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What an awesome episode!
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There was a theory I read somewhere [but I can't find the link anymore] that said something about the island being stuck in a constant time loop, in the year 2004. The loop was 'broken' when Desmond turned the key under the Swan station, thus 'starting time' once again on the island. This might be why Ben was 'disoriented' by time.
It went into way more detail than that [along with many others] and was pretty believeable. If I find the link again I'll definitely post it here. Also, I'm curious about a few things: What was really in the room that Ben entered before Smokey appeared? What is at The Temple station? And of course, the age-old... What exactly IS Smokey? [edit] Found it! Took some digging, but here it is. It's a decent read, albeit a bit of a long one. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Hey, wow, this episode was veeeeeeeeeeeery good -- I was pleasently suprised! There is a lot of room for a new story now. Benjamin Linus vs. Charles Whitmore, that's going to be awesome.
And I wonder when the hell they gonna give Hurley a new t-shirt. Most amazing jew boots |
Why is everyone so pleased where this show is going. Seriously. Ever week, I get more and more angry.
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I will, however, continue to watch it despite all my negativity. Why? Because I feel emotionally connected to the survivors and I want to see what happens. I am sure to be disappointed, though. I think they bit off way more than they can chew here. They should have stuck to simple intrigue. Now, we're lost in a war between two retarded men (Whitmore and Linus), who seemingly pit these pawns against each other. This is not why I loved the show. I don't care about a Charlie's Angels scenario, I don't care who the good guy or bad guy is - I PLAIN DON'T CARE. Every OTHER thing I watch usually boils down to this typical duality, and I had hopes that Lost would be about something more. Poor Sayid. I sympathize with him so hard. LAST GRIPE, I SWEAR: I am aware that this latest gap in episodes (for the sixteen episode season) was due to the writer's strike, but if they keep trying to reel people in and then give them breaks which are so long and with a show going rapidly downhill, I suspect they're going to lose a lot of their fan basis. So I am a bitter, bitter person. Shoot me. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Je ne sais pas, madame, mais je pense que vous êtes en retard.
I dunno, but what we are experiencing I think is the very best you can hope for after three and a half seasons. I mean, what the hell, do you want them to run and search for more hatches or, I dunno, do you wait for Bernhard to confess that in fact - haha - he is Aaron's father or something like that? This island/real world - past/present storyline is excellent and I find myself enjoying this season to its full extent. I won't shoot you, though, I don't hurt women! Jam it back in, in the dark. |
I don't care much for the gentlemen's war either. I was hoping to see how there could a purpose for each character to be on the island to make some difference in the outcome, but as of now they could all be killed easily and their lives will have no meaning at all.
As for Alex's death, isn't it Ben's fault for telling Keamy that she wasn't his real daughter? If there was a "family = hands off" rule, Ben shouldn't have bluffed him. And now Ben is whining about changing the rules. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
What really irks me about this season is the focus on time travel. It's obviously a diversion as to the importance of the island. It's still interestingly handled for sure, but let's get back to the faith based aspects of it, eh?
It's kinda hilarious how they mucked up on the development of three characters over the past couple seasons and just decided MERCENARIES KILL 'EM. There were many plot threads pulled on this past episode, some more recent, some dating back to the first episode. Ben sicked the smoke monster on his pursuers and the result heavily resembled what was heard and seen in the pilot. What was the thing going apeshit on like that when they all first crashed? Also hilarious, the three red shirt never seen before extras being offed. I almost couldn't believe it. One would serve as a nice inside joke as to the random disposable survivors, two is pushing it, three is just absurd. As was the swelling music during Ben's radio speech to Keamy. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? so they may learn the glorious craft of acting from the dear leader |
The extras being offed was remarkably dumb. That entire action scene was as stupid as it gets. 3 bullets kills 3 people, yet a flurry of gunfire can't even fucking touch Sawyer when he's running in front of a white picket fence? Yeah, okay.
Other than that baffling scene, everything was great. Glad to see smokey come back, with a hint that maybe we'll find out more about it in the coming weeks with Jacob. Pumped... This season is by far my fave. And Sass, good news - We get to watch the finale together in Maine <3 How ya doing, buddy? |
Sawyer was totally out of character too, that was weird and kind of annoying. Decent episode otherwise.
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Also, I don't think the time travel thing is just being pulled out of nowhere. I think it'll definitely play a big part later on and I've been waiting for them to bring it up in the show. I'm having a lot of fun with the show and I'm interested to see where the new developments will lead. I think a lot of people get disgruntled with the show simply because they have to wait so damn long to get answers. I do care about the answers and what is going to happen to the characters, but I'm not going to get bitter while waiting. FELIPE NO |
Who the fuck ELSE has changed on the island? I think the point is that people still fall victim to their traits they had on the mainland - while being offered a chance to change, they often revert right back to who they are. Jack hasn't changed, Kate hasn't changed, Jin and Sun haven't changed - NO ONE has been able to free themselves from their own past. And for some reason, Sawyer is now a loveable and caring guy? What kind of drugs are you ON? I think your excuse is a vehement excuse for the show and it's slacking lately. Even if you WERE right, they'd have had to address this "change" in Sawyer. If anything, he should go the opposite way (and NOT call people "sweetheart") due to his murdering Locke's dad. They made it very clear to the audience that this was NOT a positive thing for Sawyer. Are you telling me they're writing this event off, and changing his attitude in the wind without substantiation? What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
The action sequence was no different from any other show/movie. Jack Bauer dodges hundreds of bullets in one day yet people don't bat an eye. If anything, you should be making fun of Claire surviving a direct hit from an RPG on her house.
Sass, the transition of Sawyer was seen all the way back in season 2. It was just that stupid character arc of him being "the new sheriff" that ruined all of that. More recently, Through the Looking Glass showed that he is looking out for other characters on the show. I, too, thought that the death of Cooper would be a dark turn for the character, but instead it has relieved him of his baggage. It could have gone either way, and who knows, he might relapse. It looks like they've been hanging out with Aaron, so is it so hard to believe that he would want to save the mother of the baby? I agree season 4 hasn't been my favorite, but it might be because I don't like the whole freighter saga. Stupid tricks such as the one they pulled in Ji Yeon (flashforward and flashback) make me wonder whether they are taking this set deadline seriously or not. Seaon 4 is MUCH more balanced than season 3, though. That season had amazing individual episodes, but the overall story arc was bland. Season 4 is really not bad, Sass. You're letting your fears get the best of you. Also, Jin has changed significantly. So have Claire, Hurley and Desmond. Are we watching the same show? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Elegy, I think Sass is being too harsh (some characters did change, others not so much) and you bring up some good points... yes, Sawyer is changing a bit. But that still didn't mean he's some sort of selfless hero now. Sawyer will help out the others when he's got nothing better to do, or when he has ulterior, more selfish motives, but it's not like him to simply risk his life and run past bullets just to save the girl. Kate, maybe, depending on circumstances, but he's hardly ever spoken to Claire now has he?
Also remember when Kate asked him (paraphrased here) "what are you doing, Sawyer?" when he decided to go with Locke, and Sawyer responded, "doing what I've always been doing... survivin'." Dodging bullets to save a possibly doomed girl is not exactly "surviving". Hence, it's out of character. rockthepartay: dodging bullets is typical of 24, and people expect this kind of action in 24. What was silly in that sequence in Lost is that not only it didn't really fit, but it felt completely forced, what with the three red shirts being offed one after the other (is there anyone who didn't LOL at that? seriously?) and then Sawyer not only behaving like Jack Bauer, but also the fact that there are bulletproof picnic tables now... c'mon, it was a silly sequence that didn't fit at all, we can admit it. And yes, Claire surviving that shot was also silly (and also predictable). There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Not only that, but I would resist the change of Sawyer. Maybe I am presently. I don't want another nicey-nice on the goddamn island. We have Jack for that. If you're right, Ben must be sucking up all the evil on the island - it would make sense. ^_^
While I don't want static characters, I would appreciate reasons for dynamic characters. You can't expect me to bond with Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Locke, or anyone else unless I understand who they are and why they have become that way. I no longer sympathize with many of the characters. I'm considering not watching because of it. The characters were established in season and and parts of season 2, I understand. Maybe I am demanding too much of what I think is the best TV show I've ever seen.
Hurley is just as batty as he was when they got there and Des is changed how? How ya doing, buddy? |
As far as other characters that have grown and evolved since arriving on the island (some more than others), Kate has grown up quite a bit and in some ways has stopped constantly running away, as illustrated by her recent flashforward and allowing herself to become closer to Sawyer. While she's still a sort of fugitive from herself in many ways, she's grown a lot since the crash. Charlie obviously went through quite a bit of development over his addiction to heroine, his feelings for Claire and her baby, his relationship with Locke, and his resentment toward his brother and subsequent view of himself. All of that had changed quite a bit over the course of the show since the pilot. Hurley has also developed quite a bit since the beginning with regards to his oft feeling free of his Numbers curse and the fear of responsibility that he developed prior to said curse which were greatly worsened afterward. Jin is learning English. Beyond that there's the fact that he's REALLY warmed up to the rest of the survivors. In the the beginning he wouldn't so much as look at any of them and approved even less of Sun having any association with them at all. He's now perhaps the most loyal to the group as a whole next to Jack, willing to risk his life for everyone and nearly dying in the process, and relying on Sun as his liaison to communicate. The list goes on and on and on...The island has been a healing experience for many of those that come to it. They TRIED VERY HARD to emphasize this with Rose's flashback, but I guess either the message was too nuanced or you just plain don't like change. Over time nearly every character has had to confront their past and have had to move past it on several occasions.
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On AOTS tonight, Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof said that...
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But they didn't say anything further than that, so we don't know exactly when in the LOST timeline it's going to be. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Tonight's ep.
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That's all. Good episode! How ya doing, buddy? |
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At the same time, I should probably add some POSITIVE to this episode before I get jumped on by the fans: Spoiler:
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Wow, I totally expected someone like Bernhard to step out of the shower, but instead, it's just her. How boring.
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I had a theory that Charlie's ghost is possessing Sawyer. That's the only way to explain his overly protective behaviour towards Claire.
I mean sure, he's becoming nicer and all, but getting all angry and defensive just because Miles is "looking", giving a "restraining order"? What? Hahaha. How ya doing, buddy? |
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