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[DS] Final Fantasy IV 3D DS
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 06:51 AM Local time: Aug 22, 2007, 06:51 AM #76 of 313
I'd love a 2D remake, but the models don't perturb me too much. I was a big fan of Yoshitaka Amano's artwork, so semi-girly-looking models don't upset me (unless they get weird on their clothing a la Nomura...).

Dunno if the "25% of the original story got to the game" thing is true, but if it is, we're in for one hell of a remake. The retranslation (both fan and official) seemed to hint at Kain having a thing for Rosa. It'd be interesting if they played that out well =o It would instill my faith back in to Square, even if only for a short while.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 07:36 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 01:36 AM #77 of 313
If they manage to tweak the minor annoyances of Final Fantasy III DS, this is going to be an amazing remake.
Minor?

I think the problem with III was that the DS can't deal with proper models, so everything looks un-aliased and slapped together with a 3D tool.

The screenshots in the scans which Tequila linked are "still images" of characters. It's what it looks like when an actual PV comes out that matters. How they're going to not make them look like wriggly bullshit is beyond me.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:10 PM Local time: Aug 22, 2007, 12:10 PM #78 of 313






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Old Aug 22, 2007, 02:39 PM #79 of 313
I wonder if FFIV DS will be capable of this many....

...enemies.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 05:10 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 04:10 AM #80 of 313
Now see, if the whole game looked like that, I'd be happy. Granted it's only the DS, but if Squeenix came out of nowhere and did a really good 2D conversion in the same vein as Odin Sphere and Grim Grimoire, I think I'd die on the spot. Snowballs in Hell, I know, but a man can dream.

I'm reflecting on how silly Golbez looked during that short bit at the end of the original game when they made a player sprite out of him. The graphical limitations of the SNES sort of let you handwave the fact that Golbez was inexplicably 20 feet tall when you fought him, but it's going to look strange with everything being more detailed and 3D - or ridiculous if you're still fighting cutesy chibi Golbez.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 08:32 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 06:32 AM #81 of 313
Given that the chance Square would do some shit like, say, render any of the older Final Fantasy games into a 2D remake at the level of the animation sneakery of Odin Sphere is... wait for it... a "fan-ta-sy."

So clever. So... gay.

Anyway, I like the way it looks. The designs of Final Fantasy II/IV were a strong point of the game. Aside from Rosa, who isn't all that great of a design visually (in my opinion, torch burning angry people), I really dig the looks of Dark Knight Cecil and Kain. In spite of being "chibi", they manage to come off with an aura of... uh, darkness and seriousness. Really.

It looks good considering the hardware, and I think giving the best effort on what you're working with at the time is commendable. Looking good, Square. Doesn't mean I loved Final Fantasy II/IV enough to play it again, but I'm not gonna hate.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 08:49 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 08:49 AM #82 of 313
Something tells me that I'll like it. When I first heard about it though, I groaned. That's just because FF III DS left a very bad taste in my mouth at first.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 11:58 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 08:58 PM #83 of 313
Myself and borg have been masturbating to the new scans.

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Old Aug 25, 2007, 10:26 AM #84 of 313
I'll be damned if Kain doesn't look like Batman. Edit: Or whoever that is that looks like Batman.

I've never really played past the beginning of FF IV, so maybe this DS version will be a good reason to. I like this style of SD characters way more than the Final Fantasy III one, though. I hope they continue using it.

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Old Aug 25, 2007, 06:08 PM Local time: Aug 26, 2007, 01:08 AM #85 of 313
I like the new screens a lot. The Ramuh summon looks nice, seems like all animations are going to get a good upgrade, since the FF3 ones looked rather bleh and boring, admittedly. Cutscenes look very well, too - I'm probably going to get it once it's being released in either English or German.

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Old Aug 26, 2007, 09:56 PM Local time: Aug 26, 2007, 07:56 PM #86 of 313
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Old Aug 26, 2007, 10:40 PM #87 of 313
Yang, Edward and Dark Knight Cecil have MP!

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 12:09 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 12:09 AM #88 of 313
wtf. Why does Yang look like a damn Moogle.

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 01:33 AM #89 of 313
I told you Moogles started on FF4

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 03:22 AM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 09:22 PM 2 #90 of 313
Amano's art is so damn depressing and old looking.

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 04:03 AM Local time: Sep 3, 2007, 09:03 AM #91 of 313
I want a FF7 remake (ya im a fanboy but meh, its a great game and I want to play it in uber 3Dness of prettyness and sexy!). If anyone has any links or info on a FF7 remake let me know, I <3'd that game so much.

Oh and why is it that if you havent played 1-6 your not a fan, but a fan boy? Just because you dont like playing the old crappy sprite games (not crap games, just crap animation) and you prefer games with a bit more visual prowess, does not make you a fan boy, it makes you someone who likes what they like, its a common geek thing that if you dont own all 15 million pieces of memorbilia, have seen the 7000 japanese underground manga's, and eaten the official product food, then you cannot be considered a true fan. Fuck off and die, I like what I like, if you wanna argue then accept the fact that your the comic book guy.

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 10:11 AM #92 of 313
No, it makes you a graphics whore.

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 10:37 AM #93 of 313
I want a FF7 remake (ya im a fanboy but meh, its a great game and I want to play it in uber 3Dness of prettyness and sexy!). If anyone has any links or info on a FF7 remake let me know, I <3'd that game so much.

Oh and why is it that if you havent played 1-6 your not a fan, but a fan boy? Just because you dont like playing the old crappy sprite games (not crap games, just crap animation) and you prefer games with a bit more visual prowess, does not make you a fan boy, it makes you someone who likes what they like, its a common geek thing that if you dont own all 15 million pieces of memorbilia, have seen the 7000 japanese underground manga's, and eaten the official product food, then you cannot be considered a true fan. Fuck off and die, I like what I like, if you wanna argue then accept the fact that your the comic book guy.
That was totally unnecessary in a thread for Final Fantasy IV for the DS.

Anyways, from the shots above, it looks A LOT like Final Fantasy III, which, while the graphics were nice, the game didn't have the kind of appeal that a lot of the other Final Fantasy games gave me (like IV, V, and VI). Hopefully, Final Fantasy IV stays true to the original mood and play the same it did originally.

Also, is that an ATB bar on the bottom screen? Final Fantasy IV didn't have bars I don't think. It started with V. But otherwise, it looks pretty good.

And hell, It's about damn time after Final Fantasy III lacked any use for the bottom screen for half the time you were playing. You actually get a map on the other screen instead of just a black screen.

I like where this game is going. Now we just have to wait for V and VI to follow suit, and we'll have a damn good showing of classic Final Fantasy on one system.

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 12:03 PM Local time: Sep 3, 2007, 10:03 AM #94 of 313
I like where this game is going. Now we just have to wait for V and VI to follow suit, and we'll have a damn good showing of classic Final Fantasy on one system.
I'll take a V DS, but if I'm getting a VI remake, I'd rather it come for PS3 or PS4 and be in like, 2015. I know this opinion won't be popular, but eh, I would enjoy that the most.

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Old Sep 3, 2007, 06:40 PM #95 of 313
They added the ATB in the GBA port/remake too. I think it was always "there", but in the background.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 01:23 AM #96 of 313
I'll take a V DS, but if I'm getting a VI remake, I'd rather it come for PS3 or PS4 and be in like, 2015. I know this opinion won't be popular, but eh, I would enjoy that the most.
I don't think FF5 or 6 DS remakes are necessary. Especially in the case of FF6, the graphics were of SNES's best. Same with the music score. Lastly, the storyline was complete the way that they intended it.

With 4's remake, they are doing a form of a "Director's Cut" and redoing the game as it was intended -- great graphics to show the drama and the full storyline that hasn't come into fruition yet. So, FF4 is the only one from the classic games that should be redone.

FF5 is unnecessary IMO because the storyline was complete, and all they would do for a remake is upgrade the graphics and make us pay to play it.

Further, FF7 should be remade on some console like the PS3 -- minimum.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 01:27 AM #97 of 313
You forget that this is Square-Enix and that FF on DS = instant lots of money. I really wouldn't put it past them. I'd really hope that as they keep enhancing this engine that they eventually make an original title with it though.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 01:36 AM #98 of 313
I doubt they'll make any original RPG.

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 01:40 AM #99 of 313
Considering they barely advertised their first original IP in years recently it wouldn't surprise me. =/

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Old Sep 4, 2007, 08:35 AM #100 of 313
Why waste the money and effort making something new and original when people will lap up the same stuff over and over?

Makes me wonder how many people own all of the remakes Squenix has thrown out.

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