Japan to ban internet users for file sharing

Originally Posted by Bradylama

I couldn't give a fuck about some Nipponjin gobbledy-gook that I can't read.

The point is that the Japanese using their own networks outside of the wider filesharing networks can't be explained away with a language barrier, because for some reason, the Russians, using a cyrillic alphabet are perfectly fine with using international filesharing networks.

I'm not saying that the language barrier is the only reason why Japanese tend to stick to their own networks (I even gave others, like not finding the stuff they want on international filesharing networks), but it is an important factor to consider. I don't know anything about Russian, so I won't comment on that, but it just happens to be easier for Europeans to browse English websites, because of linguistic similarities, than it is for the Japanese, who's closest linguistic link to the West is Turcic.

Sorry for dragging you into this Shorty, you're the only member I could think of who had a link to Japan, aside from the otaku.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Golly, why would they ever want to expand their resources from hundreds of thousands to millions of people? Man explain to me why this is so hard to understand.

Downloads at 1 mbps!? well I never

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I don't know anything about Russian, so I won't comment on that, but it just happens to be easier for Europeans to browse English websites, because of linguistic similarities, than it is for the Japanese, who's closest linguistic link to the West is Turcic.

The cyrillic alphabet derives from a completely different language tree compared to most other European languages. It's very difficult to learn for non-Russian speakers, the same as it is to learn Japanese.

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Since you're so obssessed with BT, ever been to DMHY? Or Greedland? These are just some of the Chinese bittorrent networks that predominantly focus on Japanese media, and they frequently get crossposted to Western trackers. In case you're wondering, yes, a lot of the sharers there are Japanese too.

Now shut the fuck up and learn how to use Google.

Also 1mbps seems a little slow, how about 100mbps? Jesus, you're just talking out of your ass now.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I don't see that happening in America because I remember reading somewhere that the RIAA wants to charge some 5 dollar tax to ISPs (which will more than likely funnel down to the users) and let people file share/music share as much as they want.

Trent Reznor: Why won't people pay $5? | Tech news blog - CNET News.com

So basically..the RIAA is saying, for 5 fucking dollars, pirate as much shit as you want!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Peter

Sorry for dragging you into this Shorty, you're the only member I could think of who had a link to Japan, aside from the otaku.

Eh, no harm done. I just didn't see myself as a relative example to the topic.

On the note that Japanese are totally exclusively secluding themselves to only their culture, that's not entirely true either. :3 I count 2 types of Japanese exchange students: those who come here on daddy's allowance because they fucking can (these are the ones that go to Santa Monica College, live with Japanese roommates, work under the table at Japanese restaurants in the area, and leech/borrow Japanese TV shows and watch them exclusively), and those who come here actually wanting to study the language and the culture (i.e., those that go study in places like KENTUCKY, ALABAMA, WISCONSIN, to give an example -- but that's not to say ALL Japanese exchange students studying in California aren't like that too, it's just California easily just has most feasibily easy access back to the home country, culture, FOOD most importantly, just because we have a lot of 2nd, 3rd, 4th, even 5th generations that have kept the old Japanese-American tradition alive).

I think you guys just scared most of them away from our forums since we all have a tendancy to bash them quite hard when they finally decide to speak up. But whatevers, I'm talking culture in a thread discussing Networking technology. I'll shut up.

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

Jesus, you're just talking out of your ass now.

"Just" talking out of his ass?

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Originally Posted by LeHah

And someone put a gun to your head to comment on what I posted? Or did you just do it to "hear yourself speak"?

I just felt the reference to Altavista was a dated one considering how long it's been out of the public eye. I was also very bored.

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

Since you're so obssessed with BT, ever been to DMHY? Or Greedland? These are just some of the Chinese bittorrent networks that predominantly focus on Japanese media, and they frequently get crossposted to Western trackers. In case you're wondering, yes, a lot of the sharers there are Japanese too.

Right, so because seeders get crossposted from Chinese trackers, that makes them internationalists.

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Also 1mbps seems a little slow, how about 100mbps?

Is that intra-Japan or internet? Because one is more relevant to what I meant than the other.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yeah I think they should just ban the rest of the world's internet or pieces of it that they don't agree with.

It's working great for China. I think we can all learn happy lesson.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

Right, so because seeders get crossposted from Chinese trackers, that makes them internationalists.

The problem here is you attempting to link xenophobia to file-sharing habits. Heck, I wouldn't doubt for a moment that there's plenty of reasonable evidence indicative of an insular culture, but this particular argument is ridiculous.

I'm sure you know how bittorrent works -- a critical mass of peers is necessary for it to function as intended, otherwise you're left with a bunch of primary seeders who get saddled with the bulk of uploading duties while leechers drop in and out. Moving to an "international filesharing network" isn't going to bring about a magical influx of "millions" of peer resources or this jump in throughput that you speak of. Native english speakers who have no knowledge nor interest in a foreign language (particularly Asian languages) have little practical use for these media. Out of the 10,000 kids who download weekly subs of Nipponjin Gobbledygook only a handful of them have any adequate command of the language to peruse raws. And practically none will contribute original media for obvious reasons.

Stop and think about it -- any filesharing community concentrating on a particular specialized media will congregate where the speed and resources are. You're not getting much additional input by "internationalizing" the network (which you apparently define as "shifting to an English language bittorrent tracker hosted outside Asia"), and you're certainly not getting your filez any faster. The 100Mbps network speeds I mentioned are indeed intra-Japan -- intercontinental cables are obviously even faster, but the speeds grind to a halt once you reach the "last mile" connections around most of the world. For that reason local P2P will always be several orders of magnitude faster than what an international fellowship of nerds armed with uTorrent can push through their dinky pipes. This difference in local networking architecture is why Slit-Eye Short-Dick will not enjoy the same returns shifting to western BT trackers as the Russian filesharers you mentioned, and are vastly better off sticking to networks in their own geographical proximity.

There are plenty of other factors we could go into (like anonymity, software and trading practices), but this is the most practical one worth mentioning. It's a simple cost-benefit. No need to even argue about language barriers.

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Originally Posted by Gechmir

This is pretty damn crazy. Definitely raised my brows once I saw it.

If anyone had the balls to take this up in the states, it'd be Comcast. Christ, I hate those guys...

Anyhow, it seems pretty radical. Hope this doesn't affect how I get my animu (raws are often recordings off TV, remember).

I hate Comcast too. My most hated company ever.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The evil comcast already does it. Rogers in canada too!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by axyjo

The evil comcast already does it. Rogers in canada too!

Really? I'm still waiting

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Originally Posted by Slash

Really? I'm still waiting

It's not that Comcast is locking things down for every single customer, but they are supposedly trying nonetheless. (Came across a few articles on google when our DSL was acting funny one night) It's apparently a matter of time until they watch what everyone's doing. (Or something to that effect)

While so much of this thread is debating over the Japanese use of primarily one download tool, I'm still kind of confused. Is Winny used so much over other apps that simply stopping that medium alone will fix file sharing problems, or are Japanese ISPs simply ignorant to the other common file sharing mediums?

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