Soul Calibur 3

Originally Posted by unknown_user

Well obviously you guys dont know enough about the community, so some of the statements you guys are making are just wrong.

You know, I would probably post at shoryuken if the people weren't such scrubs. They all use shorthand for moves and rubbish just to look impressive, and when you go to ask a simple question you get a complicated one: "ok, qcf+p cancel xx hyperdrive, xx change pp qcf qcf psythrust" and I'm like what.

Can we stop this now? If we think the game is broken, we don't need to enter tournaments and/or be good at the game to get an opinion out of it.

"This game appears broken. Some of the characters are ranged and others aren't, which differs the skill required for each individual character."
"Yeah, I agree."
"No guys, this game isn't broken because PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY PLAY IT are good at it!"
"Uh?"
"Uh?"
"Look, I know John, Paul, and Mike. They're all top tourney SC2 players. If this game is in a tournament, it can't be broken!"
"But who said anything about entering a tournament here?"
"OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW NOTHING, TOURNAMENTS MAKE THIS GAME BALANCED."

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Originally Posted by Elixir

You know, I would probably post at shoryuken if the people weren't such scrubs. They all use shorthand for moves and rubbish just to look impressive, and when you go to ask a simple question you get a complicated one: "ok, qcf+p cancel xx hyperdrive, xx change pp qcf qcf psythrust" and I'm like what.

Can we stop this now? If we think the game is broken, we don't need to enter tournaments and/or be good at the game to get an opinion out of it.

"This game appears broken. Some of the characters are ranged and others aren't, which differs the skill required for each individual character."
"Yeah, I agree."
"No guys, this game isn't broken because PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY PLAY IT are good at it!"
"Uh?"
"Uh?"
"Look, I know John, Paul, and Mike. They're all top tourney SC2 players. If this game is in a tournament, it can't be broken!"
"But who said anything about entering a tournament here?"
"OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW NOTHING, TOURNAMENTS MAKE THIS GAME BALANCED."

I understand the shorthand because I been around lots of fighting game losers my whole life. I feel sorry for people like you who have to deal with the idiots who abuse it though >_< if its any conselation, in fighting game related discussions I use non short hand most of the time.

Elixir, trust me, if you take the knowledge of frame data and the knowledge of how to use glitches away from idiots like Unknown and Zero, you can totally walk over them effortlessly.

I have asked people who play some fighting games at tourney level to do that for me before cause I'm new, and totally fucking raped them in every hole. o.o Course, in that one Capcom vs Snk 2 match, they started using it towards the end when they got desperate, I still won though...

Arbital 24, that guy I mentioned, thinks SC2 and Nightmare are both broken and he has prolly made more money from SC last year than Unknown and Zero ever have from games in general. So Elixir, I know you don't care about the opinions of weirdoes like them, but I have to say your opinion is more true anyways.

SC3 has more usable chars, unknown said it himself, thus proving his own point fucked.

Also, Elixir is right, you don't need to be lifeless, nerdy and spend your life away at tournaments to have an opinion of whether a game is broken in casual play. Unfortunately, its broken in competetive play too. >_>

Edit - haha omg saw your new sig, cute archer thingy ^^ What games that thing from Elix? Guessing by the art style, an rpg.

Edit 2 - x.x oh, its random

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Originally Posted by Klonoa

haha omg saw your new sig, cute archer thingy ^^ What games that thing from Elix? Guessing by the art style, an rpg.

Edit 2 - x.x oh, its random

By the looks of it, all of them are from Secret of Mana, or Seiken Densetsu. Whatever people call it nowadays.

I was totally in to SC2, but not so much this game. I don't know if it was because I played the hell out of the second and couldn't handle anymore Soul Caliber, or because I constantly get my ass handed to me. Maybe I should try getting back into it. Does anybody know of a way to send each other their created characters?

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No, theres no way. If you find a way to take a screen pic with a camera, I'm always interested in shit like that o.o I'm odd, yup.

It is prolly cause you played the fuck out of the second, and just about everyone found 3 to be a dissapointment at first, and hard to get hooked to. And meh, I respect any player whos friendly more than any arrogant or skilled tourney player. So dun worry bout losing.

Soph is a good start for a char, shes balanced and one of the top charries. Some of her moves - maybe one, dunno, I know theres one major one - are glitchy and abusable, you might find em. If you refrain from em, shes very fun to use, and can teach a great deal about the game. You can go far with her too. Careful cause shes banned in some tourneys, if not all, but no one cares about tourneys except glitch users and vcers (VCs a frame cancel glitch) anyway, and frame data analyzers.

If your really bad just practice against the Extremely Hard cpu in Quick Play till you consistantly beat them, which may take seasons of constant practice or weeks depending on how good you are. (Took me only a few hours within first playing Soul Calibur in general... But I'm just obsessed.) But being a quick learner doesn't mean your limits are higher than a slow learners. Then fight real people, good ones, and learn to mind game, which you can't vs the cpu.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I was talkin about sc.com, not shoryuken, shoryuken is for 2d fighters mostly. And way to completely mix up what i said elixir. I never said that since sc is in tournaments its not broken. Klonoa, in case you didnt know, the USA have the best players for SC, one reason because they travel for it. So if your friend would come to the states and play, would be a different story for him. Back in 2004, there was a world tourney in France, ppl from all over went, they had the 5 best from usa, france, belgium, canada, and a few other countries. USA dominated everyone except a few ppl from the france team. In the end team usa won it. One of the players who went from usa lives about 15 minutes away from me. So I think id know a little more than you guys. Especially since you dont pay attention to the community. Also what is this glitch move you speak of w/ soph? If your talkin about 11AA, the fast unblockable, thats far from glitchy.

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He fucking travels everywhere for his tourneys, Gencon, everywhere... All over from asia, france and everything. Hes wrecked in alot of places, I doubt USA is exempt. I'll try and get in contact and let you know. Hes prolly earnt more money from that shit ass game than you earnt in your life though, so its okay.

11AA... Yeah, its apparentally banned. It looked glitchy enough to me, mefriend. It wrecks more than VC on steroids. So 'shup.

And here you fucking go AGAIN.

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One of the players who went from usa lives about 15 minutes away from me. So I think id know a little more than you guys. Especially since you dont pay attention to the community.

Here we go with the "I'm better than you cause my friend can play tourneys." What? No one cares. Yes, you're right. I don't give a shit about the community of a 3D fighting game I hardly fucking play.

Thus the ammount of hours I got in it is less. SC pays like shit, even 'my friend' (who I dun even know too well) said that. No point learning frame data, (BORING) glitches (WORSE) and spending tons of time on the community and practicing the meta when it pays like shit, and, plays like shit. At tourney level.

Yes, once the VCing and other tedious shit begins, SC has some skill at top level. Nowhere near as much as Counterstrike, or anything mildly better (haha Marvel vs Capcom 2 has more usable chars than SC2) cause that wouldn't be like Namco to make anything interesting. But you can play it without your dick falling off. Just about.

As for low level play, its a masher. Peroid. Put a beginner who knows some of the moves mildly vs a chav, chav does at least 30%.

Soul Calibur is good, its probably however one of the most fucking boring, glitch riddled, frame analyzing obsessed and unbalanced meta games. EVER. And pays like mud for the trouble. Unlike good games which may most of the time pay like mud at top level, its... Not good enough to fucking wanna metagame.

Arbital for his general videogaming skills has been featured in UKs Edge magazine for an article. That pays. Unbalanced and monotonous SC tourneys don't.

Also, you sound like a general sc.com user. You can't use caps well, have a scrubby name, plunge your paragraph in one piece, and try to act high and mighty and the mature one. Do you guys have a virus going around there? >_<

And yes, I can prolly be better than you at it too. If I bothered learning frame analysis, getting the money to travel to SC heavy areas, and how to abuse tourney legal glitches. I can easily learn a charrie inside out, and if I wasted a speckle of my time on it, yes, I could prolly wreck you. I'm inclined to think I can now too, but you'd be doubtful if I said that.

Unfortunately SC blows too much to play at tourney level. kthx

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haha, you think that unblockable is so bad its bannable, and they actually ban it in tourneys over there? Damn, that says alot about the players there. They cant see a low move and block it on reaction i guess. That proves right there how bad they are.

Maybe he has earned more money than me in games than i have, im still confident i could destroy him in it. NM isnt all that great. And no, tourney play doesnt even use VC all that much. If theres gamebreaking glitches in sc3, id sure like to hear them.

Plus you think Marvel has more useable charcacters than sc2? Damn, you just really dont know anything about the game it seems. Marvel has 4 main characters to play with, plus good assists. All others are crap. Sc2 got at least 10 characters goin for them for top play. But you dont even know about that and you claim that im wrong when im not. You can say im wrong, but I know im right because unlike you im part of the SC community, and care about it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Klonoa

Elixir, trust me, if you take the knowledge of frame data and the knowledge of how to use glitches away from idiots like Unknown and Zero, you can totally walk over them effortlessly.

All fighting games (T5DR, GGXX/, KOFXI, etc.) are like that. Experienced veteran or top player should never lose to newcomers. It like professional racer against some guy who start race for 10 minutes.

In SC3 tourney, everything is allowed. There is no gamebreaking glitch in this game unlike Lizardman's glitch throw in SC2.

Klonoa, if you aren't into fighters, why bother reply. Unknown and I just give some knowledge to people who want to get into fighter. You just make yourself look retard. "Effortlessly" you said? What happened if you encounter a player who abuse same glitch as you?

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Originally Posted by unknown_user

haha, you think that unblockable is so bad its bannable, and they actually ban it in tourneys over there? Damn, that says alot about the players there. They cant see a low move and block it on reaction i guess. That proves right there how bad they are.

Maybe he has earned more money than me in games than i have, im still confident i could destroy him in it. NM isnt all that great. And no, tourney play doesnt even use VC all that much. If theres gamebreaking glitches in sc3, id sure like to hear them.

Plus you think Marvel has more useable charcacters than sc2? Damn, you just really dont know anything about the game it seems. Marvel has 4 main characters to play with, plus good assists. All others are crap. Sc2 got at least 10 characters goin for them for top play. But you dont even know about that and you claim that im wrong when im not. You can say im wrong, but I know im right because unlike you im part of the SC community, and care about it.

They ban it in general tourneys, the unblockable, according to Arbital. also, James Arnold Stanton/Arbital 24 also said apparentally that USAs players suck at SC. Hes already wrecked over there, apparentally. Considering his general gaming earns from Soul Calibur tournaments last year, including the top ones (Gen Con, not shitty namco SC nationals) that totalled over 20,000£ on SC2 alone, (played other games) and considering he was featured in Edge and no one you know ever will be, I think hes more trustable. His 160,000 he raked in last year said so, so does the tournament records.

He won the counterstrike UK national last year too x.x I think, which is part of the reason for his huge income.

Marvel has 4 overpowered chars, but others are still mildly usable. SC2 had 3 usable chars. Peroid.

How much a year do you earn from SC? I'm guessing as a tourney gamer, you'd be earning your 13,000+ a year gaming on it. If you believe your so much better than this guy, considering his views counteract yours and hes earnt more. From USA too, scrub. Japan, france and everywhere too.

The guy knows every bit of frame data on the game, start up frames, ending frames, execution frames. My bf - whos the one who knows him personally, not me - confirmed this by asking him several questions about Taki's posession stance, since thats my bfs fave stance in the game. He doesn't even like the game that much.

My bf used to be better at counterstrike than him during the time they played together a few years back when that psycho played it, before he reached the level he is now. Even though he doesn't know as much about fighting games as he does about more pvp/pc orientated games, he knows his share, and said that if I knew all the glitches in the game and BOTHERED with SCs stupid ammount of frame data knowledge, and abused it constantly, I could prolly take a high ammount of Stantons health off. if not win. Easily.

Judging players off their country doesn't work with the dedicated, friend.

Edit - Zero, I'm totally ignoring your existence from this point onward. Its... kinda not there. I like fighting games. Alot. SC is one I find fun in moderate doses, and one I find horribly tedious to play at high level. The Stanton tard apparentally finds SC the best fighting game, though he doesn't really like it much anyway. So there is appeal. Alot of it. It sold. Its also extremely homo erotic to me to play constantly.

3-4 hours a day at max for me with that game x.x

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Originally Posted by Klonoa

They ban it in general tourneys, the unblockable, according to Arbital. also, James Arnold Stanton/Arbital 24 also said apparentally that USAs players suck at SC. Hes already wrecked over there, apparentally.

haha, im supposed to believe that? Why wasnt he in the big tournament in 2004 then? Plus they ban an unblockable that you guys think is cheap, thats proof right there that you guys arent that good. You can say otherwise, but I know what im talking about.

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Marvel has 4 overpowered chars, but others are still mildly usable. SC2 had 3 usable chars. Peroid.

LOL, just stop. Your just not making any sense anymore. 3 characters usable....maybe over there, where players arent good enough to win with others. At least 8 that can win in high play. I dont see how you can say Talim, Mitsurugi, Voldo, Yoshi, and a couple others arent capable of winning. It boggles my mind really. If you dont know about high play, dont talk about it please.

edit- Your a girl? And you said you could beat me if you learned the game? Sorry but girls dont have the mentality to be really good at fighting games. Dont say otherwise or make excuses, theres not 1 top player in a competitive fighting game thats a girl.

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Originally Posted by Zero'

You just make yourself look retard.

That's the funniest and most ironic thing I've heard in a while.

Anyways, what the hell guys! Where's the love! Who cares if the game has more balanced/unbalanced characters! In the end, what does it prove anyways? Who knows more about the game?

We should be discussing character storylines and what additions would make SC4 even better than its predecessors (when it comes out, IF it comes out)! Hell, do you guys think it would make a PS3 release before a PS2?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by unknown_user

haha, im supposed to believe that? Why wasnt he in the big tournament in 2004 then? Plus they ban an unblockable that you guys think is cheap, thats proof right there that you guys arent that good. You can say otherwise, but I know what im talking about.



LOL, just stop. Your just not making any sense anymore. 3 characters usable....maybe over there, where players arent good enough to win with others. At least 8 that can win in high play. I dont see how you can say Talim, Mitsurugi, Voldo, Yoshi, and a couple others arent capable of winning. It boggles my mind really. If you dont know about high play, dont talk about it please.

edit- Your a girl? And you said you could beat me if you learned the game? Sorry but girls dont have the mentality to be really good at fighting games. Dont say otherwise or make excuses, theres not 1 top player in a competitive fighting game thats a girl.

awesome, your sexist too. Unfortunately I'm a guy. (Bi, but pretty sure I have a dick) Shut up.

There are 3 characters in SC that guarantie a win much easier than others. Arbitle usually judges on the highest chance of winning, cause hes a money and victory whore. Not who can possibly win. He basically meant that in SC3 the chances of winning are more equal from character to character.

I dunno about SCs big tourneys, the game sucks, I don't play it much. I'll ask the dude personally the next I decide to poke fun at him what tourneys he been to.

If you want proof he was featured in Edge for being superior (more superior than you) I'll find an article from a friend of mine and scan it in soon.

If you played me on Guilty Gear, then I shall have you know that X2 (any mix of it) is one game I never lose a player match on. Ever. Because, its actually a game I care about. No, I don't know much about SCs high level play, I can just trash people who partake in it unless they're high end players. Arbital prolly knows more than either of us though, so stfu.

You never answered my question either. How much a year do you earn playing games? Preferably sc

How ya doing, buddy?

Ok, I assumed wrong, your a guy. Im bi too actually.

Ive only travelled to a few big ones that had 1k payouts. I only play that and halo1 competitively, a shame h2 sucks. And won a few of them, some got 3rd or 4th. But i didnt really have to travel for competition because I got some of the best comp a few miles away. Stant might be superior than me being known, but i still say id be a better player than he is at it. If he would play NTSC sc3, he'd see that X is the best in it, because she has all the good stuff, while most other characters in that game have nothing. Arbital might know more about the sc community that goes down over there, but not the sc community as a whole and what goes on in it. I dont play guilty gear, but theres a pretty big guilty gear scene here, and some really good players too.

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Does anyone happen to know a fix for the memory card glitch? I tried deleting just the SCIII data and the corrupted data I found on the card, but it was still giving me problems when I tried saving a new game.

Anyway, I copied all my files to a friend's memory card and copied them back, and I'm hoping that will help fix the problem.

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The only way around the glitch is to create a Soul Calibur III save file on a brand new, formatted card, and in the first save slot.

Also, the problem with Soul Calibur III become immediately apparent once I saw the involvement of the TEKKEN team in the credits.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well, I only rented the game, so I don't care about the SCIII info. It's just that after I deleted my SCIII file, it still wouldn't let me make a Shadow of the Colossus save file. It said there was an error saving the data, and then said there was no memory card inserted. =/

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Your card is corrupted, and you need to format it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Meh, I kinda liked SC III. But then again I only play Maxi and Klik. They did however really nerf Kilk's kick but eh he's still bad ass as ever.

Though I can see where you say Talim got nerfed but a lot of people readjusted for it.

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Originally Posted by unknown_user

Your a girl? And you said you could beat me if you learned the game? Sorry but girls dont have the mentality to be really good at fighting games. Dont say otherwise or make excuses, theres not 1 top player in a competitive fighting game thats a girl.

WTF is this garbage? Girls don't have the mentality to be good at fighting games? They don't have to come out and win tournaments just to solidify themselves as being "good" at fighting games. That's like hypothetically saying because there are no 27 year old top fighting game players, that 27 year olds suck at fighting games.

Also Skexis, that glitch occurs almost exclusively during the Chronicles and there's no way around it if it triggers. Turning off auto-saving and then going in and manually saving the game yourself through the menus while playing the Chronicles is a good way to avoid it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I didnt mean to offend anyone with that statement, its true though, when i meant by good is tournament play. I pay attention to mostly all fighting game scenes, and all of them dont have 1 girl in it. I personally think because it doesnt interest them enough to play it alot or some other reasons.

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No, I guess it's because they don't have to prove themselves to their peers - "Look how I can whip your butt across the stage, dude! Am I teh shit or what???" Participating in fighting game tournaments boils down to showing off, and IMHO that's what's not generally in a woman's nature.

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I was just wondering though, what would be examples of a balanced fighting game. Surely there might not even really exist one. It's just a case of whether the differences between any two characters are extreme, I mean, any advantages over another character are surely exploited by those who know.

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SC2 and Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection are fairly balanced. Theres still a some characters who are better than others. A completely balanced fighting game dont exist though.

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Originally Posted by electric_eye

I was just wondering though, what would be examples of a balanced fighting game. Surely there might not even really exist one. It's just a case of whether the differences between any two characters are extreme, I mean, any advantages over another character are surely exploited by those who know.

Capcom vs. SNK 2, 3rd Strike, GGXX #Reload.

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I dunno about that Lix. The tiers in 3rd Strike are extremely apparent. Chun Li compared to, well, just about anyone else, for example.

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