22yr old Arrested for raping 13 yr old met online

Originally Posted by a lurker

Of course, you don't think you were poorly affected by this. After all, you feel normal, right? You don't feel irrevokably damaged. Well, lest anyone thinks that statutory rape on a 13 year old boy doesn't affect the boy, here is proof positive.
Sociopaths think that Ace Combat is the greatest thing ever made, rather than the awesomeness of Cave Story, having been skullraped by millions of italian sausage cocks as children.

You're arguing with the posterboy for irrevocably damaged over there, don't even bother.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I think we can reach a breakthrough here, to be honest. I think we can cut through the defensive mechanisms and start the healing.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I'm ears. I wouldn't mind seeing Rainman break down and confess all the details of his childhood filled of sodomy.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Bradylama

It is not normal to have been sexually active at 13. It's not normal at all.

But the sad thing is it happens, I remember back in school how 13 and 14 year olds would brag how hey lost their virginity over the weekend, I would like to think they where making it up, but these days it's hard to tell.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Bradylama

Before you dig any deeper holes with droll reasoning and overreactions.

Originally Posted by Bradylama

Are you fucking daft?

Originally Posted by Bradylama

I am right, lurker is right, Dev is right, and you are out of your fucking mind if you think that 13 year olds can make informed decisions concerning sexual behavior.

You are immature.

Originally Posted by D-Loc

I'm ears. I wouldn't mind seeing Rainman break down and confess all the details of his childhood filled of sodomy.

Yea, I guess you need some new jerkoff material to accompany the plethora of beastiality and german scat vids which line your hard drive. Go read a book you tool!

Originally Posted by a lurker

I think we can reach a breakthrough here, to be honest.

lol.

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You are immature.

NO U

"Oh this rape here might not be so bad, why are you getting so angry?"

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I guess it's easy to see rape secreting from every dark alley's orifices when rainman is the lawyer for the defense. He's probably outside lurking in a trenchcoat in a park in the hundred degree weather right now.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I have been reading this thread over and over.... I fail to see how Rainizzle is justifying this crime. Ture what this woman did was wrong and she did prey on his naive age, but don't forget it is the 'law' that says 13 year olds are incapable of giving consent, 13 year old kids today do have the ability to say 'yes' or 'no' wither it is under manipulation or not, if the kid knew the meaning behind his answer is a case by case basis, the law does not say that someone considerd minor cannot say yes or no.

Yes this boy most likely did not know what he was doing, and yes the woman most likely preyed on him because of his naive age, but the point is that the idea that kids his age are 'incapable' of saying the words yes or no is preposterous, when I was 13 I said 'no' many times when I was told to wash the dishes or clean my room.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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when I was 13 I said 'no' many times when I was told to wash the dishes or clean my room.

Aw man. How can you not get this?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Ghetto Fabulous D. Loco

I handled it fine at 13 why can't you let this kid.

You're a fucking joke Rainman. Is there anything more pathetic than a victim trying to justify the same crime dealt to someone else?

I didn't say I was 13, I said I was around that age and its clear through my commentary leading up to this point that 'victim' is not a term which is free of argument. I have mentioned this many times, and yet it keeps slipping through your fumblesome fingers. Its making you look like quite the tard.

Now that we have that out of the way, I don't believe you really have anything else of substance to say, hmm?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

There are a couple of ages around that age. Two of them, in fact.

Do not act like a faggot if you cannot communicate.

How ya doing, buddy?

So I am a faggot now? (And you think I can't communicate?) Not only are you racist, but a homophobe as well. (neither instance is surprising) Its all becoming quite clear regarding the conservative and supposed rationale that you bring forth. Let me ask you, are you a Republican? lol

I didn't state my age implicitly. Get over it.

Originally Posted by Chibi Neko

I have been reading this thread over and over.... I fail to see how Rainizzle is justifying this crime.

I appreciate your reading comprehension, but you should be weary. These fine folks might burn you at the stake for these transgressions.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Around here, nigger and faggot are like pal and chum. Brady is a loony libertarian. You did, in fact, state your age implicitly, but not explicitly. And it's 'wary'. That's four strikes in four statements, gg.

FELIPE NO

As a loony libertarian I support the right of every Arab to set fire to his local McAckbar's.

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Not only are you racist

Being open-minded doesn't mean you have to accept all backwards superstitious nonsense because it's different from the way you live. At some point you have to come to terms with the fact that many aspects of a culture are wrong, and simply because they are different from you does not make it ok.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Do you have any idea how much a person's brain can grow and mature around thirteen? I'm betting if you were "around 13", you were probably closer to 15. That is significant.

Do you think a thirteen year old has the capabilities to deal with a pregnancy he caused?



Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Ghetto Fabulous D. Loco

The kid can't even hold a legitimate job at 13. Maybe some under the table assistant, but who's gonna bother risking that?

You've quite firmly established that you think that every 13 year old is a drooling retard in nappies, you can only beat it to death so much. You make an automatic leap from being too young to understand the consequences to walking away from it with PTSD and lifelong regret without explaining. For instance, quite a few 13 year olds do work in the US, some for fun, some to escape a bad home, some as a family obligation, some because they have no money and no choice. Certainly nowhere near the majority. Some kids that young drive too, usually off public roads - where it's legal. (Some study or another found that older teens who started driving young make the safest teen drivers, on average, though it didn't recommend lowering the legal limit. Kids are, after all, short, overconfident, and prone to panic.)

This is much more like smoking, something kids want to do (or get cajoled into), aren't really prepared for, don't want to know the long-term consequences of, get it offered by someone older who definitely does know, and of course it's illegal. Neither is healthy long-term. The chance that it's going to screw up someone's life is still just that, a chance. (Pedophilia and smoking clearly have quite different effects though.) Do you also think offering a kid some cigarettes while stressing before a final exam is as loathsome and predatory? Would you agree that anyone who did should be locked up and have their name put in a public registry?

And if the situation is reversed? It's possible, still, but since girls are taught from day one to never give it up, they generally place far less emphasis on sex until later in life, as well as the physical pain and internal violation, it's much more common that they have to coerced into sex, and more likely that they'll be unable to cope. That's one real reason adult female pedophiles with pubescent boys are rarely heard of - a boy's reaction with a woman doesn't often rise much above the level of embarrassment, because it's seen as just a game. (Until the woman goes mental, or gets pregnant.)

When it's teachers, coaches, or other authority figures, it wildly distorts the balance of power and may tremendously affect the ability to learn in school, as well as keeping total coercive power over a student. It's not something I'd ever condone.

I don't know if you're just baiting or if you really think the guy is going to need years of therapy to get over the anguish of having sex (or switch from a gaming nerd to a macho wifebeater over it, as brady implies). I do know the woman is probably going to get the counseling she needs in prison. I don't even know why I care so much about it, but the thread did convince me to go hunting for research, since I didn't know enough. It just bothers the hell out of me that you immediately demonize anyone involved in a combination of ages & sexes that has a lower chance of mind-fucking someone, in a situation where the boy invited her into his home, because it doesn't fit into your (and my) general revulsion of pedophiles.

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Do you also think offering a kid some cigarettes while stressing before a final exam is as loathsome and predatory? Would you agree that anyone who did should be locked up and have their name put in a public registry?

I don't recall a heapin' hunka hurtin' for Virginia Slims when I was 15. Though, yeah, I think that somebody who pushes cigs on kids because it will calm them down is predatory, and should at least be locked up for selling cigarettes to kids.

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(or switch from a gaming nerd to a macho wifebeater over it, as brady implies)

All I said was that he'd turn out to be an asshole, I didn't say he'd hit women.

Asshole.

Even without being an Authority Figure, the sheer difference in age gives her significant power over the kid.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I can't believe you actually need someone to say that it is highly unlikely that this boy has or will suffer as much as someone who was violently raped. Christ.

All anyone's saying is that suggesting the boy wasn't manipulated, and that statutory rape isn't really rape, is ridiculous and worthy of scorn and suggestive of a fetish for incestuous, pedophiliac roleplay.

And yes, if a 22 year old offered a 13 year old cigarettes touting them as a relaxant, that would be predatory.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

And I'm saying I hung around a few guys in junior and high school who dressed fashionably, fancied themselves lady's men, and hit on women young and old when they could. The big difference being that women found it charming but otherwise unmoved. (One did claim he'd tapped that, at 15, but it turned out to be a chubby white trash mom, and he stopped bragging when someone passed a photo around. He got more nerdy over the years, but last I heard he was doing great in a finance major. And on the flip side, one of my teachers was teasing/harassing the kids in crude ways he thought was funny, until he was suspended after making one cry.)

I can't believe you guys actually think it's impossible for a young teen to be horny and manipulative liars, is all. They were both manipulating each other, consciously or unconsciously, as people do. The entire crux of the predation argument centers on how much she wanted the result from the beginning versus how much was a pathetic e-crush that got carried away. There are psychological states that are even easier to manipulate than childhood immaturity - she could easily be a predator who stalks kids on games, or opportunistically pursued once they bonded, and chances are good it's or the other, or a weepy post-divorce vagina with an LJ, a welfare check, and too much free time spent gaming all day.

I guess you just have to forgive me for thinking that a broken weepy vagina isn't as bad as someone who looks for children to 'love'.

I was speaking idiomatically.

are you seriously

seriously

telling me a 13 year old can and did manipulate an adult into having sex

also you seem to think we are saying that all predators are equally dangerous, please stop that

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by a lurker

are you seriously

seriously

telling me a 13 year old can and did manipulate an adult into having sex

I don't think it's impossible, the adult would have to be quite gullible though.

FELIPE NO

No, she just would have had to have been legally retarded.

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Yes I know at least one personally. You know they're out there, they're usually the ones who grow up to be predators and/or sociopaths.

Well anyway I realized shortly after posting that I was projecting some of my own online mistakes of 4-5 years ago onto the situation. Mistakes like quiet fox, tifa, typhin, and belgara all seemed like great ideas when I was as mentally screwed up as they were.

With that resolved, fuck off and die, you geriatric infant-loving bitchniggercunts.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I think we're forgetting who is saying that a thirteen year old boy can seduce a grown woman. (it's you)

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grown physically != grown mentally

So you've never know college-age men and women who act for all the world like large children? Lucky, I guess.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.