What do guys notice in a girl?

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

Your first wife? Are you planning on getting a second one sometime soon or what? Here's a tip: Never refer to your wife as your "first wife" if you're planning on keeping her.

No, he lives in Colorado City, Arizona, where everyone runs a construction company and has multiple wives, and comes into Best Buy every Sunday asking "Do y'all have any AH-pods left?"

Ahem.

DWA, there are a few things I've realized lately about how women perceive men, and they kind of translate the other way around too - I just never realized it.
First of all, though... a person is born with what they've got. You're either ugly, attractive, or average. Duh. Most people are average-looking, very few people are truly UGLY, and about the same amount are naturally breathtakingly beautiful. Learning how to WORK with what you've got to MAKE it look more attractive is key. This is evidenced by all those celebrities and models that look like crap before they're fully awake. And the fact that I had no style at all when it came to clothes, and now I get compliments left and right on how well-dressed I am. Which has nothing to do with expensive clothing, cause I can't afford that. But it does have to do with distinctive style.

Before I go any further, I must stress that my favorite type of woman looks like this:
Between 5' and 6'
Anywhere between 120-180 lbs (e.g. not toothpick-thin, but no huge fat-rolls... just average)
Butt that's there but not huge
Boobs that are there but not huge (B-C cup, anyone?)
Nice teeth (not perfect teeth, just teeth that are taken care of)
Natural hair, longer is usually better, down not up, ponytails are hot
Little to no makeup
T-shirt and jeans or something equally comfortable, something that suits her if she meets the above characteristics.

Simple and natural. Yum.

Style isn't defined by expensive clothes, it's defined by how what you wear looks ON YOU, to other people. My advice to a girl would be much the same as my advice to a guy - if you wanna know what to wear, get someone of the opposite sex who has STYLE to take you shopping FOR YOU ... try on everything they suggest even if you're not sure of it.

So what do guys look for in a woman? The same thing women look for in men. Style, confidence, fun. If you're energetic and passionate, sufficiently unique compared to most, and you've got a generally appealing style, you can seem attractive - and then if you engage in entertaining good conversation, you can't do much more. If I meet a girl like that, I'm sold.

As for beneath the physical... well, you can't judge a woman based off of anything beneath the surface until you get to know her, so it's impossible to say what guys LOOK FOR that way. However what they like to come across when getting to know a woman, is in a way exactly the same as the physical - stylish, confident, fun. Energetic. Passionate. Unique. Intelligent.

Well, except those guys who just want sex and don't want to talk. Then you need to have a good body and no personality.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel

1- If looks can be deceiving, then why don't some people get to those who aren't 'hot' or 'sexy'? What's wrong with the average looking one? It's one argument that came up in our class. If you know that you can't always base someone's personality off their looks, then why do you do it? It is human nature but why not just TRY to get to know the girl that's not as pretty?

2- How does a woman in fine clothing suggest intellect? I disagree. I wear the most casual comfortable clothes I can yet I graduated with over a 4.0 GPA and so far my grades in my classes (I'm at the University now) are straight A's. It may show success... she has money and can afford or she could be going in debt with her credit card(s) while shopping.

1- Because an average person blends in, and thus is why they tend to be overlooked. When you are walking by a group of women, chances are the first one to catch your eye will be the one that stands out more. While walking down a busy street, I will study those whom I deem most interesting, since the time i have to study is limited.

As for sexy, it's a natural thing to be first looking at the one that is attractive, it's human biology. It doesn't mean that the very attractive one will be the one I speak to. On the other hand, chances are I won't be speaking to the one in the corner wearing the sweat pants either. This isn't because I think she is ugly or unintelligent, but simply because she won't draw enough attention to get my mind to think about her, unless she seems out of place. In which case I would probably crack a smile and wish I could do that sometimes. As Ayos stated, confidence is key. Those with confidence make it known, and often dress for it.

2- It depends upon your definition of intelligence. I know some extremely intelligent people whom have no idea that there exist pieces of clothing that don't portray some video game character. While you are right in saying that a woman dressed in very fine business attire may just be putting on a show while driving up her credit limit, she could also have a very good job and lots of success. Same could be true for the one wearing jeans. That is why we will talk to people, and even date them before getting into a serious relationship. That girl sitting in the corner wearing sweatpants may in fact be a super genius with an excellent job, but what has she done to draw any of my attention? There are different types of intelligence, it doesn't mean that you cannot succeed without straight A's in school. It all depends on the field you are in.

You asked what it was that I noticed in a girl. I just stated that although I know as well as many that looks can be deceiving, that it is all we have to go on. Most people dress to express themselves.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I agree. People dress to express themselves. I dress casually, expressing I'm layed back, pretty much worry-free, relaxed, wanting to have fun... but when I see a girl who's dressed in those fasion outfits (that cost a lot of money) it's like "i'm high maintence". I don't know. Those girls dressed like that, at least when I was in high school, had the most "It's all about me" personalities. Then they got the boys and it's like "How? They are too into themselves" It's strange to me. And if it's because they aren't like that around their boyfriends, why the mask?

One day in high school this guy was like "There is no way you are the same person at home that you are in school" but I am. I'm the same person online that I am offline. I don't like wearing masks.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel

I agree. People dress to express themselves. I dress casually, expressing I'm layed back, pretty much worry-free, relaxed, wanting to have fun... but when I see a girl who's dressed in those fasion outfits (that cost a lot of money) it's like "i'm high maintence". I don't know. Those girls dressed like that, at least when I was in high school, had the most "It's all about me" personalities. Then they got the boys and it's like "How? They are too into themselves" It's strange to me. And if it's because they aren't like that around their boyfriends, why the mask?

One day in high school this guy was like "There is no way you are the same person at home that you are in school" but I am. I'm the same person online that I am offline. I don't like wearing masks.

Judging by the description of yourself, I would have judged you as a laid back person contempt with the way things are going, with not much desire for anything to change. I would probably also figure you to already be in a relationship. I'll be honest though, the "wanting to have fun" part would be the last thing I would figure someone of your description. Rarely do I meet outgoing women whom dress in plain clothes. those in loose comfortable attire are generally conservative and laid back.

As for the expensive high fashion ones, my mind screams *stay away*, fortunately it's rare that this wrong. It's those that dress in more professional clothing that interests me.

But then again, this was suppose to be a question of WHAT do I notice about a girl, not try to theorize the difference between how one dresses and their personality and life style.

FELIPE NO

I think that girls make up and get enoticeable to "enchant" guys. So they womanise cuz there's a plenty of beauties. People are unable to detect the inside => they focus on the apparent.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Long legs, large breast, bared midriff are all very nice but what really knocks you over is a smile

Jam it back in, in the dark.

zergkiller likes Amazons with only one large breast. Me, I prefer that my females keep both of them, but if one is gone, I can make do. Because there are plenty of other great qualities in wemon.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by zergkiller

Long legs, large breast, bared midriff are all very nice but what really knocks you over is a smile

Marking for post of the year reasons.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

physically....I think that guys subconsciously pick girls who are healthy...full breasts and nice hips indicate fertility and could be a factor in what guys notice first about girls.....personally I notice eyes and smiles - i also like girl with chipmunk sorta lookin cheeks...makes them look cuter - personally speaking of course lol

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

When i first meet a girl, i see more of the face and hair and smile. Then it depends on personality from there. Not trying to be shallow, just it's how it works for me.

I was speaking idiomatically.

You know, I actually think clothes do play a part in basic attraction. The way someone dresses is important to me. I'd probably be more attracted to someone who is able to dress in a way that matches and accentuates their natural figure.

Also, I wish people wouldn't call themselves or others shallow when what we're talking about here is first impression attraction; you're not going to know if she's a bitch or he's a bastard just by looks.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I agree with thinking that how you dress is a big part of attraction. I don't want to be talking or approaching someone who looks like crap. Looks play more of a part in things than people want to admit. I swear when I ask people what they look for in the opposite sex they always say things like good personality, but how are you supposed to know if that person has a good personality right off the bat anyway.

You're definitely more likely to approach a person who looks good as opposed to looking crappy. I know it sounds mean, but I hardly meander my way to people who just do not look good. Granted that I hardly pull myself together to make myself look smashing anyway XD. I just about never put on makeup, and I tend to just throw on the t-shirt that's on the top of the pile each day. Hypocrite anyone? XP

FELIPE NO

Thanks for the link ElectricSheep I thought that was what happened but it's nice to see video evidence for a change because it's so easy to confused reality with fiction these days.

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder however seems people go with what's generally accepted. As a guy it's easy to get drawn in on looks I won't deny it, I know people who will try and further their careers on looks and there are celebritys who aruguebly failed at everything else and have made a name for themselves just on those same 'looks' and guys fall for it hook line and sinker *cough* Paris Hilton! *cough* at the end of the day looks are only a bonus which leaves us later anyway, it's more about your sense of style and personality.

If anyone finds it hard to believe how overated woman looks can be just look at the internet! How much of the traffic is porn?! XD it's all a mixure of animal instincts and bloody confusing fantasy with reality. I think how much attention you pay to looks is to do with who are the kinda people you want to attract.

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*donates two pennies* =3

What a person wears is a big role. I mean, if you find a guy with dirty clothes, or a girl that's dresses pretty slutty... your relationship isn't going to last so long. Why? A dirty look would eventually bring irritation, and a slutty look would eventually result in losing trust.

I mean, I know I wouldn't want my girlfriend dressing all slutty, or with a short skirt to a party. Sure, she can dress as pretty as she want, but not slutty.

What I notice on a girl is not her looks. Honestly, I can date a fat girl for all I care. So long as her person-hood is pleasant to be around with, I'm happy. And yes, I've dated a girl well over my weight. But she had the prettiest smile I've ever seen, yet.

My way of thinking, is the following: A girl can be very pretty and attractive, but it's her way of being that would make her the most beautiful of all.

How ya doing, buddy?

a long beautifull well kept head of hair! Youve got that and you already have my attention...I dont know why im a sucker for girls with long hair.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I took a class on the subject of "hot" and what I can say is that it's the media's unfair portrayal of women. Barbie, for example, is physically impossible. And anything that I can say would be not to try to be those girls on TV. You just can't win, and us guys think it's kind of icky.

I like long hair as much as anybody on this forum, but I like shoulder-length hair, too, mainly because it looks nicer and shows a sense of style, something that I like very much. And of course I drool over the few "perfect" girls around, but by perfect I mean the following:

-Having an air of entitlement. You can't have me = :O. Just don't be too aggressive.
-Having a sense of style (Doing something either simple or different, both is awesome). Most of all, make sure you're comfortable in your clothes, because if it's restricting anything, we just can't relate. Obviously.
-Not looking like they chuck, sorry to say, but that's usually kind of gross. I like them thin, but not breakable.
-Smile, darn you! That's one for the money, right there. Many a girl I stopped liking because they looked like they were having a bad day, 24/7.
-Not pretending to look pretty, like the girls that put on their makeup with a paintbrush just looks scary. And it's true-us guys don't notice makeup very much. Out school had a "no-makeup day" and nobody looked any different.
-Nothing revealing enough that we feel naughty looking at you. If it was in Men in Black II, don't wear it in public.

Personality wise, we love:
-Smarts
-Respect (but not submission)
-Humor
-Yeah, we'll listen to you, but listen to us every once in a while, too.

The best advice I can give is to be a step or two below perfect. Don't do your best. Perfect just alienates us.

Just remember: you can't please all of us, but if there's one you suspect to looking at you more ofter than not, find out pronto and ask him out. We're much too scared with all the big jock-types to even give a try. Waiting will only give you sadness.

Written by a knowlegable High Schooler.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Hmm.

Strictly on looks
First of all I like when girls dress like girls. Not like a man, and not like a whore. There's a ton of stuff in between so seeing a girl in baggy pants and a tshirt is annoying. First things I notice because they're what I like best would be: 1. Hair. I'm not as obsessed with it being long on girls anymore, even see a few girls with really short hair that I can consider hot. Don't like it too thin though, thick is always good. Tend to stray towards anything but yellow blonde. After that just the general physique of the girl. Mainly chest, not too big or too small. Waist, which as long as it isnt huge I don't care too much about. A little ASS is nice, but ultimately one of the last physical things I care about. I notice height a lot, but could care less really as long as she's shorter than me. And as long as she takes care of her face I'm not too critical about looks.

Personality
Willing to show her sense of humor. Nothing forced, and not too uptight. Sometimes I love serious/angry girls because of the challenge, but this gets old quick if it goes on too long. Other than that I like a girl that isn't fucking ignorant, and that is outgoing but can stick around home with me too.

Of course, not all of this is necessary for me to be happy.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by neus

Of course, every desperate faggot in the book is going to come in here and claim they don't care about breast size or body shape or clothes or make-up - and same goes for girls. Get over yourselves. I look for all those because they turn me on. That doesn't mean I am a shallow fuckstick that picks females based on looks - it means that I am acknowledging my sexuality by saying that I want to fuck a hot female.

I'm also equally turned on by a girl that is funny, in control, studying something that challenges her, has self-respect and self-esteem, can lead me, knows where she is going beyond a job after university, can debate passionately and intelligently, and doesn't need to be the centre of attention to feel accepted - I am acknowledging my need for intellectual stimulation in a relationship by saying that.

Now you'll say that a girl that has both of those is incredibly rare and I'll slap you before you're done. There are plenty of girls like this - it takes a bit of self-confidence and personality to approach them and they are by no means rare. Equally, there are plenty of guys like this.

It's just a matter of not being lazy. A lot of guys (and girls) would be far more attractive if they stopped being so damned lazy and got their shit together. Started reading books, going to the gym, and getting good grades. Nothing is less attractive to me than a girl that has the potential to rock my socks off but is squandering it aimlessly by being lazy and unfocused.

Morons that claim to "look for personality only because looks are skin-deep" are just as shallow themselves. I have a dick and I am turned on by a nice ass. There is nothing wrong with that. It's wrong to be turned on by that ass regardless of the brain that is attached to it, true, but saying that I shouldn't be attracted to it at all is brainwashed hogwash.

I really like this definition. It's not so much that guys only care about 'looks'; they care about whether or not a girl can take care of herself. Or about total intellectual giants, but a girl who lolzhatesreading isn't worth much of a damn.

I'd imagine it's the same with women on men, too.

There are still some guys out there who I am SURE don't care about intelligence and only looks, and vice versa, but those are jackasses and losers, respectively.

Laziness is the ultimate turn-off.

I was speaking idiomatically.

i agree with the theory of "face then body"

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Obviously I notice physical features first, because I see them before I talk to them, unless it's somekind of odd arrangement like I know them through friends and talk to them on the phone or through e-mail, first.

I think a lot of it has to do with the way a woman carries herself, too. Personality is part of that. Shitty personality is obviously a deal breaker. Being shy is fine, but sometimes being really nice makes it hard for me to perceive their feelings, which is sort of a turn off. Then again, being intelligent and open is really important to me, it's something I strive to foster within myself.

I can't really say one way or another on make-up, some girls make the make-up work really well for them. I don't think anyone should hold it against a woman (or a man for that matter) trying to compliment their appearance. If it's a dating situation, it shows that they care enough to present themselves. Another obvious point: wearing a lot of make-up in most cases is a huge turn-off.

I can point to one recent case with someone I know from work, she has a badass personality, but a lot of the guys at work don't find her attractive, for whatever reason (I personally thought that she had a cute face and great hair, but...). She came to the Christmas party we had for the command, and she was absolutely stunning. She had a just a little bit of mascara and some eye-shadow/liner, but she cleaned up better than anything I could describe in words, it made me weak in the knees when she came up and greeted me.
I guess it's because she and I got a long so well at work, and like I said, she's a little badass, so there was already the personality click.

Hair is another big thing with me, I tend to like women with rich color, whether it's blonde, black, brown, red like hair that makes you want to run your fingers through it, before you kiss her. I'm also kind of not picky about whether it's long or short. I do find the hair the conceals one side of the face very attractive and playful.

As far as body, I'm not terribly picky, although I do like a good pair of mammories, but that's not always the case. Big boobs can look ridiculous, too. Curves to compliment the frame, I guess. I don't like fat frames, pudge is nice actually, but the "Yeah, I just ate six cheeseburgers... for breakfast" look doesn't do it for me. Partly because I used to be heavy, and I lead a more active outgoing lifestyle, now, so I'd want someone who'd like to that kind of thing. Plus, she's gotta look nice in fishnets and leather, because Rocky Horror isn't the same without them.

Yeah, I am kinda picky, more picky than I probably let on. Then again, I know women are, too. I know I get judged by my looks, a lot (because I'm not the most attractive guy around, no matter how much I work-out or dress to impress, there's no cure for a jacked-up face). So, I try to make up for it by being fun to be around (and sensually satisfying).

How ya doing, buddy?

Legs, face and hair. Personality-wise, really laid back and independent. Those are the basics for me. The rest can come and go depending on the girl for all I care.

lol long-winded posts r boring

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Eyes. Those are the first things about them that draws me in. And what will keep me drawn in is thier type of attitude. The ones with good sense of humor get my attention pretty fast.

How ya doing, buddy?

Decent looks are a must, but for me the most important thing is that they have an 'edge' or darker side to their personality. By edge I mean things like they're reckless, or slightly obsessive about something or both. They also need to be creative rather than practical, or else our conversations seem to go out of sync about 3 minutes in.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

How are girls not shallow? The correct answer is all people are shallow on some level. It's not gender biased. Get over yourself.

I just wanted to stop buy and agree here. Her post was obviously not thought out very well. This "Hot subject" goes both ways. SO before any gender bashes the other, think about how you and/or your friends live your life/lives.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

When I first meet a girl (or just see one walking down the street), I first notice if she has a cute face. Everything else is just secondary; however another thing I factor in is in fact, her clothes.

I'm not saying that girls need to dress in skirts and a tank top all the time, not at all. I do find it extremely unattractive when a girl takes little care of her appearance when she dresses. If you look like you just got out of bed in the morning by wearing baggy sweatpants and shower shoes, then it tells me a little about your personality. If you can't put a little effort into your appearance, then I don't see how you'd put more effort into a relationship/personality.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?