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You caaaraaazy American's and your tips, you'd be completely fucked down here! Tips consist of 'keep the change!' when the bill comes to something like $98 and they leave a $100 note.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I just wanted to make sure the hospitality of our server, his very reasonable manager(s), and the kitchen staff was well rewarded. I don't think what I did was absurd. The restaurant pretty much sacrificed 5-6 tables they could have used to serve customers that would have ordered alcohol, a full-price entree, and possibly appetizers and desserts, so given that their sales could have been impacted by our huge party, I would think that leaving down a couple extra Jacksons would not be too crazy. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Why not just buy more food?
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
How ya doing, buddy? |
My mom once attempted to get a server in Chengdu to "keep the change". Poor guy looked terrified. Maybe we need to go to posher restaurants.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
How ya doing, buddy? |
Same goes for the cook, too. Yes, like, I know it's late and everybody wants to go home and there's all this other shit in the restaurant that needs to get done before you can close officially, but that is really no reason to be STINGY on the quality of the food OR to fuck with the customers meal or whatever. Nobody likes the last minute customer, but since you are essentially a slave to the store hours, just do your fucking job and do it without being a colossal dick. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
The reason it matters is because your food is going to take more than fifteen minutes to make. You are going to take more than fifteen minutes to eat. This is more directed to the people that come in fifteen minutes before we close and don't leave until a half an hour to an hour after we close. We can't kick you out. We can't even mentioned that we've closed because it's against policy. If you're gone before we close or just two minutes, that's not too bad and we don't really mind, especially if you're a really nice table. (I'm referring to attitude, not tip.) But if you're still there when we're no longer accepting more guests because we're closed, you can listen to us vacuum. It's your fault for not respecting company hours. Although, I did once have a manager vacuum hours before we closed and that was annoying. It's like, you know the floor around those tables is just going to get dirty again, and you're pissing off my guests, I'd be pissed.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Perhaps it's a good idea for staff to pressure management to close earlier so as to not inconvenience yourselves with YOUR JOB.
How ya doing, buddy? |
So you think it's perfectly acceptable to stay somewhere a half an hour plus after they've closed?
Last Monday a table didn't leave until 11:50. We close at 10:00. Basically you're saying we have no right to be upset at them even though they're the ones not respecting company hours. If we were to go by what Sass and Seris are suggesting, we wouldn't even begin closing until they'd left. Almost two hours after we were closed, simply because there was one table left. I was speaking idiomatically.
Last edited by The_Melomane; Oct 25, 2008 at 11:14 AM.
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If your employer had an issue with people remaining to enjoy their meal after your normal business hours were over they would take steps to let people know about it. The fact that it is against your policy to even mention that you're closed suggests that your place of work has no problem with people finishing their meal leisurely.
Find another job. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
I'm not saying that having to do that is annoying, but it is your job to do that sort of thing every so often. Some of the customers coming in, they might be working long days too and the only time they have to get what they need to get done is 20 minutes before closing time. Shit happens. It does not entitle you, the employee, to take your frustrations out on them regardless of the circumstances. FELIPE NO |
Perhaps this recession will reduce the sense of entitlement some employees in the American hospitality industry seem to carry.
That aside, I'm convinced that the minimum wage law has to change - to NOT include tips in the calculation. The provision is probably there for small and medium restaurateurs. But it's still unfair. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I wasn't complaining. Nobody does anything to the customers. I'm just saying it's incredibly rude to think that you're entitled to stay well past closing time. They get the same treatment as everyone else. However, you can't expect to stay past close and have the ENITRE restaurant hold everything just for you. This goes for anything. I'm sure if someone was at Yonkers past closing time, everyone except the cashiers would continue to close as if it were normal.
According to my mom who's been a manager for about 18 years, if restaurants DIDN'T pay their servers so little and use tips, the cost of your meal would double because it'd need to include the cost of paying the servers. In essence we do it because it keeps you from having to pay $50 for a $25 meal. (I have no idea how accurate this is, just that that's basically what my mom told me.) Jam it back in, in the dark. |
That's total bullshit. Servers are paid at the very least minimum wage here, and there are still plenty of places you can go to get a meal for $15 if that's all you want to spend.
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Regressing Since 1988 |
Where's "here" wingman? In the land of blue cocks and all points northward server's make $2 and change plus tips. It ain't a bad deal in the long run, but that damn fool in the Schwarze squadron doesn't know what he's talking about.
Sense of entitlement? I work for tips, if you can't afford to tip then you can't afford to go out to eat, recession or no. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
This was in a bar, and I had been there for a while, having already payed for and tipped quite well on a few beers. It so happened my bank card had been deactivated so I could only use the cash I had on me to pay. At the end of our visit, I had ordered some food and one last beer, and when I went to pay I realised that I had just a bit less money on me than I thought and ended up only leaving about 10% tip. I even apologized to the girl for the relatively small tip, but she wouldn't hear it. She decided instead to start using profanities to tell me I could have ordered something less expensive, etc. I had been there many times before and had always left good tips and again, I had paid for a few beers beforehand and had left good tips on those. And she couldn't have forgotten about it since this was during the daytime and the place was pretty much empty. No need to say I never set foot in that place again. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? Juggle dammit |
There are a number of restaurants (cheap and high-falutin') that don't allow tipping because they pay their servers adequate wages. One place I go to a lot for lunch is Noodles & Company. A lunch there usually costs $8 - $10, including drink. No double price here, that's how much I routinely pay for lunch.
FELIPE NO |
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I believe that in this case I was saying that Quebec was the shittier of the two, by making servers pay out taxes on their tips.
Jam it back in, in the dark. Juggle dammit |
What you should've done was take your tip back. I mean, she was yelling at you already, might as well go for broke.
But no that's pretty shitty. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
That is what came to mind once I got over the shock of what had just happened.
Unfortunately, by then I was out of there and well on my way home. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. Juggle dammit |
Just the other night though, we went to this barbecue place that's usually pretty awesome, and the waiter had little to no personality, like he didn't even want to be there, didn't come back to ask if the food was good, and when he took my glass to refill it, he ended up giving it to the table next to us. I would've tipped him a dollar (Hadn't heard of the penny tip until now. I may start bringing a penny with me to restaurants just in case now.), but the lowest bill I had was a five and I'd already crossed out the tip section on the debit receipt. So he got nothing. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
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