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[DnD] D&D Discussion & Enlistment (Save Ends)
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 01:51 AM Local time: Mar 28, 2010, 11:51 PM #51 of 1196
Am I really up next to play? This means I need to read a bunch of shit. Point me to what that shit is. Wow I waited a long time.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 01:54 AM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 02:54 PM #52 of 1196
But you already played before, once... There shouldn't be any significant changes compared to last time, except for the dice rolling maybe.

If you're looking for races and stuff, you can download the books from the first post of this thread. As for which race is in which book, refer to the first post in the Magic Missile thread.

Anyway, here's a partial list (I know there's an assassin class in the Character Builder, but for the life of me I can't find it anywhere in the books.) The first Player's Handbook, as well as the book containing the race and class you're gonna use, is all you need to read.

Player's Handbook
Races: Dragonborn, Dwarf, Eladrin, Elf, Half-Elf, Halfling, Human, Tiefling
Classes: Cleric, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue, Warlock, Warlord

Player's Handbook 2
Races: Deva, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Longtooth Shifter, Razorclaw Shifter
Classes: Avenger, Barbarian, Bard, Druid, Invoker, Shaman, Sorceror, Warden

Player's Handbook 3
Races: Githzerai, Minotaur, Shardmind, Wilden
Classes: Ardent, Battlemind, Monk, Psion, Runepriest, Seeker
Rules on creating Hybrid class combinations of all types are also in this handbook.

Forgotten Realms Player's Guide
Races: Drow, Genasi
Classes: Swordmage

Eberron Player's Guide
Races: Warforged, Kalashtar, Changeling
Classes: Artificer

Dragon Magazine Races

Minotaur (Dragon #367)
Gnoll (Dragon #369)
Duergar (Monster Manual)


RACE OPTIONS:

Player's Handbook Races: Dragonborn
Player's Handbook Races: Human (to be released on December 21, 2010)
Player's Handbook Races: Tiefling (to be released on June 15, 2010)


CLASS OPTIONS:

Martial Power and Martial Power 2
Fighter, Ranger, Rogue, Warlord

Arcane Power
Bard, Sorcerer, Swordmage, Wizard, Warlock

Divine Power
Avenger, Cleric, Invoker, Paladin

Primal Power
Barbarian, Druid, Shaman, Warden

Psionic Power (to be released August 17, 2010)
Ardent, Battlemind, Monk, Psion


CLASS ACTS IN DRAGON MAGAZINE

Dragon 385: Assassin, Fighter, Shaman, Sorceror, Swordmage, Wizard
Dragon 384: Avenger, Barbarian, Cleric, Warlord
Dragon 383: Bard, Invoker, Ranger, Shaman, Warden, Warlock, Wizard
Dragon 382: Avenger, Druid, Fighter, Invoker, Swordmage, Warlock
Dragon 381: Invoker, Paladin, Rogue, Sorceror, Warlock, Warlord, Wizard
Dragon 380: Barbarian, Wizard
Dragon 379: Cleric, Fighter, Warden
Dragon 377: Ranger
Dragon 376: Bard
Dragon 369: Warlord
Dragon 367: Swordmage
Dragon 364: Wizard

MISCELLANY:

Adventurer's Vault (Hundreds of items, their functions, and their prices)
Adventurer's Vault 2 (Even more random loot for you to covet)

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 05:15 AM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 11:15 AM #53 of 1196
Zeph, the basic rules are the same as when you played last time. People tend to roll their own dice now but there's certainly no need to have quite the same grasp of the rules as Zerg has.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 09:26 AM #54 of 1196
Jesus, Zerg. Scare the boy away, why don't you. Do you know where all that shit can ALSO be found? In The Character Builder. The age of bringing your bookshelf to the game table is over, thank God.

(Zerg's "grasp of the rules" is pretty questionable, since he needs me to clarify them about thrice daily)

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 09:29 AM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 10:29 PM #55 of 1196
You just read the list without reading the paragraph that came before

Besides! I took most of it from your Magic Missile post! You totally started it.

And yea Shin, you overemphasize my understanding of the rules. The day we can have a battle where I don't ask Pang a single question, is the day I will claim sufficient grasp!

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 04:48 PM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 02:48 PM #56 of 1196
I am assuming I should prepare a character and read the current story backwards to some degree. Just asking for some specifics in this area.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 04:50 PM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 10:50 PM #57 of 1196
I have no intention of preparing one in 2014 when my turn rolls around. Just tell Pang you want some frog dude with psychic powers and he'll provide something I'm sure.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 05:12 PM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 03:12 PM #58 of 1196
well I figured, but just in case he refuses to frog me to size....

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 05:16 PM #59 of 1196
Yeah, I'll still build characters for people who don't want to install shit / do research, but there's always that question of leveling up. Still I guess if you can trust me for one thing you can trust me for the other.

What kind of specifics can I hit you up with, anyways? Because yeah, looks like a replacement might be in the making pretty soonlike with 1 PC only interested in saving his own ass and another one in a perpetual coma. Of course, I've said this before.

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Damn, Skills, notwithstanding that I asked you to stop bailing him out that's a little premature

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 05:41 PM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 04:41 PM #60 of 1196
I'm tempted to roll for him right NOW to avoid waiting again.

I made the post but will leave it in limbo to see if he's going to step up for once.

Edit: At this point it has less to do with bailing out Acer and more to do with "I want to take a turn before friday"

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 06:43 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 07:43 AM #61 of 1196
1 PC only interested in saving his own ass
I'm not sure what you think I can do here

First of all, Cal's just as effective 15 squares away as he is in 3 squares.

Second, he's not built for melee. Not only has he low HP and few healing surges, he's also quite squishy. Keeping away and out of harm preserves party healing resources which is better used for frontline defenders.

Third, he's just had a nova turn. All tapped out of encounters.

Fourth, he's not too happy about the callousness of the halfling.

Fifth, he's still grieving and won't be powergaming for five turns. I totally rolled for it. (I mean eh, why bother optimizing rounds to inflict maximum damage when your allies don't.)

Sixth, I'm still exploring whether Cal can try athletics to climb to the amphitheater's higher levels from the outside, where it's safer to do so than from the inside.

Finally, he's still bummed that he was dropped into the encounter on the front line all lined up where the enemy controller can drop a nice area attack on everyone at once at the beginning of the battle, when he explicitly stipulated that he'd rather bring up the rear.



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I was about to point out that Geoff in fact obstructs at least 3 out of 4 lines you can draw between the seer and Garrmondo, thus providing superior cover. But it seems +14 against reflex, plus a high roll of 16, is just too high to surmount

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 07:09 PM #62 of 1196
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Cal's just as effective 15 squares away as he is in 3 squares
Prime Shot says otherwise.

("Bringing up the rear" is fine, but these maps are finitely large and sometimes "bringing up the rear" would just mean shoving everyone else forward to make room for this theoretical "rear")

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 07:36 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 08:36 AM #63 of 1196
A +1 to hit won't make or break an attack

'Sides, I like to think Prime Shot is for those Melee rangers rather than the archers. Surely you don't expect me to get into enemies' faces and take OAs for every single attack?

Also, I would like to invoke the target clause of Fey Switch. "Willing" ally. I'm not willing.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:00 PM #64 of 1196
Yes, but then again, Rule 3.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:02 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 09:02 AM #65 of 1196
A ruling made to save time! I'm not wasting time by immediately registering my objection

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:03 PM #66 of 1196
Pang already told me that I don't have to follow that detail when I chose that ability. Neener neener.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:05 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 09:05 AM #67 of 1196
Man, why do you have to go and ruin my carefully-crafted combat advantage from concealment against the Hulk, huh? Why don't you just prone the lot of them with Tundra Wind

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:12 PM 3 #68 of 1196
If you want concealment against the Hulk then hide under your dead horse.

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 09:21 PM 5 #69 of 1196
What a piece of work is a horse! How noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form, in moving, how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world! the paragon of animals!

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 09:25 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 10:25 AM #70 of 1196
Ah, steeds, steeds, what steeds! Has the whirlwind a home in your manes? Is there a sensitive ear, alert as a flame, in your every fiber? Hearing the familiar song from above, all in one accord you strain your bronze chests and, hooves barely touching the ground, turn into straight lines cleaving the air, and all inspired by God it rushes on!

When I bestride Denny, I soar, I am a hawk: he trots the air; the earth sings when he touches it; the basest horn of his hoof is more musical than the pipe of Hermes.

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Old Mar 30, 2010, 07:31 AM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 01:31 PM #71 of 1196
Don't worry Zerg, now you can provide combat advantage by flanking instead and I'm sure you'll be able to steal another horse easily enough.

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Old Mar 30, 2010, 07:52 AM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 08:52 PM #72 of 1196
And attack him with what exactly? Cripple punch?

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Old Mar 30, 2010, 08:11 AM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 02:11 PM #73 of 1196
Try to pick his pockets, he might have a magic sword in one of them.

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Old Mar 30, 2010, 09:17 AM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 10:17 PM #74 of 1196
I don't think he's wearing any clothes.

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Old Mar 30, 2010, 02:07 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 01:07 PM #75 of 1196
He's gotta.

Even giant scary monsters have modesty.

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