[DS] How do you get 3,000 pikachus on a bus? POKEMON!

I know one website where my roommate is playing on they use nothing but Blissey. Salamence, and I think it was garachomp, on every team.

Oh yeah, I also have found this thing, I'm not surprised if you came across it already, But its a team analyizer and it will tell you what team is immune to what its strong againist and what its weak againist.

http://www.psypokes.com/dex/typeanalysis.php

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Well, to get decent attacks, you basically need to level up to around 50, and levelling 6 brand new Pokémon to level 50 takes too long for me, unless I use the crappy team that got me through the Elite 4. Maybe if I had nothing else to do, I'd find the time to level : /

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I'd like to compete, but I'm just not that far into the game. Haven't attempted Byron's gym, and I don't plan to until I get my perfect Marowak and Zangoose. That's proving to be extremely difficult. Anyway, if you guys put together like a newb/low-level tournament, I'm game.

Fortunately, I replenished my Manaphy supply. Granted, they didn't come nearly as cheaply as the first two (this took a Darkrai and Shaymin, as opposed to a Mothim and a fucking Golbat), but it's good to have 'em back.

EDIT: Traded away a hacked shiny Arceus for Latias and Latios. I think two legit good legendaries are worth what is more or less a fake shiny.

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anyone on that would want to battle?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I'm surprised that I forgot to mention Wobbuffet. That thing is truly unfair. There's a reason I named mine "Bodybag". Wobbuffet is banned in most tournaments.

Every Wobbuffet has just about the same moveset and its ability, Shadow Tag, prevents a bored combatant from switching out, even during the mirror match. It's just a time waster that unimaginative jerks like to throw into battles because it's basically a free KO in anything but the mirror match.

At least there are ways to counteract a Shedinja or Spiritomb. Not a ton, but they exist. Against a Wobbuffet, you're cooked. It'll Mirror Coat or Counter you, then apply a Destiny Bond until you relent and let it kill your Pokemon. Wobbuffet is absolutely no fun.

There's also a rule known as "Sleep Clause". I think it means that you can't tr to put more than one of the opponent's Pokemon to sleep at a time. If the sleeping Pokemon is K.O.d, then you're allowed to use a Sleep inducer again, but not until. (If it happens through incidental means, like Effect Spore, that's acceptable.) It's kind of a gentleman's arrangement, from my understanding. You adhere, expecting the opponent to not violate the pact as well.

EDIT: Tiers are nice and all, purely for reference's sake, but I've never been one to stack my team full of overused Pokemon just because it means I'm gonna shred the competition. When I say I prefer casual battles, I mean that I like adding a bit of variety to my team. Maybe Zangoose isn't high up on some peoples' lists but that doesn't mean it's worthless. I'd rather use Pokemon that I personally think are nifty than obsess over which team is going to grant the highest percentage of victory. I do train my Pokemon to be competitive, so rest assured, it's gonna be one hell of a Zangoose. Still, I get tired of seeing nothing but Gyarados, Tyranitar and Alakazam during battle. Yes, I'll use them at times but I'll also throw Lapras, Cacturne or Ninetales out if I think it'll make things interesting.

Tiers are for scrubs.

From what I can see at Serebii.net's moveset for Wobbuffet there isn't much else it can have. Just Safeguard, Counter, Destiny Bond and Mirror Coat. Still makes it a complete bitch to fight against though. I'm up for just leaving it out unless anyone has a objection.

I like the "Sleep Clause" but I wouldn't put it in the rules or anything but it's a good thing to follow. If we add too many rules we'll end up scaring ourselves from playing in this tournament!

Oh and about the Tiers.
I had a small thought and maybe it'll have some positive impact for the play environment. Let's say we use the tier list to help determine a person's spot in a cup or bracket. Maybe a handicap system? If you saw the tiers listing you'll notice there are five tiers in total. Not including the "Uber" tier we can assign points to each tier. Each tier can be rated as such:
Overused (8 pts)
Borderline (6 pts)
Underused (4 pts)
Neverused (2 pts)
Everything else (1 pt)

For example the team I use at the moment is:
Kingdra (6)
Empoleon (6)
Dragonite (8)
Machamp (6)
Nidoqueen (4)
Miltank (6)
Average rating: 5.7 out of 8 (rounded up to the nearest tenth!)

Going by the tiers we can introduce a cup styled tournament. Maybe the team averages can be categorized like so :
1 to 2.6 points = "little" cup
2.7 to 5.3 points = "normal" cup
5.4 to 8 points = "pro" cup
That is, if the tiers listing is any indication of what the pros would use then it would be a good idea to seperate each cup by points. Rather than levels since we can all do matches at a preset level. Again, just a thought.

tiers list reference:

Ubers - Pokemon that are too powerful in a competitive setting, and are thus banned under most conditions.

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (All forms)
Dialga
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza

Overused - Pokemon best suited to the competitive level.

Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Azelf
Blissey
Bronzong
Celebi
Cresselia
Dragonite
Dusknoir
Electivire
Gallade
Garchomp
Gengar
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Lucario
Manaphy
Mesprit
Metagross
Porygon-Z
Raikou
Rampardos
Regice
Rhyperior
Salamence
Shaymin
Skarmory
Slaking
Snorlax
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Tyranitar
Uxie
Weavile
Zapdos

Borderline - Too powerful for the underused class.

Ambipom
Arcanine
Armaldo
Articuno
Bellossom
Blastoise
Blaziken
Breloom
Charizard
Claydol
Cradily
Crobat
Dodrio
Donphan
Dugtrio
Drapion
Empoleon
Espeon
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Floatzel
Flygon
Foretress
Gardevoir
Glaceon
Gliscor
Hippowdon
Houndoom
Jumpluff
Kingdra
Lapras
Leafeon
Lickilicky
Lopunny
Ludicolo
Machamp
Magmortar
Magnezone
Marowak
Medicham
Milotic
Miltank
Mismagius
Moltres
Muk
Ninetales
Ninjask
Omastar
Porygon2
Probopass
Regigigas
Regirock
Registeel
Roserade
Sceptile
Scizor
Slowbro
Smeargle
Spiritomb
Staraptor
Steelix
Swellow
Tangrowth
Tauros
Tentacruel
Togekiss
Torterra
Toxicroak
Typhlosion
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Weezing
Wobbuffet
Yanmega

Underused - Pokemon that will not perform well at all in competition.

Abomasnow
Absol
Aggron
Altaria
Ampharos
Arbok
Ariados
Azumarill
Banette
Bastiodon
Camerupt
Carnivine
Castform
Clefable
Cloyster
Corsola
Crawdaunt
Dewgong
Drifblim
Dunsparce
Electrode
Exploud
Fearow
Flareon
Froslass
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Glalie
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hariyama
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Hitmontop
Honchkrow
Huntail
Hypno
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Kecleon
Kingler
Lanturn
Linoone
Lunatone
Luxray
Magcargo
Mamoswine
Manectric
Magcargo
Mantine
Masquerain
Meganium
Mightyena
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Nidoqueen
Noctowl
Octillery
Phione
Pikachu
Pinsir
Poliwrath
Politoed
Primeape
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Rapidash
Raticate
Relicanth
Rotom
Sableye
Sandslash
Scyther
Seaking
Seviper
Sharpedo
Shiftry
Shuckle
Skuntank
Slowking
Solrock
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Swalot
Torkoal
Tropius
Ursaring
Venomoth
Venusaur
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Vileplume
Wailord
Walrein
Whiscash
Xatu
Zangoose

Never Used - Pokemon that have no competitive chance.

Beautifly
Beedrill
Bibarel
Butterfree
Chatot
Cherrim
Chimecho
Delcatty
Delibird
Ditto
Dustox
Farfetch'd
Furret
Illumise
Kricketune
Ledian
Lumineon (Neorant) =D
Luvdisc
Mawile
Minun
Mothim
Pachirisu
Parasect
Persian
Pidgeot
Plusle
Shedinja
Spinda
Sunflora
Unown
Volbeat
Wigglytuff
Wormadam

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Well, to get decent attacks, you basically need to level up to around 50, and levelling 6 brand new Pokémon to level 50 takes too long for me, unless I use the crappy team that got me through the Elite 4. Maybe if I had nothing else to do, I'd find the time to level : /

Well I mostly agree with you there. But it's not like I'm telling you to revamp your entire team for a little tournament. It is ok to use what you have, we're all here to have some fun. I'm actually leaning more towards a silly-fun tournament since the majority of us probably isn't using a "uber" team or anything.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

I'd like to compete, but I'm just not that far into the game. Haven't attempted Byron's gym, and I don't plan to until I get my perfect Marowak and Zangoose. That's proving to be extremely difficult. Anyway, if you guys put together like a newb/low-level tournament, I'm game.

Fortunately, I replenished my Manaphy supply. Granted, they didn't come nearly as cheaply as the first two (this took a Darkrai and Shaymin, as opposed to a Mothim and a fucking Golbat), but it's good to have 'em back.

EDIT: Traded away a hacked shiny Arceus for Latias and Latios. I think two legit good legendaries are worth what is more or less a fake shiny.

I am thinking of making a more "relaxed" tournament, after reading that many of us just aren't prepared for serious matches. Frankly neither am I but I just want to DO SOMETHING here worthwhile after spending too many hours raising pokemon. I'm sure alot of us can relate =p.

Originally Posted by Rua

anyone on that would want to battle?

Haha, my Shedinja = most annoying wall ever <3

A note to everyone, if you have the chance KO Shedinjas early.

FELIPE NO

til it killed itself. lol

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Hey I got Pokemon Diamond and i am willing to trade or battle
My trainer name is Draco
and my friend code is 2105 5145 0222
and if u want to trade or battle please IM me first so i can have warning on when to get to my DS

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I have a huge favor to ask.
I need a Metang with Ice Punch. The only way to get Ice Punch onto it is to have it tutored in Emerald, which I don't have.

If someone has this and is willing to hand it over I will be forever in your debt. Maybe I can rush through Ruby and trade you a Metang in return or a legendary bird or something. Or suck your cock, I'm up for anything.

Just NEED Metang, below level 50, with Ice Punch. It's my dream.

UPDATE: I just noticed I have the first three regis at level 100. If someone can get me this (without hax) I'm prepared to trade them all for it.

There's no real rush though. I need it within a month, so you dedicated souls have time to speed play Emerald and save up the Battle Tower points to teach it Ice Punch.

AND MUST BE METANG! I dont want any of this Metagross shit. Beldum would be acceptable, maybe.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

anyone get anything good off of GTS lately?

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Originally Posted by RABicle

I have a huge favor to ask.
I need a Metang with Ice Punch. The only way to get Ice Punch onto it is to have it tutored in Emerald, which I don't have.

If someone has this and is willing to hand it over I will be forever in your debt. Maybe I can rush through Ruby and trade you a Metang in return or a legendary bird or something. Or suck your cock, I'm up for anything.

Just NEED Metang, below level 50, with Ice Punch. It's my dream.

UPDATE: I just noticed I have the first three regis at level 100. If someone can get me this (without hax) I'm prepared to trade them all for it.

There's no real rush though. I need it within a month, so you dedicated souls have time to speed play Emerald and save up the Battle Tower points to teach it Ice Punch.

AND MUST BE METANG! I dont want any of this Metagross shit. Beldum would be acceptable, maybe.

I can acquire this for you easily. I've got Beldums available and also the points to use in Emerald. Give me a little bit to work it up and I'll have it ready for you. I presume that you'd like a specific personality, perhaps Adamant or Jolly?

I don't need level 100 Regis (I imported mine from Ruby) but if you've got Chimchars, Turtwigs and Spiritombs you can spare, those would be fantastic. I'm also in need of a Lucky Egg.

But I can definitely make you a Metang with Ice Punch.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

:O That would be legendary Crash.

Give me time and I can get you Turtwigs and maybe Spirtombs. Can't garruntee anything regarding Chimchars though sorry.

I'm not too fussed about it's nature although I'd prefer Hasty or a neutral natured one. Anything in particular you're looking for in your Turtwig's and Spirtombs?

(and lol, I didn't realise Metagross could breed)

I was speaking idiomatically.

Haha didn't Generic Badass make a trading thread to avoid spammage here? Not that I'm complaining or anything.

Hmmm...I may particpate in the contest after all if I can take my mind of Phantasy Star IV and SimCity. I only have four Pokémon above level 50.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by RABicle

:O That would be legendary Crash.

Give me time and I can get you Turtwigs and maybe Spirtombs. Can't garruntee anything regarding Chimchars though sorry.

I'm not too fussed about it's nature although I'd prefer Hasty or a neutral natured one. Anything in particular you're looking for in your Turtwig's and Spirtombs?

(and lol, I didn't realise Metagross could breed)

I intend to use the Turtwig and Spiritomb for breeding, so the natures don't matter too much. If you've a way to give them better moves that can be passed, that'd be cool. I've got a Ditto and can pass along most moves easily enough. If not, I know how to chain breed on my own.

If you have a Glameow too, that'd be cool. I can't get them and haven't obtained one yet.

I have the Metang ready, by the way. I found a Jolly one, since that enhances Attack. It's level 20 and now knows Ice Punch. It's never been in battle, since I fed it Rare Candies. You can EV train it however you like, if that's your plan. It's still low enough in level that the Rare Candies won't have any impact upon its final stats as long as all its EVs are filled soon.

FELIPE NO

does anyone want a lvl 1 chimchar? I got it from someone on GTS and don't really need it. you can trade me whatever.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Telekinetic: Definitely would like a chimchar. Send me a msg, I would appreciate it .

Crash Landon: I have a glameow. Could trade for something.

Btw any of you guys lucky with shinies. Just ended up catching one the other day, can't say much about it though

Jam it back in, in the dark.

nope no luck with shinies yet, but most of the ones I've seen I don't like. Some of the schemes look bad to me.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Finally came across my first shiny today while training on Iron Island. Shiny Steelix is a nice gold color, so hopefully that makes it move valuable than others (coloring is why shiny Charmanders are more valuable than most other shiny pokemon).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I can't figure out how to get to Route 229 and I want a Scyther. I'm so sad.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I've had my Pearl for about a month now. Still need to get the wireless USB adapter so I can go online with my DS.

I only read this page of the thread, but is there a lot of trade and battle activity going on between forum members, or not really?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Ultima

I can't figure out how to get to Route 229 and I want a Scyther. I'm so sad.

you get the national dex yet? or if you wanna be lazy i'll trade you a scyther. Just give me something crappy for it. like a Magickarp or something, ok. I don't need anything fancy.

I'm always up for a battle. btw.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I did get national dex but wtf.

FELIPE NO

Did you go to that snowy city? There's a ferry there that takes you to the island where Route 229 is. You'd need to get home first though and initiate the event. Your rival is supposed to go there first.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Did you go to that snowy city? There's a ferry there that takes you to the island where Route 229 is. You'd need to get home first though and initiate the event. Your rival is supposed to go there first.

My friend got me there, I'll probably never be able to get back but whatever. I've done pretty much everything so its not that I don't know what triggers I need to activate to get there, just that whenever I surf I get to a dead end near where the little island on the water route is.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

What about beating the Elite Four?

I heard that you can earn the National Dex before you beat the Elite Four... I swear someone said that in here.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Ultima

My friend got me there, I'll probably never be able to get back but whatever. I've done pretty much everything so its not that I don't know what triggers I need to activate to get there, just that whenever I surf I get to a dead end near where the little island on the water route is.

You can teach a Pokemon "Fly" and get back to Snowpoint that way.

And you can't surf to the Battle Tower island. You have to complete the event after defeating the Elite 4. Your mother will tell you to meet your rival in Snowpoint City. Once there, he'll say he's going to take a ferry to the Battle Tower to prove his stuff. You should be able to take it too.

Once you visit the Battle Tower, you can Fly there.

There MAY be a caveat involved where you cannot access the Battle Tower until your Regional Dex is filled. I got mine complete by fighting every trainer I could find. It's possible that you need to scout every nook and cranny for trainers so you can complete your Regional Dex first.

Or just trade like mad over the GTS.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.