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Old Sep 11, 2006, 03:28 PM #926 of 1941
Originally Posted by immp
Are you running the tbc sandbox before running BC?
Of course! :P

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 04:21 PM Local time: Sep 11, 2006, 02:21 PM #927 of 1941
Originally Posted by dagget
It's always free. No DKP in our runs.

I didn't do a too bad job healing with me not being Restore. (Elemental/Enhanced) My only problem was getting out of mana way too fast, even from lesser healing waves. I'll probably respec today, since I'm 57 and really don't need much more to level
You're a suicide build? =o

Trust me and wait until 60 to respec. And might I suggest a 30/0/21 or 0/30/21 build? Those two allow you Nature's Swiftness, which, IMO, is a must-have talent for raiding, and allows you to maintain a decent PVP capability. If you're going to be focusing more on raiding than PVP, then you might also consider the Enhancement build because it allows you to farm efficiently with little to no downtime. If you're going to be raiding exclusively and/or there's no Healing Way specced shaman running, however, you'd most likely be best off going with a 0/5/46 build and getting all the goodies Resto has to offer, as much as I am loathe to admit it.

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Mana Stream totems are pathetic compared to paladins wisdom. I guess for shamans it's good that you guys get paladins, but on the other hand, you might lose raid spots because they are better more effecient healers.

I think it's a bad move from blizzard personally to get rid of the only thing that seperated the horde and alliance.
Eh, you're thinking in terms of today's raiding. 25-mans are going to most likely result in a very high demand for hybrids, and pallies and shammies are being shifted more or less to the point where the only thing they have in common is a healing spell. If blizzard pulls it off right, then both are going to have their place: Paladins will be needed for tanking (personally, I hope that they're made as effective yet different from warrior tanking, myself, and the preview of their snap-aggro spell looks to accomplish that), and shammies will be needed for DPS... although they need to work on that a little bit. Giving us a 20% natural aggro reduction deep in Enhancement, an Evocate copy-cat or the like deep in Elemental, and an aggro wipe like other classes either already have or are getting would go a LONG way to accomplishing this. Our 41-pointers need buffing BADLY, too. Totem of Wrath translates to about 1.25% crit, and Unleashed Rage, under the most generous and unlikely of circumstances, basically translates into a free major mana potion. With Judgement of Wisdom, it's... okay, but I'd rather not have to rely on another person's proc for my own viability.

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 05:04 PM #928 of 1941
Nah, I just went 0/11/38 (probably will go the full 40 when I hit 60) This is just because this shaman will be my main raiding character with this guild I'm running MC and BWL soon with. Of course, I want to run BWL with my warrior, because well I like wrath~

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 06:32 PM Local time: Sep 11, 2006, 04:32 PM #929 of 1941
Ten Storms helps with keeping Ancestral Fortitude up at all times. I didn't see why ten storms needed crit until I saw Patchwerk and co.

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 08:20 PM #930 of 1941
Paladins tanking is the end of the world. Please let that not happen!

You hordie warriors are going to feel the pain of losing plate to loladins soon as well. Your precious days of plate = warrior are soon over. I wouldn't mind if it's a competent paladin, but 99% of the paladins I saw that went for everything that had plate in it, were complete morons.

I can Heal! Need that plate!
I can Tank! Need that plate!
I can do damage! (lol) Need that plate!

Yes, there's plenty of them. Everytime I see a paladin with the best dps plate gear and a dark edge of insanity I cry IRL.

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Old Sep 11, 2006, 10:50 PM #931 of 1941
Yeah, that's going to suck ass. I'm going to hate being in those runs.

I was searching for BC videos. Apparently Blizz went on a massive deleting spree and got rid of a bunch, including one of what the BE mount looked like.

However I did find this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25958707148090

Inside Kharazan. OMFG. I SOOOOOOOOOO want to go exploring in that place really bad. is this one of the areas accessible from the Sandbox?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 12:31 AM Local time: Sep 11, 2006, 10:31 PM #932 of 1941
Yeah. The place is fucking ridiculously huge.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 03:02 AM Local time: Sep 12, 2006, 01:02 AM #933 of 1941
Originally Posted by Xellos
Paladins tanking is the end of the world. Please let that not happen!

You hordie warriors are going to feel the pain of losing plate to loladins soon as well. Your precious days of plate = warrior are soon over. I wouldn't mind if it's a competent paladin, but 99% of the paladins I saw that went for everything that had plate in it, were complete morons.

I can Heal! Need that plate!
I can Tank! Need that plate!
I can do damage! (lol) Need that plate!

Yes, there's plenty of them. Everytime I see a paladin with the best dps plate gear and a dark edge of insanity I cry IRL.
Luckily I'm a warrior and guild master

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 12, 2006, 04:22 AM Local time: Sep 12, 2006, 02:22 AM #934 of 1941
Heh, you better pray then that Blizzard doesn't force raids to bring tankadins along then by requiring massive healing one fight and massive tanking the next.

Which may very well happen, given the direction they seem to be taking.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 06:41 AM #935 of 1941
Originally Posted by dagget
Inside Kharazan. OMFG. I SOOOOOOOOOO want to go exploring in that place really bad. is this one of the areas accessible from the Sandbox?
As far as I know its not. I dont have the co-ords to get in and I havent seen them anywhere =(
I cant wait to step into that place...a 5 man saved instace I can do with my closest friends, how cool is that?

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 07:58 AM Local time: Sep 12, 2006, 10:58 PM #936 of 1941
More realm downtime again...except this time its every single realm...

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when our time is up, when our lives are done, will we say we've had our fun?
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Old Sep 12, 2006, 08:09 AM #937 of 1941
Originally Posted by midais
More realm downtime again...except this time its every single realm...

Yeah, it's called "Tuesday Maitenance" Every Tuesday...

Originally Posted by immp
As far as I know its not. I dont have the co-ords to get in and I havent seen them anywhere =(
I cant wait to step into that place...a 5 man saved instace I can do with my closest friends, how cool is that?
Unless they changed it, Kharazan is 10 man. That's still 100x better than 40 though :P

Yeah. The place is fucking ridiculously huge.
I can't wait to see what purpose the Chess Room will be...and the Observatory looks cool as fuck.

Jam it back in, in the dark.


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Old Sep 12, 2006, 08:47 AM Local time: Sep 12, 2006, 11:47 PM #938 of 1941
Heh, completely forgotten the Tuesday Maintenance, after all the regular downtimes Bleeding Hollow and the BC downtimes lately...

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 09:12 AM #939 of 1941
Originally Posted by midais
Heh, completely forgotten the Tuesday Maintenance, after all the regular downtimes Bleeding Hollow and the BC downtimes lately...
lol. Yeah, Thunderhorn had it's fair share of down time the past week. ._.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 09:14 AM #940 of 1941
Originally Posted by dagget
Unless they changed it, Kharazan is 10 man. That's still 100x better than 40 though :P
Ah ok, I was confusing it with hellfire. !0 man at lvl 70...I wonder if it will be like ubrs or if it will have endgame tier items.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 09:56 AM #941 of 1941
Originally Posted by immp
Ah ok, I was confusing it with hellfire. !0 man at lvl 70...I wonder if it will be like ubrs or if it will have endgame tier items.
Kharazan is supposed to be where some of the expansions really good shit drops. I think it may be Tier 4, not too sure. If it is, I'm willing to be you need the T3 to upgrade it. I sorta hope that it has it's own distinctive Tier though, for the fact the warrior T4 armor looks sweet, if in fact what I've seen is true.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 01:24 PM #942 of 1941
wow, some of you guys are lucky... wish i could be in the alpha ;/ hell, even to play it offline!

and im on Whisperwind, which is offline all day today.. again!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Sep 13, 2006, 05:30 AM #943 of 1941
I found the Blood Elf mount... holy fucking shit. It looks awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIO3shT941A

Moer liek a Pheonix than Cockatrice amirite.

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 05:48 AM Local time: Sep 13, 2006, 03:48 AM #944 of 1941
Pretty sure that isn't the regular BE mount. As of yet, I don't think anybody in the alpha has leveled a blood elf high enough to purchase their level 40 mount, and if they have, they haven't said anything.

If anything that will be the flight path mount when flying from Blood Elf towns and territories. The fact that it would simply hover alone makes it pretty dumb to begin with, I mean it's a fucking phoenix. Use a phoenix to fly, use a cockatrice to walk.

I'll add that a friend of mine in the alpha says it's still just Wyverns and Bats, but then again, Shadowmoon Valley consists of a bunch of red outlines where things will be and several classes have no talents, soooo... who knows? Wait until later alpha builds. We'll be seeing their mounts soon enough.

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 06:11 AM #945 of 1941
eh, I dunno. I just want the expansion to hurry it's ass up.. or at least Blizzard fucking ALLOW people to make videos and post them. Like say let them just be able to film areas and shit, but leave new bosses alone and everything.


ALSO... it appears more people are getting their accounts hacked. Another person from our server got hacked. He just hit High Warlord last week, this week he logs on his character and everything that can be D/Ed and vendored, was on all his characters. GG. He's hoping to get his stuff back soon, but I've heard where it takes up to a month and even then it depends on the person who handles your case. Some people get their shit back, others get a big whopping 150g.

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 09:55 AM #946 of 1941
Pretty sure that isn't the regular BE mount. As of yet, I don't think anybody in the alpha has leveled a blood elf high enough to purchase their level 40 mount, and if they have, they haven't said anything.
The people who actually play the alpha are given characters already at lvl 60 so ya never know.

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 03:29 PM Local time: Sep 13, 2006, 01:29 PM #947 of 1941
No they aren't. They got to either level a blood elf to twenty, then a Draenei to twenty, THEN transfer their own characters. Currently you can level a BE or Draenei to 65, but most people would rather see the new shit in Outland on their 60s first, it seems.

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Old Sep 14, 2006, 02:56 PM #948 of 1941
ok so there's a crap load of dungeons, one for each area in outland other than Nagrand. And almost all of them seem to be "winged" like SM. Very exciting imo. Hellfire Citadel especially. Total of 6 lvl 70+ dungeons. And look Aeris is alive =O!
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burni...utlandmap.html

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Old Sep 14, 2006, 11:22 PM #949 of 1941
Yeah, shitpot of instances. Hellfire Citadel (the first part accessible) will be like 60-65 and you can go straight into once you install the expansion. *drool* I want to see the kind of items and gear that fall in it though.


Heh, I want to download the alpha for burning crusade, but I know if I try from Blizzard that I'll be the one to get caught :P is there a torrent out or anything? Like an alternate from getting it directly from blizzard? :P

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Old Sep 14, 2006, 11:55 PM Local time: Sep 15, 2006, 04:55 AM #950 of 1941
The gear I've seen linked thus far hasn't been too great. Not much better than Tier 1 or Silithus purples as of yet.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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