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Shin Onimusha Dawn of Dreams (aka Onimusha 4)
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:21 PM #51 of 141
I got my first couple crits (one during the first Test of Valor) and i must say, this is probably my favorite Oni game so far, I love Jubei and Soki, i love how they interact, the cutscenes are awesome, all the characters are cool and intresting. Yep im lovin it lol.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:30 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 10:30 PM #52 of 141
Well there are team Oni magic attacks to but I don't remember how to do them. You will love Tenkai after you watch the ending =D. Besides Tenkai is my favorite now after finished the game and saw the ending =)

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:40 PM #53 of 141
Team magic is done by first having your weapon powered up to be able to use level 3 oni magic. Then just charge it up and hit L2 at the end. Your partner needs to have at least one bar of oni magic, and you have to have full.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:43 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 10:43 PM #54 of 141
Well I knew it wasn't hard at all =) I had finished Shin Oni 2 times but in 2nd I just save after you know why had left us in order to get us you know where. So I'm just visiting Dark Realms from time to time =)

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 09:41 PM #55 of 141
Big equipment question. Im on stage 5 i believe (the fortress stage) and I just got the Black Sword. Should i not be using/upgrading Lamentation? Ive got it to lvl 4 and im not sure if i should upgrade it anymore and start using the fire sword or maybe even the Black sword.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 01:08 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 07:08 AM #56 of 141
Black sword it heavy and his attacks are slow... wait I'll check what weapons I got my self to the MAX.

Ok first of all make sure to get LAMENTATION blade to the MAX cause of Lv.8, Lv.9 and MAX Lv addons. Then MAX out ENRYU (84) and use it till you get HABAKIRI (130) witch you will use to the end of the game. If you like to play in Dark Realm try to get to floor 50 and get EXCALIBUR (180) there then MAX it out. This way no enemie will stand in your way =). If you want I can do the same for all characters.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 01:32 AM #57 of 141
Yeah, a weapon guide for the other characters would be nice as well lol.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:25 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 09:25 AM #58 of 141
Originally Posted by Tokubetsu
Yeah, a weapon guide for the other characters would be nice as well lol.
I'll post it here later. Till then just play as Soki =)

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:47 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 02:47 AM #59 of 141
Cut scenes are great, but so few, a lot of it is dialogue. That's probably one of the disappointments for me, the lack of cut scenes. Like some missions start with a narrative and summary of what happend, then you hear some of the characters speak. Those kinds of scenes, should have been made into FMV, as it would have improved the presentation. They've done this way too frequently, really a disappointment, you'd think they'd be able to fit it in too, since the game is two discs. Oh well, the gameplay is hella fun though, with the story giving some great connections to characters/places/events of the past Onimushas. This is truely a game that fans of the previous titles will appreciated more.

Anyway for weapons... Definitely max Lamentation, as you get some pretty great bonuses out of it. Cutting Wind is another good one, as you'll generate wave attacks at max level (one of Soki's faster weapons, with a 6 combo). Infact any character that has a wave attack weapon, I suggest maxing, as they're the best ones IMO. Jubei's was Onimaru, which also gives +100 attack, probably one of the best weapons for her. Though lately, I've found myself using the Dragon Offer quite frequently for Soki and Juzumaru for Jubei, as both give +100% experience. As for Ohatsu, I'm using Guardian which gives some nice stats . Can't really say what for Tenkai or Roberto, as I haven't been given many good chances to use either yet (you'll see what I mean later on).

Don't forget to upgrade the armour too! Level 30 will give you max accessory slots (4 total), subsequent levels will raise the armour's defense points. Love how everything takes a lot less to level now.

Currently I've just finished stage 10 and clocking in at about 22 hours now. Mostly because I've been leveling in the many levels of Dark Realm. Which is hella hard, good thing there's a 2 player mode which gives you the option to go through it with a friend.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:56 AM #60 of 141
How exactly do i get to the dark realm? or am i still too early for it (starting stage 5)

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 04:10 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 10:10 AM #61 of 141
Originally Posted by Tokubetsu
How exactly do i get to the dark realm? or am i still too early for it (starting stage 5)
I don't remember but our hanging little faller will get you there when time will come.

As for weapons:
Akane:
- Onimaru (Till the end of the game)

Ohatsu:
- Decadence
- Black Inferno (Till the end of the game)


Roberto:
- Gloves of Hades
- Class Zero Gloves
- Michael's Gauntlets (Till the end of the game)


Tenkai:
- Congoyashu
- Gundari
- Fudo (Till the end of the game)*


* Thanks to this weapon game is like a walk in a park.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:16 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 06:16 AM #62 of 141
Originally Posted by Tokubetsu
How exactly do i get to the dark realm? or am i still too early for it (starting stage 5)
You won't gain access till about Stage 8, I think. It'll be through Minokichi.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 09:20 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 03:20 PM #63 of 141
Oh and after you get to the Dark Realm on each 50th floor you have 2nd the best weapon in game. After getting there get back to hideout and MAX it level then use.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:34 PM #64 of 141
I must be doing something wrong, I always seem to go into a boss fight with like half health lol, after a couple tries im usually able to still beat them but i never seem to have medicine when i need it lol.

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Tenkai's freeze move is kicking my ass =( I can get him down to about half health, but then somehow, he manages to get me frozen and since i only have half health, he does a combo that pretty much ends the fight.

UBER EDIT: Ok this genma guy is something else =/ the spider boss type thing...i kinda wish i had full health now lol.

LAST EDIT: I must say i love this game...why else would i try to beat a boss with this much health left:
I think i was somewhat out of my mind but i killed him, just had to be super careful. I had tenkai switch off between Praying while I was attacking and staying behind and recover so he'd stay alive when the boss attacked.


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Old Mar 20, 2006, 03:32 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 01:32 PM #65 of 141
If you're problem is going to boss fights with half-health, mine would be charging in with only 2 level 1 meds and 2 level 2 meds, half-health as well.

So currently at the mountain pass and I must say that this is one challenging yet enjoyable game. I like it.

Since I'm a weapon addict, Lamentation is now at the MAX while the other weapons are just floating at around 3 - 5 levels. Tenkai, Jubei, Roberto and Ohatsu I have no idea what to use. Tenkai's Yama, Jubei's wind sword or something, Roberto's default weapon and Ohatsu's Ice Rifle is what I currently use.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 03:50 PM #66 of 141
Gah, Stage 6 =(

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I wasnt ready for bosses that can break my guard! lol. I beat roberto using to Oni Meds which was a bad move because im fucked when it comes to sakon. He does massive damage and you cant block that huge dash + the fire. I can get off 2 Oni magic before im out of MP and then Tenkai dies and its all over for me. Im gonna try to kill Roberto without using oni meds so i can just spam it on Sakon.


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Old Mar 20, 2006, 04:06 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 02:06 PM #67 of 141
Originally Posted by Tokubetsu
Gah, Stage 6 =(

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I wasnt ready for bosses that can break my guard! lol. I beat roberto using to Oni Meds which was a bad move because im fucked when it comes to sakon. He does massive damage and you cant block that huge dash + the fire. I can get off 2 Oni magic before im out of MP and then Tenkai dies and its all over for me. Im gonna try to kill Roberto without using oni meds so i can just spam it on Sakon.

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Roberto's just let him approach and swerve to his flank when he's attacking. As for Sakon, just hit and run. Go to his back and he'll start looking for you. Attack, run away, evade all his spear attacks and let loose at his back.


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Old Mar 20, 2006, 05:13 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 11:13 PM #68 of 141
Originally Posted by Terminus
Since I'm a weapon addict, Lamentation is now at the MAX while the other weapons are just floating at around 3 - 5 levels. Tenkai, Jubei, Roberto and Ohatsu I have no idea what to use. Tenkai's Yama, Jubei's wind sword or something, Roberto's default weapon and Ohatsu's Ice Rifle is what I currently use.
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Akane:
- Onimaru (Till the end of the game)

Ohatsu:
- Decadence
- Black Inferno (Till the end of the game)


Roberto:
- Gloves of Hades
- Class Zero Gloves
- Michael's Gauntlets (Till the end of the game)


Tenkai:
- Congoyashu
- Gundari
- Fudo (Till the end of the game)*


* Thanks to this weapon game is like a walk in a park.
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Ok first of all make sure to get LAMENTATION blade to the MAX cause of Lv.8, Lv.9 and MAX Lv addons. Then MAX out ENRYU (84) and use it till you get HABAKIRI (130) witch you will use to the end of the game. If you like to play in Dark Realm try to get to floor 50 and get EXCALIBUR (180) there then MAX it out. This way no enemie will stand in your way =). If you want I can do the same for all characters.
Here you go =) I was posting it earlier =P

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 06:39 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 04:39 PM #69 of 141
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Here you go =) I was posting it earlier =P
Thanks .

I guess I have to make do what I have right now. Man, I wish I had more time to play

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 07:55 PM #70 of 141
I find it rather interesting that you guys are having item troubles, that's one problem I never seem to have. I gotta agree that the boss fights are hella hard, but I've not once ever run into trouble where I'm only stuck with a couple items.

Have you tried using issen attacks? That's what helped me defeat some of the bosses. Eg. Use level 1 magic then do a critical/issen attack (only works when the weapon's element isn't Ice), I find that this method usually does more damage than a level 2 or 3 magic skill. Or the deflect/break issen.

Also, try doing Combine with your partners when you're at the hideout. Grass + Grass = 1 Medicine, etc. You can also make some rare weapons.

I just finished stage 12, so feel free to give me shout for help as well.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 09:10 PM #71 of 141
I've never had item problems either. It's ridiculously easy to keep your meds at full capicity. Actually I'm finding the game pretty average in difficulty. It's not super easy, but it's not exactly hard either. It's perfect.

Is it just me or is Ohatsu wicked fun to use. I love her.

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:56 AM #72 of 141
I played this game for a few minutes. It lost me at the very beginning with samurai robots and the main character pulling off stunts I already knew i wouldn't be able to reproduce. Always disappointed by the limits of plausible control by means of a control pad.

I guess when I was playing it, I got the feeling of a watered down Devil May Cry. I was hacking and slashing and doing cool moves, but there wasn't enough fluidity in my assault and the enemy's. Maybe I'm being a jerk for expecting such.

I'm sure I'll come back to this game eventually; perhaps when I complete BLACK.

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Old Mar 21, 2006, 06:07 AM Local time: Mar 21, 2006, 12:07 PM #73 of 141
Originally Posted by Rei no Otaku
I've never had item problems either. It's ridiculously easy to keep your meds at full capicity. Actually I'm finding the game pretty average in difficulty. It's not super easy, but it's not exactly hard either. It's perfect.

Is it just me or is Ohatsu wicked fun to use. I love her.
Yeah for me game was damn easy and I never had a problem with any of boss fights. Item? I was only using them in Dark Realm... so I don't know where is problem here. It all depends on how do you master R1 + Triangle > Square + Left Analog Stick in enemies direction. If you manage to master it you can finish the game easily. I mastered it on stage 6 or 7 and from them I have 1/3 kills by critical =) so it was like 1500+.

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Old Mar 26, 2006, 03:45 PM Local time: Mar 26, 2006, 01:45 PM #74 of 141
This is horseshit. I mean, Luis Frois anyway.

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How the hell can you beat him with that time bomb on your body? What I did was use a co-op attack every now and then to eliminate the timer, sometimes use a special attack before the timer explodes so that I would be invulnerable. What if, by circumstance, you don't have any magic or you've exhausted your supply of MP meds, you're bound to die every time he casts that piece of shit? Also, I found out that he's terribly annoying as hell. Never knowing where those scalpels may fire so you can deflect them as well as the time bomb. What in the world? I beat him once but if the opportunity rises again and I don't have any MP invincibility moves like the co-op attack or the MP attack, how in the living world would I survive? Any easier methods?


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Old Mar 27, 2006, 02:19 AM Local time: Mar 27, 2006, 08:19 AM #75 of 141
Originally Posted by Terminus
This is horseshit. I mean, Luis Frois anyway.

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How the hell can you beat him with that time bomb on your body? What I did was use a co-op attack every now and then to eliminate the timer, sometimes use a special attack before the timer explodes so that I would be invulnerable. What if, by circumstance, you don't have any magic or you've exhausted your supply of MP meds, you're bound to die every time he casts that piece of shit? Also, I found out that he's terribly annoying as hell. Never knowing where those scalpels may fire so you can deflect them as well as the time bomb. What in the world? I beat him once but if the opportunity rises again and I don't have any MP invincibility moves like the co-op attack or the MP attack, how in the living world would I survive? Any easier methods?
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Only problem for me was to figure it out that you can deflect the scalpels. After I got it there was no hope for him. It was quite a long fight but it wasn't hard at all. I don't think any boss fight was a problem for me... Now I finished game 2nd time and have Lv.99 or characters, armor and MAX level of all best weapons. Viva la Dark Realm!!


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