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Old May 19, 2008, 05:41 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 03:41 PM #51 of 346
I pretty much had my team set in stone the moment I was handed my type. It's a good thing I already had a couple of Dragons raised, but getting the rest up to par will be a bit time-consuming.

I'm still trying to figure out if I can make Shelgon a half-decent tank.

EDIT: I've been meaning to ask this, but do we go about challenging anybody we please, or is there some sort of structure as to who we'll be facing next?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old May 19, 2008, 05:45 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 12:45 PM #52 of 346
I shouldn't be giving the competition tips, but don't forget about Spiritomb if you can get one... no weaknesses.
Not unless someone uses a fighting type that knows foresight + a fighting attack

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Old May 19, 2008, 05:46 PM #53 of 346
I've got Heracross for a no-brainer, but the rest of the list is a little trickier for me.
I imagine a Shedinja with Double Team could be a real pain in the rear.

I was speaking idiomatically.


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Old May 19, 2008, 05:57 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 12:57 PM #54 of 346
EDIT: I've been meaning to ask this, but do we go about challenging anybody we please, or is there some sort of structure as to who we'll be facing next?
Oh, you can just go around and ask any gym leader player dude if they want to battle. Just be sure to log down your progress as I mentioned a few posts ago.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 19, 2008, 05:57 PM #55 of 346
I've got Heracross for a no-brainer, but the rest of the list is a little trickier for me.
Scizor and a Drapion maybe? I'm leveling a Drapion myself because it's also Poison.

Not unless someone uses a fighting type that knows foresight + a fighting attack
Forgot about that, just such a rarity against the AI to see that happen. I just remember hating Spiritomb in the last battle, I just dragoned it to death with Palkia.

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Old May 19, 2008, 06:00 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 04:00 PM #56 of 346
Drapion's Poison/Dark, so that's a no-go. He loses his Bug type when he evolves. Scizor's okay, but... actually, I'd rather not talk about my strategy.

Josiah, I imagine that Double Team is banned. It usually is because of cheapness. Besides, it's actually really easy to hit Shedinja this generation.

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Old May 19, 2008, 06:07 PM #57 of 346
Hmmm guess that explains why Fly didn't do squate to Drapion when I was fighting the elite four. That's silly that a giant Scorpion doesn't count as bug. That's almost like a fire breathing dragon only counting as fire and flying... oh wait.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old May 19, 2008, 06:10 PM #58 of 346
Dunno, I didn't see anything saying it was banned. I lost one of my first Singles battles at the Battle Tower because the first thing the trainer pulled out was a Shedinja. Not only did I know little about that pokemon at the time, I think I also didn't have any moves out of the three I had picked that could actually hit him. Double Team with something like Confuse Ray might protect you against the types that actually will get you...unless the move's something like Aerial Ace.

Either way though, I don't have Bug or Ghost and I don't think DT is going to be part of my strategy. It might be one less headache for me if that move were banned, anyway.

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Old May 19, 2008, 06:43 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 04:43 PM #59 of 346
Oh, gotta post my friend code before I forget.

3737-6076-6955

There probably should be a list of friend codes on the first post for convenience. Anyway, if anybody would like to get an early start on their Gym Leader match, I'll be available for the rest of today. Just be sure to give me your friend code beforehand so I can add you.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old May 19, 2008, 06:58 PM #60 of 346
Good point, I'll throw mine up here too.

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I happened to get Flying, and while it's not my favorite type there's a lot more variety in there than I initially thought.

I'll need a couple of days to get ready, especially since it's my finals week, but I'll do what I can to have a relatively playable team in a few days.

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Old May 19, 2008, 07:05 PM #61 of 346
Fire types it is! I'm currently moving around so I won't have internet for about the rest of the week. But I'll let it be known when My fiery team is ready for action! And I'll get my friend code out also...

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Old May 19, 2008, 08:16 PM #62 of 346
I'm not *quite* ready yet, but if anyone wants to do battle tomorrow, I should be good by then. I just have to add some [hopefully] finishing touches [read: moves] to my team. Which means hunting down some choice TMs. Beh.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 19, 2008, 08:26 PM #63 of 346
I'm sure as hell not ready yet. ;_;

I need about two days.

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Old May 19, 2008, 08:30 PM #64 of 346
Not unless someone uses a fighting type that knows foresight + a fighting attack
I believe that there is a very, very sneaky way around this, meaning that there's a specific Fighting-type Pokemon who should be able to hit Spiritomb with a Cross Chop, yet not require Foresight.

But I won't reveal it because I want to see if Sousuke can figure it out. Sousuke got the type I was hoping for, one I'm experienced with.

So, I'm the Psychic guy. It's one of the better types, offensively. They tend to have low defenses though, and that concerns me somewhat. I'm working on my last guy and then my bench will be set. I've got access to some good dual-types at least. Chaotic's team might pose a challenge but I think I can work around that. Just gotta find me a good Weavile counter because I know I'm gonna be facing that little sumnabitch.

(I guess I'm the lone participant who can shed a tear over Wobbuffet's ban.)

Originally Posted by Generic Badass
I've got Heracross for a no-brainer, but the rest of the list is a little trickier for me.
Yeah, Heracross is a given. I wouldn't underestimate Scizor or Forretress either. Yanmega's always been a top performer for me, and I'd also consider Shuckle. You might laugh but that little guy's a tank and a half. Scyther fills gaps that Scizor's lower speed can't handle, and even Armaldo can be a tough cookie. Plus, Shedinja is always a threat toward the end of a battle.

Originally Posted by Josiah
So, yeah. Normal.
You don't realize how lucky you just might be. Normal was one of my top three preferences coming into this thing.

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Old May 19, 2008, 08:57 PM #65 of 346
Out of curiosity, why exactly is Wobuffet banned?

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Old May 19, 2008, 09:04 PM #66 of 346
Because it's moveset is entirely reactionary and mostly unfair.

This is basically the only Wobbuffet moveset you'll ever see, and you'll realize why it's pure cheese:

Counter
Mirror Coat
Encore
Destiny Bond

Its entire purpose seems to be to take something else down with it.

It's pretty slow, so all you have to do is give it a Focus Sash and even if it's OHKO'd before it acts, it'll still get a full-force Counter/Mirror Coat in before it goes down. Pretty cheesy way to play.

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Old May 19, 2008, 09:24 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 04:24 PM #67 of 346
Josiah, I imagine that Double Team is banned. It usually is because of cheapness. Besides, it's actually really easy to hit Shedinja this generation.
Actually none of those strategies are banned from this tournament. Just the Sleep Clause, Legendaries and Wobbuffet. My only reasoning behind it is that some types will be at a huge disadvantage if they were not allowed to do certain actions. Like Double Teaming.
Though I wouldn't encourage that kind of gameplay for everyone. Just focus on your strengths! Or completely throw your opponents off by doing something out of the ordinary.

Out of curiosity, why exactly is Wobuffet banned?
I like this example:
Spoiler:
"Jida sent out RAYQUAZA!"
"Go! WOBBUFFET!"
"Foe RAYQUAZA used DRAGON BREATH!"
"WOBBUFFET used Mirror Coat!"
"Foe RAYQUAZA fainted!"
"Jida sent out Salamence!"
"Foe SALAMENCE's INTIMIDATE cuts WOBBUFFET's attack!"
"Foe SALAMENCE flew up high!"
"WOBBUFFET used Encore!"
"Foe SALAMENCE got an encore!"
"Foe SALAMENCE used Fly!"
"WOBBUFFET used Counter!"
"Foe SALAMENCE fainted!"
"Jida sent out TYRANITAR!"
"Foe TYRANITAR's SAND STREAM whipped up a SANDSTORM!"
"Foe TYRANITAR used DYNAMIC PUNCH!"
"It's not very effective..."
"WOBBUFFET is now confused!"
"WOBBUFFET is confused!"
"WOBBUFFET used COUNTER!"
"Foe TYRANITAR fainted!"
"Jida sent out METAGROSS!"
"Foe METAGROSS used Meteor Mash!"
"Foe METAGROSS's attack missed!"
"WOBBUFFET used Encore!"
"Foe METAGROSS received an Encore!"
"Foe METAGROSS used Meteor Mash!"
"WOBBUFFET used Counter!"
"Foe METAGROSS fainted!"
"Jida sent out JIRACHI!"
"WOBBUFFET used DESTINY BOND!"
"WOBBUFFET is trying to take its opponent with it!"
"Foe JIRACHI used Doom Desire!"
"WOBBUFFET fainted!"
"WOBBUFFET's DESTINY BOND on Foe JIRACHI made it faint!"
"Player defeated Jida!"

I believe that there is a very, very sneaky way around this, meaning that there's a specific Fighting-type Pokemon who should be able to hit Spiritomb with a Cross Chop, yet not require Foresight.

But I won't reveal it because I want to see if Sousuke can figure it out. Sousuke got the type I was hoping for, one I'm experienced with.
Oh yeah, I remember. I trained _____ for just that reason using TM__ as the appropriate counter to Spiritombs. All I can say is, it works .

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old May 19, 2008, 09:33 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 09:33 PM #68 of 346
So many counters for Wobuffett...

heads up, do you think there will be another tournament? I wouldn't mind participating in one on the weekend of the 29th..

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Old May 19, 2008, 09:44 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 04:44 PM #69 of 346
It depends how fast we are. If we're quick about it I could hold another one by the second week of June. From what I can tell if no one is held up with anything for two weeks straight, we could be done within a week and a half from now.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 19, 2008, 09:48 PM #70 of 346
I will be in Maine for the GFF Meet all of next week, so I don't specifically know when I'll be available. I won't have any direct obligations tying me down, such as work or otherwise but I might be participating in real-life exploits some of the time too.

I'll be packing my laptop and the wi-fi USB adaptor, at any rate. I'll try to get some matches in.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 19, 2008, 09:53 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 04:53 PM #71 of 346
Ah shit, that's right. I forgot about your meet. Hopefully it won't be a problem if you have a wifi usb adapter. Internet is everywhere these days.

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Old May 20, 2008, 12:14 AM #72 of 346
I think it's still going to take me a bit of time before I get the moves I want and such.

You don't realize how lucky you just might be. Normal was one of my top three preferences coming into this thing.
I'm thinking the biggest hurdles are the fairly narrow move pools I have to work with. You do have a point though, seeing as how many of the dual-types that include Normal (in fact, all but one, Normal/Water, of which Bibarel's the only member) cancel out the Fighting weakness. Bibarel's become more tempting for getting around some types that resist normal, too.

And...the option of a stab Return? Hmmmm..


Addition: Are we supposed to post our team (and benchers, if we have any) once we have it put together? I do remember it being said somewhere that movesets weren't required to be put up, or is that going to wait until we have the actual tournament?

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Old May 21, 2008, 02:19 PM Local time: May 21, 2008, 09:19 AM #73 of 346
Alright, time to ask. How's everyone doing? ANYONE ready yet? I'm close but I'm short on a couple key moves which I should have later today.

Addition: Are we supposed to post our team (and benchers, if we have any) once we have it put together? I do remember it being said somewhere that movesets weren't required to be put up, or is that going to wait until we have the actual tournament?
Team and move pool info are not required. If you're somehow unsure about your selection I won't stop you from asking around. Having a certain element of surprise is partially why this tournament is awesome =D

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Also, I need FCs from the following players:
DarkMageOzzie
Crash Landon
radcliff13
Josiah

The rest I found at GFwiki. I assume they still work. If not, post back here and say so!

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Old May 21, 2008, 02:42 PM #74 of 346
My friend code is: 0645 2635 1419.

My team is set and ready to rumble. I do have a wi-fi USB adapter, and will take it with me on my trip.

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Old May 21, 2008, 02:45 PM #75 of 346
I'm still trying to get together all the pokemon I want with the right moves. I've got six to raise now to get the appropriate moves, but I'll still need more time to get some alternates ready. Once I feel the first six are ready I'll post my FC, I'm thinking it'll be a day or so.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.



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