[Multiplatform] Left 4 STOP THROWING PIPE BOMBS AT THE TANKS

Left 4 Dead sales in Russia spur mad rush for adrenaline high, brains.

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-After playing some rounds on versus, I've decided that advanced is a lot easier than I thought at first. The dev commentary mentioned that versus mode was made basically to be biased in favor of the zombies, so it takes a really miraculous circumstance, or really inept infected team, to see survivors make it all together.

-Shotgun remains my all time favorite, although playing through Death Toll made me appreciate the value of a good long-distance weapon.

-somehow, I managed to get Mercy Killer even though I died literally right next to the helicopter. This did not make up for the fact that the game threw a total of three tanks at us in the Death Toll finale. I got stomped on my way to the boat, and it made me sad.

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Yeah, just noticed tonight that the gas cans/propane tanks are pick-up-able. With a little team coordination it is deliciously easy to create GLORIOUS FLAME MOAT.

Also, protip: The pistols, just like the Engie/Scout pistol in TF2, fire just as fast as you can press MOUSE1. Fan the hammer, boys (this doesn't work when you're downed, though).

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Originally Posted by Skexis

This did not make up for the fact that the game threw a total of three tanks at us in the Death Toll finale. I got stomped on my way to the boat, and it made me sad.

Now, is this three tanks at a time? Or over the course of the final siege? Because that seems like the standard; you're going to get around five Hunters, Smokers and Boomers and two Tanks before your salvation arrives, then generally another Tank (but sometimes a Boomer, as Pang, Sass and I found out a couple of nights ago) during a Horde as your help shows up.

Why they don't just pop a Witch in there is beyond me.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Melee is completely and utterly overpowered, and I love every single second of it.

Seriously, when you can melee a hunter down in versus mode and have the guy that you killed go off on the mic (all talk) it's priceless.

I also lived for like 2 minutes after everyone had died on the roof of No Mercy by simply meleeing constantly and reloading everytime I got off a free shot.

Unfortunately, I don't think I could ever melee a tank to death or a witch...By god I'll try though if I get desperate.

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish

Now, is this three tanks at a time? Or over the course of the final siege? Because that seems like the standard; you're going to get around five Hunters, Smokers and Boomers and two Tanks before your salvation arrives, then generally another Tank (but sometimes a Boomer, as Pang, Sass and I found out a couple of nights ago) during a Horde as your help shows up.

It was over the course of the finale, but for some reason I only remembered one in No Mercy, and then the one at the very end when the heli arrives. Well, at any rate, I was in the red by the time the final rush for the boat came around, so there wasn't much I could do except get beaten with the tank's hamhock arms.

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Pang became the first human after the Zombie Apocalypse to attempt to fly, with the help of a Tank.

His courageous efforts will not be forgotten.

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I am some kind of goddamn magical tank magnet. I can only assume that Louis smells delicious.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well he's black so he kinda stands out in a world full of white people.

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But... but

it's night out

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

RED TIE, HELLO

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I see now. Louis is L4D's version of the redshirt

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How's everyone's experiences been playing L4D with random people from the world? I'm generally on pretty late, even for my fellow west coasters, so I'd pretty much just have to play with random people most of the time.

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish

Now, is this three tanks at a time? Or over the course of the final siege? Because that seems like the standard; you're going to get around five Hunters, Smokers and Boomers and two Tanks before your salvation arrives, then generally another Tank (but sometimes a Boomer, as Pang, Sass and I found out a couple of nights ago) during a Horde as your help shows up.

Why they don't just pop a Witch in there is beyond me.

I tested on easy; if you kill the third tank that appears during the "escape!" sequence the game spawns a fourth.

Originally Posted by Grail

Unfortunately, I don't think I could ever melee a tank to death or a witch...By god I'll try though if I get desperate.

Actually, if a tank is pounding on an incapacitated (on the ground) buddy, meleeing it in the back will turn it's attention to you.

But sometimes it's better to sacrifice one person and keep firing like a madman.

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I am up for a game hit me up anytime gamertag, LiquidSnack.

=O i hate tanks i always get hulk smash'd

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If anyone wants to hit me up for this game on Live also, my tag is Manello Biggz. Finally completed No Mercy on expert last night with some randoms. I aim to try to play through them in order.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

How's everyone's experiences been playing L4D with random people from the world?

Not great. My first game got me with some douchebag that kept shooting the rest of us. The first time he did it, we promptly shot him down and left him to die but one of the other players decided to help him get back up. Shortly after, he did the same thing, so I said: "you're a fucking douche" in my (not so) hilarious french canadian accent and left.

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So far, I am loving this game! I still haven't beat the campaigns because I've been playing the expert mode only with people online, and we always encountered Tank near the end of the maps. XD

As for the versus mode, I really like the way Infected are played out, as it has many ways to ambush the survivors and with the right cooperation, you can own them with a lot of laugh.

I think the communication is the key to the success of the matches, as each side requires a careful coordination of the plans. I usually prefer playing the survivor side because it is much more intense and always love to kill those zombies.

One problem with the game I am having is, the matchmaking system and the lack of game room with good pings. Sometimes, I encounter a good group of people, but usually I am stuck with people from Asia, which causes really bad lag. I can circumvent the problem by using the server window, but it's pain in the butt to do it every time.

If anyone needs a co-op buddy, I am usually available in the afternoon on EST. My steam name is kyosuke_nanbu.

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Here's an early beta video of what's expected to be the first major custom map for Left 4 Dead, the mall from Dawn of the Dead.

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I regret that I've never seen DotD but this map (in an early version) looks pretty promising.

It's still pretty early since the release of L4D, but there is a site up concerning mods for L4D. Based on the relatively small amount of content in L4D I'm excited to see what will be made for it, but also concerned that nothing breaks the balanced, err, slightly uneven, gameplay. Any new boss or mini-boss zombies should definitely not throw that balance any further towards the zombies.

As far as maps or campaigns go, not being a zombie-movie aficionado makes it hard for me to come up with any suggestions or ideas, outside of Shawn of the Dead. That would probably require a mod to inject a lot more funny into the game.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

How's everyone's experiences been playing L4D with random people from the world? I'm generally on pretty late, even for my fellow west coasters, so I'd pretty much just have to play with random people most of the time.

It really depends on what difficulty you play on. I'd say for the most enjoyable and 'beatable' experience, you have to play on Advanced. I've not run into anyone at all that sits there and shoots players intentionally, and the game is still quite a challenge, but not so much that you'll never see the end.

As far as expert goes, it's intense, and everyone plays extremely seriously on that difficulty, but with everyone being so new to the game, they still don't understand the concept of 'don't shoot a zombie if it's right next to a teammate, let them take care of themselves'.

Over half the incaps and deaths on expert are due to friendly fire. So if there are a huge mob of zombies on a player, don't shoot blindly into the crowd...run up, melee, shoot, melee, shoot and repeat until dead. Your bullets will kill faster than those zombies can.

I was speaking idiomatically.

This is just wrong and bad.

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i was able to get some playtime from the demo a while ago and I fucking loved it. Might get the game when I know I can make some time to play it. I don't have a 360 though so I'll just get the pc version since my pc runs it perfect anyway.

And since we're sharing videos. I fucking love this one.
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Originally Posted by The Dopefish

As far as maps or campaigns go, not being a zombie-movie aficionado makes it hard for me to come up with any suggestions or ideas, outside of Shawn of the Dead. That would probably require a mod to inject a lot more funny into the game.

Really you could go with any horror movie cliche and make something good come of it. A rural setting like The original Night of the Living Dead, with objectives placed in the way, would be pretty cool. If there were some way for the game to put an activation timer on a vehicle, you could set up a finale level where one survivor has to hotwire the car while the other three cover him.

Or there could be one level that finishes with a surprise-- like the whole time the survivors are trying to get to a military base for safety, but just as they try to close the last safehouse door, they find out the place is overrun.

Or maybe just a panic event in a church, where you have to go up to the bell tower and ring the bells to let people know you're there, but of course it brings 8 million zombies down on your head. The noise of the bells drowns out audio cues for boss infected, and hilarity ensues.

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After like 2 hours of trying to beat the No Mercy Finale on expert last night, we finally gave up. We should have had it but we always end up losing 2 or so people to tank...they just take crazy long to drop. Closest we got was losing everyone by myself to the second to the tank. I got up the ramp to get to the chopper only to be thrown up on by a boomer. The horde wasted no time in getting to me, pushing me off the helipad before I could jump in the heli and I died. So close.

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Just got this on PC. If I happen to be on when some of you are playing, shoot me an invite and I'll be glad to join you. Name's WolfDemon86 on Steam.

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Tokubetsu, a cheap way to beat No Mercy on expert (campaign only, not versus):

Spoiler:

Go up to the roof-platform that has the minigun. Face the minigun, then turn 180° away from the minigun and jump on the air conditioners on the roof. Then very slowly walk off the air conditioners, walking away from the minigun: you should jump straight down from the A/Cs onto a teeny tiny ledge. You're safe from the hordes here. Just be quick with melees against any hunters/smokers, and spread out when the tank manages to climb up. Use molotovs against each tank and pipe bombs for the run to the helicopter at the end. Keep your health green if possible so you can outrun tanks.

Or there's the closet in the radio room. Two people crouch & melee, two shoot overhead, just clear out before each tank arrives.

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