[Multiplatform] Battlefield 1943, a.k.a. Maybe it actually works now, awesome.

I've found it's running perfect now. I love how fast the 360 unlocked the Coral Sea map. It was fun for abit, but I probably won't play that mode too often. The one thing I'm absolutely glad for is that chatting is limited to your current squad. It sucks if you have more than four friends playing a game, but you're all going to be matched up in an Xboxlive party anyways.

Either way, I'd be more happy with not being able to talk to some friends over having to listen to some of the idiots that are most likely playing. Really, does anyone want to listen to some idiot/little kid whine about not getting into a plane, or how you "Stole his kill/vehicle/plane." or "You're such a fag/noob/bitch/slut/etc."

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

No one is actively talking in the game channel anyway. The squads you get thrown in are already in their own party chat.

Game runs the exact opposite of perfect, but you're fortunate to have that. The amount of times it won't let me join a friend's game, or split the party after a round, or randomly disconnect me, or have crippling lag, or freeze, or something, is still about a 6 (or more) to 1 ratio to having the thing actually work as it should.

This is doing nothing but give me headaches. I am very glad that, in the end, I didn't pay for it. It is a wonderful game marred by the worst execution I've seen in years. I'm going to give it a week to improve. I'll drop it afterwards if it's still garbage.

Air Superiority mode is fun until you realize that everyone on your team is just going to bazooka the planes on your carrier repeatedly (seriously, happened every time I did this mode) and that it's easy to dominate if you're more than competant enough to know how not to fly into the side of a mountain. I've gone 15 and 2 and 18 and 3 and all sorts of shit in that since it's so easy.

Unfortunately, it'll ruin pilot stats for those of us who specialize in that in the main game. Getting the fighter efficiencies shows a lot more talent when you get it in Conquest than in AS. Real men know how to pop tanks.

AS stats should be segregated from the others, but that won't happen.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I'm pretty sure that Battlefield 2 on the Xbox used to occasionally throw your mates onto the other team but I suppose there was no party system back then. The reason they do squad chat rather than general chat is that voip takes up a shit ton of bandwidth. Limiting people to only talking to their squad or anyone within 3 feet of you or in the same vehicle was the only way they could get smooth gameplay with 50 people online in Frontlines, having general chat would have made the whole thing unplayably slow.

I must say I'm finding the concept of having to kill yourself to change teams being a "punishment" quite a difficult one to get my head round. If you want to play on the other team you kill yourself and get invited over. Aside from letting down your current team by switching out, exactly how does this actually hurt you? It can't take that long to die and switch surely so you're not missing out on much of the match during transition are you?

I was speaking idiomatically.

You get penalised in points and stats Shin. It's counted as a suicide, so you get -10 points, and do hurt the team you end up on.

How ya doing, buddy?

Ah, I didn't realise the negative points switched teams with you. Every other game like this I've played restarts you at zero points when you switch teams. I can see then how that would be annoying although again, the final score doesn't directly affect your enjoyment of playing the game one would hope.

I think as far as stats go though you know you've never killed yourself except to change teams so unless you're worried about impressing people with your awesome Battlefield stats or maintaining some spot of a leaderboard then that's not really a problem is it?

And if you are worried about those things then I think you really, really need to get out more.

FELIPE NO

No, not worried about it, but it's still punishing you for the game fucking up. It's more about the principle that the actuality.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Game has been deleted. I feel better already.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah, this shit has gone beyond being frustrated with the game to actually being angry enough to be nippy at each other in the voice chats.

There is no point to having your entertainment actively piss you off when it's meant to be something to relax with, so fuck this. I think I'm about to follow suit with Omagnus's fantastic idea.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I was wondering when this was going to happen. All I'd hear about is how broken the shit is (or if I happened to be in party chat, how frustrating aspects of the game were) but you kept PLAYING IT like battered housewives that just couldn't be assed to seek help.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The game didn't even have the kindness to lie and say "that's ok baby, I'm sorry, it won't happen again" after physically assaulting us though. After all the bruises and missing teeth all we got was a "clean the blood off the carpet, bitch".

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

So are you all going to get Worms instead or what?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Soldier profiles are up, but still seem off in terms of stats. My most used class is Japanese Sniper? Huh? Or, somehow my playtime is higher than Omagnus's, my score is lower, but I still have more than double his points per minute.

Oh, neat. Division is hard.

Don't know if I can trust the other numbers after that. Some seem ballpark correct but I can't be sure. (Pretty sure Omagnus has more than 67 Allied Tank kills.)

I also can't find Ultima or Devo with it, although it does find Miles, who has less playtime than the both of them.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I'm sure people have complained about the issues on forums and probably to EA its self - but has there been any offical word from them about this garbage?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by LeHah

I'm sure people have complained about the issues on forums and probably to EA its self - but has there been any offical word from them about this garbage?

There have been no official statements outside of the postings made on the website, which consist mostly of "You love us too much, we have to fix this!" and various other coy rewordings of "oops, we fucked up".

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

At this point, it seems it would be easier for them to fix the problems, delete the current version and put up something entirely "new". There seems to be far too many "basic" problems for a patch or two to fix.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Both the patches and any new version would be required to go through that nebulous magical whatever-the-fuck that is the Microsoft certification process. If they could bypass that though, super. Bethesda's skipped it with the fixes for Fallout DLC, but that involved them actively admitting a problem instead of...well, this.

Half the problems this thing experiences are on their end, dealing with their servers, such as the squad splitting fuck ups and the other various connection issues. Freezing, error handling, and visual problems aside, there's not much (outside of the gameplay balancing issues Devo wants) that could be fixed with an all new product belched out right away.

I'm willing to try again in about 4 to 8 weeks, see if anything's been touched up, but that's about it. Here's hoping, since the core product is wonderful when it isn't choking to death on it's own vomit.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

Half the problems this thing experiences are on their end, dealing with their servers, such as the squad splitting fuck ups and the other various connection issues.

Which is again the reason they'd need something new and not just something patched.

Without getting too nerdy on me - does anyone know if the server issues are in the way the game talks to the servers via bad programming or the servers themselves or what? At this point, Superman Returns has fewer bugs and more fun in it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Drop it like its hot.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

In the simplest terms, most of the issues (both those already fixed and still remaining) fall into the latter category, while comparitively few of them fall into the former.

I was speaking idiomatically.

If the errors were in the way the game talked to the servers, it would be a lot more clearcut, because pretty much everyone would be getting affected. Since it's the servers acting screwy, some people luck out and then the actual GAME is fine, and then others can't get past the wall of bugs in the servers.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

Pray to god you don't drop that shit.

DO I NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH ALUMINUM TUBES

YELLOW CAKE

FELIPE NO

I actually bought this yesterday on the insistence of Phong and Harvey and had a real blast playing it for a few hours. There are a few graphical glitches here and there and whilst the squad splitting can be annoying, it's easily remedied by everyone except the party leader quitting then getting re-invited. Takes about 20 seconds to fix, if that.

The game itself is pretty fun, although I imagine less so without a squad full of mates. That there's only three jobs makes for some balance issues and they really need to make the tanks suffer more damage from rockets although perhaps I'm just too used to Frontlines where any tank can be killed with three rockets and they're homing rockets. I'd prefer a layout of the maps that lead to a more definite attack and defence direction, all too often you capture a flag only to be shot in the back by people capturing the one behind you but again, that could just be too much Frontlines.

It's certainly worth a tenner though if you have some mates to play it with.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Tanks can be two shotted if you hit them in the ass. Armour is weaker back there. There's less distinct vehicle damage zones than in BF2, but the concept is the same.

I have found that, sometimes (most of the time), when you try to rejoin your squad after getting split, the damn thing rejects your connection attempts. At least, that's how it was before this last weekend. Perhaps that three hours of downtime actually resulted in some work being done.

How ya doing, buddy?

The game may well be less annoying than it was, but it's still plenty frustrating, mostly now because of the sheer number of idiots populating the battlefield. I'd be very surprised if many people beyond the GFFer (and associates) filled squad were doing anything sensible, and the number of people I found just randomly camping useless locations. That coupled with issues where the game ignores damage sometimes, vehicles are random as shit (lol @ Devo's jeep image), and various other inconsistencies.

The game can be fun, but it's fun tinged with a lot of frustration and annoyance, and the rather irritation-free fun I've been having in Burnout Paradise reminds me that I don't need to put up with that kind of bullshit annoyance in games when I have so many better options available. Hell, I'd rather risk reload glitches in Call of Duty 4, as ultimately that's still a far better game in my book.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

The game may well be less annoying than it was, but it's still plenty frustrating, mostly now because of the sheer number of idiots populating the battlefield. I'd be very surprised if many people beyond the GFFer (and associates) filled squad were doing anything sensible, and the number of people I found just randomly camping useless locations. That coupled with issues where the game ignores damage sometimes, vehicles are random as shit (lol @ Devo's jeep image), and various other inconsistencies.

The game can be fun, but it's fun tinged with a lot of frustration and annoyance, and the rather irritation-free fun I've been having in Burnout Paradise reminds me that I don't need to put up with that kind of bullshit annoyance in games when I have so many better options available. Hell, I'd rather risk reload glitches in Call of Duty 4, as ultimately that's still a far better game in my book.

Ha ha, what? Burnout is your idea of frustration free online gaming? You mean you enjoy joining a game, suggesting someone actually starts a race, getting ignored while the host attempts all kinds of 8 man challenges, failing all of them because there's one person in the room just driving around in circles and ending up with everyone just driving up and down the bridge jumping into each other endlessly?

If you want to play team games with more than 4 a side with any sort of tactical sensibilty across the team then you need to start forming bigger parties or prepare yourself for a lifetime of dissapointment mate. There will always be idiots who are playing just to get their kill averages up or to get achievements or to fly the planes because everyone else is a jew nigger fag bitch noob and until they get rid of leaderboards and achievements or make the leaderboards based on highest number of base captures, that's here to stay in games like this. I think it's Frontlines where you get a single point for a kill and ten for a base capture and that encourages people to play it properly, capturing bases rather than dicking about as a sniper in a stupid spot but even then you get queues for the helicopters and people taking them without waiting for a co-pilot.

That doesn't mean you can't have fun though. A group of four or so should be enough to mount a reasonable assault on any flag, especially as you can spawn on your squadmates so can keep up the pressure and there will be the same number of idiots on the other team as on your own so the numbers are still balanced.

Different people get different things out of gaming. Some people like to be the highest scorer every time, some people like to be on the winning team, some like to scream insults down the mic at strangers and some just like to dick about with their mates. I'd never be so bold as to tell you what to play but I imagine you'd get a lot less frustrated with team games if instead of always playing the newest games (Which will attract a vast number of casual gamers just pissing about), you played something a bit older, meaning the try-it-for-a-bit-then-buy-something-shinier brigade will have moved on and the only people still playing will be those who really like the game and probably have a deeper understanding of the sensible tactics and what have you.

In my experience, you get much better matches in unpopular games, assuming you're the type to take your gaming seriously rather than just playing for a laugh.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.