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Well, I certainly hope your brother stays safe and in one piece. I don't know why, or even how, you could view 'killing all the insurgents' as victory and at the same time say the troops safety is in your best interest. That's all I'm saying.
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I never said we had to kill all the insurgents, only that time is on our side because insurgents only do what they do in order to make things hard for politicians at home.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
How can you possibly say that time is on your side with dozens of soldiers and innocent people dying on a daily basis?
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Very easily. Next question, please.
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Also if the US removes from its war, wouldn't the Saudis have something to say if Iran organised a Shiite governance for Iraq? They surely wouldn't let Iran annex Iraq. Can't really see your domino paranoia having quite the forecast effect, NP. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Alternately, he forgets how passionate people - yes, even insurgents - can be when it comes to making things difficult for politicians they don't agree with. It's a weird argument, all told. Saying that time is on our side, but then saying that we have to stick it out to the long, bitter end. No wonder he's against a timetable, that would mean making a strategy and sticking with it. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
There you go with the strawman argument bullshit, lurker.
I have nothing against developing a workable strategy for victory (because the current one is shit), but what I do have a problem with is "Ok, we're going to keep troops there until May 1st 2007 and then we're going to leave, regardless of the situation" - which is what the Democrats want. Back to the boxer analogy - it's like telling the other boxer that if you don't knock him out by the 5th round that you're going to throw in the towel. He then knows that to win, all he has to do is survive until the 6th round, at which time you will give up. He really doesn't even have to fight you anymore once he knows this - he can just cover up and absorb your blows, doing everything he can to prevent you from knocking him out. But if he knows that you're coming after him full force until you put him on the ground for the knockout, then he doesn't have that option. At some point, he knows he's going to have to have to actually beat you because you won't give up. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Even though the newly elected Democrats in Congress are more centrists, the people who hold the power are these ultra-liberals who want to make America weaker. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
troop withdrawal, even phased withdrawal won't work in the present situation, and everyone knows it. We learned it from vietnam
I was speaking idiomatically.
Hold on just one second....when I signed up for life, this was not what I was expecting. Can I get a refund?
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Harry Reid Nancy Pelosi Dick Durbin Howard Dean All of them hold positions that support the withdrawal of U.S. troops. There are likely more. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
FELIPE NO |
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well, at this point, i'm realizing that your views are such that they cannot be changed because you won't allow them to be.
all i want to say is that, though you may disagree with democrats (as i sometimes do with them, and almost always do with republicans), anti-american is just plain the wrong word. are they wrong? maybe. are they not considering all the facts? maybe. are they deliberately sabotaging our government? if they are, they aren't following the most basic democratic principles. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Would "pro-peace" be a better word than anti-American?
I think it would, anti-American implies some kind of treason. Pro-peace sounds more like what the Democrats are. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
No, Pro-Peace would not be a better word than Anti-American because it does not accurately describe the blatant refusal to even acknowledge who the enemies of the country are, let alone fight them.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
I guess we can all agree that we all just want the war to be over and those whom are responsible are punished for it
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? You know what? you just might be full enough of shit to apply for congress |
I'm curious: does the recall procedure exist on the federal level? I was speaking idiomatically. |
See, you're wrong because the Democrats can (and have) oppose Bush simply because he is Bush - that's been their de facto policy since 2001 when Bush took office.
The 2002, 2004, and 2006 elections were elections where the Democrats ran on a platform of "We're not Bush." This is what the Democratic majority in Congress is built upon - opposing George W. Bush. And the policies the Democrats advocate WILL weaken the economy significantly but they will in turn blame the weakening on Bush because he is still in office and push for even higher tax increases and even more gov't spending. And no, there is no such thing as a 'federal recall.' What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
but while they were in the opposition, they had the easy game since they were in minority. However, now that they are in power... I have some doubt on whether they will continuously oppose BUsh or not. We shall see
yes, they may have capitalize on the "we're not bush" slogan, but once in power, things prove to be difference:eyebrow: FELIPE NO |
Of course they will continuously oppose Bush - it's why they were elected. Incoming Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid see it as their mandate - anything Bush wants to do will be frustrated at every possible opportunity.
Dark days are ahead for America under Democratic leadership in the terrorism age. Which will make my national debut album, Dark America, all that more relevant when it hits shelves next September. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Well, I say "good riddance", although I have a nagging suspicion that it won't happen. But maybe it will...
Jam it back in, in the dark.
Vive le roi.
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They're saying he will be hanged by tomorrow, the latest. I just hope there's a video of it on Youtube. (Yeah, I'm a sick fuck) Most amazing jew boots |
The video probably will be on YouTube, which is really funny. I was going to make a new thread on it, but I guess this thread will fit.
Do you guys think American News Channels should broadcast the hanging? how do you guys feel about it even being on YouTube. I think that for Iraqis to see as it as proof of the death of the dictator. For Americans to broadcast it on cable or YouTube presents a few problems, no matter what happens. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Hahhaha, in before someone puts it on Youtube.
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