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Old May 11, 2006, 02:43 PM #76 of 118
Originally Posted by Sassafrass
Thats a very interesting thing for a person who hates the internet (and everyone on it) to say! I hope you see my point! <3
I hate the internet. I don't hate pornography. Porno doesn't make dumb posts about Final Fantasy games or 24 or why Rick Berman ruined Star Trek.

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Old May 11, 2006, 02:45 PM #77 of 118
Originally Posted by LeHah
I hate the internet. I don't hate pornography. Porno doesn't make dumb posts about Final Fantasy games or 24 or why Rick Berman ruined Star Trek.
See, sweetiepie, honeychile, you need to understand what I was attempting to say!

A man on the internet says "I don't need to have sex with ladies, so long as I have my porn and right hand!"

This man hates every stereotype of "internet geek" available.

The irony. It's smacking.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 11, 2006, 02:46 PM #78 of 118
Originally Posted by Sassafrass
A man on the internet says "I don't need to have sex with ladies, so long as I have my porn and right hand!"

This man hates every stereotype of "internet geek" available.
Your statement makes the incorrect assumption that you have to be an internet geek to enjoy pornography.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 11, 2006, 02:48 PM #79 of 118
Originally Posted by LeHah
Your statement makes the incorrect assumption that you have to be an internet geek to enjoy pornography.
I don't see that implied anywhere in my post(s).

Nearly every man on the face of the planet enjoys pornography. A lot of chicks too! That doesn't make them internet geeks!

But when they start saying things like "I don't need to have sex with women when I have Eva Angelina!" - THATS kind of creepy, see. Very internet-geek-esque, what with the "I have X, so I don't need sex!"

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Old May 11, 2006, 02:56 PM #80 of 118
Originally Posted by Sassafrass
But when they start saying things like "I don't need to have sex with women when I have Eva Angelina!" - THATS kind of creepy, see. Very internet-geek-esque, what with the "I have X, so I don't need sex!"
Eva Angelina doesn't bitch at me to clean the dishes or to take her out to some expensive restaraunt. She doesn't make fun of me for having so many DVDs, she doesn't talk back, doesn't say things to hurt me.

She just bends over and says "aaaaah"

So who the fuck are you to say anything, fatbody? I didn't know you were the judge of all the earth, didn't know you were here to pass sentence. Ready to throw e-rocks at me because you're some high-n-mighty bush-eating fat-fag-tag-jamrag dinosaur beast of a woman.

You pass judgement on my habits when you willing sleep with a man that could be mistaken for a horse fetus? Please, honey, adults are talking.

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Old May 11, 2006, 03:15 PM #81 of 118
Originally Posted by LeHah
Eva Angelina doesn't bitch at me to clean the dishes or to take her out to some expensive restaraunt. She doesn't make fun of me for having so many DVDs, she doesn't talk back, doesn't say things to hurt me.

She just bends over and says "aaaaah"
Next you're going to tell me that life-size, fuckable dolls from Japan are great substitutes as well, eh LeHah? <3

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So who the fuck are you to say anything, fatbody? I didn't know you were the judge of all the earth, didn't know you were here to pass sentence. Ready to throw e-rocks at me because you're some high-n-mighty bush-eating fat-fag-tag-jamrag dinosaur beast of a woman.

You pass judgement on my habits when you willing sleep with a man that could be mistaken for a horse fetus? Please, honey, adults are talking.
That would be me and who, exactly?

I'm just trying to address your problem, LeHah! This isn't an ATTACK! I know you feel attacked. Otherwise, you wouldn't have lashed out at me.

But I don't pretend to get all of my sexual gratification from my fingertips, so.

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Old May 11, 2006, 11:07 PM #82 of 118
No, Sass is right, it is lame to substitute porn for human interaction.

It's internet creepy when you justify it.

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Old May 11, 2006, 11:54 PM Local time: May 11, 2006, 08:54 PM #83 of 118
Porn doesn't simulate tactile contact (Yeah, you've got you hand, but it only goes so far, nothing like having another human body), or olfactory stimulation and it does a piss-poor job of audio-visual stimulation. Lacking in every way, I really don't see how anyone could argue that it is a viable substitute.

Then again, maybe they're more into visual stimulation than anything else.

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Old May 12, 2006, 01:32 AM #84 of 118
i waited till i was 18 before i had sex and i had a 3 year relationship with her but even if u think she's the right girl u can always get dumped or you could dump her so in the end , whats the point for waiting ?

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Old May 12, 2006, 07:36 AM Local time: May 12, 2006, 01:36 PM #85 of 118
Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell
Porn doesn't simulate tactile contact (Yeah, you've got you hand, but it only goes so far, nothing like having another human body), or olfactory stimulation and it does a piss-poor job of audio-visual stimulation. Lacking in every way, I really don't see how anyone could argue that it is a viable substitute.
People with terrible self-confidence and zero real life social skills can justify anything to themselves. Some people find it easier to persuade themselves they prefer wanking to sex than admit they're never gonna get laid anyway so the choice is out of their hands (As it were).

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 12, 2006, 02:03 PM Local time: May 12, 2006, 12:03 PM #86 of 118
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People with terrible self-confidence and zero real life social skills can justify anything to themselves.
Couldn't you use that kind of argument for any group out there? "People with XYZ problem can justify anything to themselves."

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 12, 2006, 11:58 PM Local time: May 12, 2006, 08:58 PM #87 of 118
I think there's a way to scientifically measure a healthy sex life, though. I mean, whether or not you're active, being disease free and not allowing your drive (or lack thereof) interfere with normal social function/interaction seems like a pretty ideal definition.

Determining normalcy seems kind of like a moot point, anyway.

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Old May 17, 2006, 01:34 AM Local time: May 16, 2006, 10:34 PM #88 of 118
Originally Posted by David4516
First off, I'm not sure if this is the best place for this topic or not. Mods, feel free to move it to whereever you think it should be...

Secondly a little background on why I'm about the ask the question that I'm about to ask:

I'm 24, and I still haven't had sex. I've been waiting to find that "specail someone". I don't want to just sleep with any girl. I want to actually fall in love and all that stuff. But I still haven't found a girl that I really care for...

So here is the question: How old is too old to be a virgin? At what point does it go from being a good thing to just being sad?

I get the feeling that I may have already crossed that line, but I hope not...
in turns i applaud to your idea of waiting for the right person, sadly people have obviously come up with the idea that after 40 you are just a sad sorry excuse. At the age of 24, you are long from being too old and one of my English teachers i am good friends with is almost 30 and still a virgin. It is not about how long but the reason for the wait. Obviously if you are just scared of sex that is one thing but to wait until you fall in love is something that shows that sex is not just some pass time to you [not saying that people who think otherwise are wrong]. I guess in reality there is no 'wrong age' unless you are under 20, under that is kinda young to me...

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Old May 17, 2006, 02:47 AM Local time: May 16, 2006, 11:47 PM #89 of 118
Wow, I wasn't trying to start a flame war with this topic. Honestly, you people should settle down.

Also, I want to make it clear that I don't think I have more "self control" or something just because I haven't had sex. I don't believe it makes me "better" than anyone like some virgins do.

And I didn't really think it was nessisary for me to tell you all about my sexual history (or lack there of) for us to have a decent converation about the issue in general, but since so many of you have asked I don't see any harm in telling you about it:

Yes, I do try, I do put in some effort to find myself a girlfriend. I've asked out girls before, so far they've all turned me down. Thats not to say that I've never had a girlfriend though. I did back in high school, she actually was the one who asked me out. It didn't last very long though because I was just a dumb kid back then, LOL. I also have friends who are girls, so I wouldn't say that I'm afraid of being around females or anything.

I do have some things that I feel are holding me back however. I still live with my parents (thats the only way I can still afford to go to school), I know thats not very sexy. Also, I'm a pretty quiet guy. I am not "shy", just "quiet". But because of that, alot of people seem to think (mistakenly) that I have low self-esteem. Lastly, I don't have much in common with most girls I've met. My hobbies aren't things that 95% of girls would be interested in. I'm not really into pop culture (music, for example, is something I just don't care about), and I don't drink or smoke. My interests include things like Camping, Hunting, Martial Arts (been practicing TaeKwonDo for a few years now), cars, things of that nature. Guy stuff...

Sorry, I hope my life story wasn't too boring for you guys, but you asked for it...

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:01 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 12:01 AM #90 of 118
Originally Posted by David4516
Wow, I wasn't trying to start a flame war with this topic. Honestly, you people should settle down.

Also, I want to make it clear that I don't think I have more "self control" or something just because I haven't had sex. I don't believe it makes me "better" than anyone like some virgins do.

And I didn't really think it was nessisary for me to tell you all about my sexual history (or lack there of) for us to have a decent converation about the issue in general, but since so many of you have asked I don't see any harm in telling you about it:

Yes, I do try, I do put in some effort to find myself a girlfriend. I've asked out girls before, so far they've all turned me down. Thats not to say that I've never had a girlfriend though. I did back in high school, she actually was the one who asked me out. It didn't last very long though because I was just a dumb kid back then, LOL. I also have friends who are girls, so I wouldn't say that I'm afraid of being around females or anything.

I do have some things that I feel are holding me back however. I still live with my parents (thats the only way I can still afford to go to school), I know thats not very sexy. Also, I'm a pretty quiet guy. I am not "shy", just "quiet". But because of that, alot of people seem to think (mistakenly) that I have low self-esteem. Lastly, I don't have much in common with most girls I've met. My hobbies aren't things that 95% of girls would be interested in. I'm not really into pop culture (music, for example, is something I just don't care about), and I don't drink or smoke. My interests include things like Camping, Hunting, Martial Arts (been practicing TaeKwonDo for a few years now), cars, things of that nature. Guy stuff...

Sorry, I hope my life story wasn't too boring for you guys, but you asked for it...
Yea but then again, isn't that the point of being a male? To have hobbies and interests that males have. If you think about it that might be something that women are interested in and not just the guy who is exactly like me only a different sex. As for being quiet, i am shy and quiet which is a terrible mix, i mean, i don't have terrible self-esteem but i am also quiet which makes it worse, i guess i just fix that by finding something makes me less tense and less quiet, something like jokes, if i can tell a joke and a girl laughs then i am less quiet, i began to talk more. Just find something that can get you to talk and not have a girl stare at your while calling the police.
Living with parents is only unattractive if you are lazy and have no reason otherwise. School is okay because it shows that you are dedicated to something and that by taking the chance to go to school rather than live alone and just try and wait some women can find that very attractive and a form of better juggling of priorities which shows that you can handle a relationship.

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:10 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:10 AM #91 of 118
David4516: You're out here near me aren't you? Anyway there is nothing wrong with waiting. I'm very glad that my first and only is going to be my wife very soon. 24 years of age is still very young in the grand scheme of things, you have plenty of time to find that woman out there for you. You shouldn't have trouble finding a woman who has similar interests as yourself. I think part of it might have to do with the area you are currently in. I know a bunch of women who love to do that sort of stuff. Maybe you should head down to some of the orbiting cities of the capital.

Personally speaking I sort of wish we had waited longer before going down that road. It would have made it more meaningful than it was. Then again it was the start of our relationship, so it might not have turned out the way it did.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:29 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 12:29 AM #92 of 118
Gumby, perhaps my location does have something to do with it. I have 2 close friends who never had any luck with the girls around here, but when they moved elsewhere to go to college, that changed. Actually, one of them just got married recently. They both told me that there's something wrong with the girls in this area...

I live in Beaverton by the way, right next to the Portland boarder. I've lived in Portland area for most of my life, but I don't really care for city life. I value peace and quiet, big citys make me feel a little uneasy.

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:43 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:43 AM #93 of 118
Originally Posted by David4516
Gumby, perhaps my location does have something to do with it. I have 2 close friends who never had any luck with the girls around here, but when they moved elsewhere to go to college, that changed. Actually, one of them just got married recently. They both told me that there's something wrong with the girls in this area...

I live in Beaverton by the way, right next to the Portland boarder. I've lived in Portland area for most of my life, but I don't really care for city life. I value peace and quiet, big citys make me feel a little uneasy.
Well there is your problem right there. That entire tri-county area is fucked up to no end. If you head down to Salem or out in the Dallas/Monmouth/Independance area you don't have the same problems as you do up there. Western Oregon University is a good little place. They were a dry town up until a few years ago so there isn't the big party scene like there is over at OSU. I find this to be a good thing. However Eugene is another place you wouldn't have trouble finding ladies... if you can stand the hippy thing and hairy arm pits O_o

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:48 AM #94 of 118
If you never fall in love, does this mean you will die a virgin?

Is this what you want?

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Old May 17, 2006, 10:28 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 07:28 AM #95 of 118
Originally Posted by David4516
Gumby, perhaps my location does have something to do with it. I have 2 close friends who never had any luck with the girls around here, but when they moved elsewhere to go to college, that changed. Actually, one of them just got married recently. They both told me that there's something wrong with the girls in this area...

I live in Beaverton by the way, right next to the Portland boarder. I've lived in Portland area for most of my life, but I don't really care for city life. I value peace and quiet, big citys make me feel a little uneasy.
yea, that really is your problem right there, you need to move somewhere in the city, women in the city are more prone to dating rather than the ones in the tri-country area. I don't suggest you should go 'live' at a dorm or anything but finding somewhere to stay in the city might be more useful for dating.

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Old May 17, 2006, 01:13 PM #96 of 118
David, I'm in alot similar situation as you. Except I never had a girlfriend in highschool, I had a chance to but I screwed it up. It feels like I'm the right guy in the wrong place, cause even a girl that actually had basicly everything in common with me still wouldn't date me. Instead she dated 2 jerks(Although 1 of the jerks was before I asked her out) and then turned Lesbian. I constantly see guys with no redeeming values getting girls cause girls seem to confuse an ego with confidence.

That along with my inability to get out of the dead end job I'm in cause no one ever freaking calls me has begun to put me in a f*** the world mindset.

David, since you are still going to school I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. If you don't meet someone before then, you'll have plenty of time when you're done with school and are starting a career.

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Old May 19, 2006, 01:35 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 10:35 PM #97 of 118
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yea, that really is your problem right there, you need to move somewhere in the city, women in the city are more prone to dating rather than the ones in the tri-country area. I don't suggest you should go 'live' at a dorm or anything but finding somewhere to stay in the city might be more useful for dating.
I am in the city. Well, not in it, but right next to it. If I lived 2 blocks down the street I'd have a Portland address.

Most city girls I've met only care about what kind of car you drive and what brand of clothing you wear.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old May 19, 2006, 07:31 AM Local time: May 19, 2006, 01:31 PM #98 of 118
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If you never fall in love, does this mean you will die a virgin?

Is this what you want?
There's always deathbed sympathy shags.

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Old May 19, 2006, 02:38 PM Local time: May 19, 2006, 01:38 PM #99 of 118
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If you never fall in love, does this mean you will die a virgin?

Is this what you want?
These days, that's probably the safest policy of all. 20-something is an awful early age to catch something incurable, and the risk of accidental pregnancy is a giant hassle in and of itself. Then there's the inevitible emotional entanglements involved; casual fuck buddies simply do not remain so for very long. Outside of religion, there's a lot of compelling arguments for saving oneself for marriage.

Thought the deathbed pity fuck idea isn't a bad one.

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Old May 19, 2006, 03:10 PM Local time: May 19, 2006, 05:10 PM #100 of 118
Plenty of men wait until their 30s until getting married and such. Your 20s can be spent pimping. Well seriously, you're just 24, I wouldn't worry about it.

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