in the ground force that's firing on aid workers, we can see it's unlikely fleeing would get you anything other than a quick trip to the grave. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
Look, geopolitical realities are no excuse when you're living next to terrorists. Maybe if you don't want to get bombed by the IDF you should leave Gaza.
*gets shot at IDF checkpoint* FELIPE NO |
Edit: What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Not like Israel has left Gaza alone, mind. There's still the economic strangulation and fun stuff like low-flying Israeli jets creating sonic booms that cause health problems like damaging children's ears.
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
I haven't really been reading the arguments in this thread, but I read an article the other day that I thought was quite well done and I thought it might be appreciated here.
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