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Suspenion of Disbelief and You
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Hotobu
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Old Aug 1, 2006, 10:09 AM #51 of 58
I always found it funny how your character had all these fantastic superhuman abilities and yet when it came time to enter an area that was at that time was restricted entry, you couldn't get in. This usually happens in RPGs, and I can't think of a specific example at the moment, but I'd be saying to myself "the place I want to go is RIGHT FUCKING THERE! You're telling me you can run a 50ft Dragon through with an aluminum blade, and can command fire at will, but can't jump over a simple crate?!" Recently game designers have come up with much better reasons for why you can't enter certain areas like that which is a good thing.

Another thing that I found funny is in action games where you've got the arsenal of a small army, and can't get into a doorway. You've got guns that could take down Dinosaurs in one shot, why spend hours looking for a key when you could just point it at the door and be on your way?

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Old Aug 2, 2006, 07:32 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2006, 08:32 AM #52 of 58
Originally Posted by Spatula
You know, I've been playing Front Mission 3 for about 2 or so weeks now, and it's a pretty fun, if not addictive game. The thing though, is why the hell does the "troop of five" (Rudolf Kaiser, Rebecca Sydney , Greg Herigle, Hatari Khartoum, and Emilio Gusly ) keep chasing after you guys even though you've beaten them like 3 / 4 times already. I mean, HELLO, DO YOU WANT YOUR ASS KICKED MORE?
Is that the English version? If so, how much was it?

I suppose I suspend my disbelief pretty well, as I tend to just accept everything that comes as part of the game world. I'll admit, though, that when playing a game where the main character is supposed to be powerful, only to be stopped because they don't have the right color key or some such is pretty ridiculous.

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 12:12 AM #53 of 58
I think the first time I snorted at BS within a game was when I was playing Secret of Mana, and I found a fur bikini that was several points of defense more effective than the full-bodied armor my female character was wearing. I remember thinking, 'if I sent her into battle naked, would she be invincible?'
I'm also surprised nobody's mentioned how an eagle's claw is three times as damaging to a ninja as a bullet to the face at point-blank range.

Personally though, I think unrealism makes a game better by and large. Case in point: I tried playing a Law & Order game for PC and having a miserable time of it; you really have to be able to do investigations and legal battles well in the first place to have a chance, and you get regularly berated for doing poorly. By contrast, Phoenix Wright doesn't resemble court proceedings anywhere on Earth by even a little bit, but it's about 300% more fun. With a videogame, something that requires active input to enjoy, that's really all that matters.

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 04:02 AM #54 of 58
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I just want to know one thing: Where the hell did Dr. Wily get all of those Skull Castles from?
Easy. Robots=Manual Labor. You don't think he only uses them for eliminating Mega Man, do you?

As for where he gets the funds, well that's easy too. He's a criminal, end of story.

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Besides, you're all forgetting the most perplexing VG mystery of all time: Where did the Koopa Kids come from? I don't see any female Bowsers anywhere in Mario's exploits.
I've been asking this question for years. That, along with "Where are they now?"

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 10:08 AM #55 of 58
The last game I remember that hyped itself as having no obstacles and make your own path because locked doors don't mean a damn thing was Red Faction. Yet, in playing it, on the off chance you did get something explosive with which to blow a hole in a wall, you couldn't do anything to a locked door. If you were lucky enough that the wall next to it was breakable, then yeah. The door would remain standing even if the wall all around it was completely obliterated.

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 10:59 AM Local time: Aug 3, 2006, 10:59 AM #56 of 58
Oh, I just remember something that really bugged the hell out of me. In Legend of Dragoon (and in it's copy-cat that ripped off it's basic storyline and suckiness, Baten Kaitos), they have about the most unforgivable overlook in "story" design ever. Basically in both games, the characters can sprout wings when they get into fights and do all kinds of crazy acrobatic maneuvers, and often through the story they'll even break out the wings when need be...and yet when you're traversing the map, you are GLUED to the ground. And I mean GLUED. In LoD, there's a roughly waist-high log that you have to get past. So what do you have to do? Find a hatchet in some shack off the map and chop it down. Yes, the main characters have wings, and they can fly, but they need to chop down a waist-high lump of wood to get by. And of course there's no way they could go AROUND it, oh no.

And Baten Kaitos even ripped off that scenario, except they made the log SLIGHTLY bigger so that it doesn't look like you could simply hop over it (of course you should be able to fly right over it without any problem, but noooooo, flying is reserved for BATTLES so that you can fly in place! Not silly things like traveling!).

I can't count the number of times in each game that you would need to jump about 5 feet in order to bypass all kinds of crap in the levels, and yet you're totally unable to get there even though you can FLY! I'm sorry, some RPG plot devices I can overlook, but that's just unforgivable.

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Old Aug 3, 2006, 12:27 PM #57 of 58
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I've been asking this question for years. That, along with "Where are they now?"
Easy. Nintendo went back in time (...what?) and killed them off, thus they now cease to exist.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 5, 2006, 11:08 PM Local time: Aug 6, 2006, 03:08 PM #58 of 58
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