V for Vendetta

Ah, I've watched the screening of this last week. V for Vendetta is one of the best movies of 2006, so far anyway. Has anyone seen it in IMAX?

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Originally Posted by cubed

I got in 10 minutes before it started. My theater is managed by a moron. I'm not surprised he would have cut that trailer off. Right after the Superman Returns trailer, there's no notification that it is now the "feature presentation". It starts with the Warner Bros and the DC Comics logo.

Different prints for the movies usually have different trailers. For instance, in my theater, Silent Hill is only on one of the prints, and they have X3 in it's place.

I'm pretty sure that Superman Returns and Poseidon are the "attached trailers" that come with every print of V, so I'd be willing to bet there was a fuckup with the trailers in one way or another there.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

If that's the case, then why not base the movie in America, and have V blow up Congress? If Spielberg could get away with properly Americanizing his dreadful version of War of the Worlds, why shouldn't the Wachowski's have done the same for a message intended for Americans?

War of the Worlds has been "Amercanized" since 1938, don't hold it against Spielberg.

As for V:
I loved the film. It's a great revenge story, and revenge stories are always enjoyable. I laughed at V's favorite film, "The Count of Monte Cristo", my favorite revenge story. It was a good movie, and though I haven't read the graphic novel, I can at least say that there's no way it's a discredit to the source material. It's a far cry from Extrodinary Gentleman, one of the worst movies I've seen in recent memory.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I would like to hear the opinion of someone who has read the graphic novel. I'm also curious as to what went so wrong that Alan Moore called the plot "imbecilic".

Personally I thought the comic was good, but not that great. I know that in the 80's UK context it makes sense, but the big evil fascist government thing was just way too similar to the nazis for me to really take seriously - it just seemed too one-dimensional and predictable. Still, it was decent pulp I guess.

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I just saw this last night, I found it very entertaining and while I have not read the comics it appears to have compressed them quite well. Though I still am wondering how he picked up the crazy martial arts and knife skills. Oh, and I wish I got something better than a crappy poseidon trailer and the Superman Returns trailer I have already seen a dozen times. I really want to see that Silent Hill trailer!

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I just got back from seeing it and besides Natalie Portman and the Benny Hill sequence, the movie wasn't that great. But it was better than Ultraviolet by leaps and bounds.

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I really enjoyed the movie. It wasn't a slam-bam action thriller or anything, but the character interaction was well fleshed out. And V is the ultimate well-spoken badass!

He was pretty damned funny, too!

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War of the Worlds has been "Amercanized" since 1938, don't hold it against Spielberg.

To be fair, Orson Welles accidentally convinced millions of Americans that they were being invaded by Martians. Orson Welles also included the gas. What did Spielberg do?

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Originally Posted by Morrigan

I would like to hear the opinion of someone who has read the graphic novel. I'm also curious as to what went so wrong that Alan Moore called the plot "imbecilic".

I read the comics and I found the movie to be a bit more enjoyable. Certain aspects of it at least. Frankly I just think Alan Moore is a whiny cunt and nobody could EVER do a movie how he would want it. To be fair though, he's probably a little distrustful after what happened to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and From Hell (Which also wasn't too bad).

In the end though, I'd rather watch the movie than read the comics. And no, it's not because I'm some retard who hates reading and likes purty moving pictures instead, I just find the former more entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Jessykins &lt

To be fair though, he's probably a little distrustful after what happened to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and From Hell (Which also wasn't too bad).

Keep in mind, Alan Moore is the type of person that would engrave bricks with the symbol of Christ if he were to build a church, just for the greater glory of God. Theres so many itty bitty things in Leauge Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, so to see it as such a bad movie is disheartening.

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Originally Posted by Neogin

V for Vendetta is one of the best movies of 2006, so far anyway.

THE best movie of 2006 so far.

Not that that, uh, says much. But it rocks.

I was speaking idiomatically.

A showing I did attend; I watched this at Universal City IMAX last Friday at midnight (early Saturday), and the IMAX theatre was particularly worthwile during the explosions and other action scenes. Anyhow, it was a great movie (though I felt it just got a little redundant in some areas near the end). As far as the W bros. are concerned, this beats the hell out of the shitty Matrix sequels; that's for damn certain. Agreeing with others here, this is definitely a movie to end ths shit streak of films in '06. Also, can someone tell me why Hugo Weaving is awesome.

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I liked it, but I wish it had been more vague. I guess it had to be to get it's underlying (not really) message across.

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I saw the movie yesterday and enjoyed it immensely. There are a few things that bother me (like how he could see with no eyes), but that doesn't take away from the splendidness of this movie. What I am truly curious about is why Alan Moore took his name from the project.

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym

I saw the movie yesterday and enjoyed it immensely. There are a few things that bother me (like how he could see with no eyes), but that doesn't take away from the splendidness of this movie. What I am truly curious about is why Alan Moore took his name from the project.

Because V, like Constantine, is one of the properties that he does not own himself. And because when he blatantly said that he would not comment on the movie and wanted no part in it, Joel Silver went behind his back and told everyone that he "was very excited about it".

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I'm in the middle of the book right now and ... is it just me or shouldn't this even be an action movie? Sure, there are some explosions, 'couple of fight scenes and a stylish entry by V now and then but so far it's really just there to spice up a dialogue and atmosphere driven story.

My resolve to avoid the movie is fading though, since I heard that Hugo Weaving plays the main character. But if I'm going to watch it, I'll wait until the DVD becomes available. They dub everything in Germany and it just kills the experience...

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I saw it last night, awesome movie. Definitely surprised me, I expected a typical action movie.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII

I'm in the middle of the book right now and ... is it just me or shouldn't this even be an action movie?

It's not.

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In case anyone wanted the ending song (which is not on the OST) heres the site for the guy who actually composed the music.
http://www.myspace.com/ethanstoller
You can buy the song directly from him apparently...

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I finally saw the movie. I really enjoyed it. Good performances all around, good action and just plain fun. It really made me want to get off of my lazy ass and read the comics sitting on my hard drive.

I really hope that people actually try to get Mr. Moore involved in the film making process of any future conversions of his works. Look at what good came out of doing that with Sin City.

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I saw the movie last night, and was amazed...I had been anticipating this film for some time and was not disappointed. The story was great, and everything fit in perfectly! Natalie Portman was pure gold, and V was quite amusing...One of the best movies I've seen to fit a mix with that humor and action...which were all top-notch...I'm recommending this movie to just about everyone I see!

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Saw it last night, and very much enjoyed it. Very well done, and I'm quite quite happy they didn't Matrix it up too bad.

Halfway through the graphic novel now, and from what I can see they did change some things, but nothing that destroyed the original. It just made it work better in a different medium. Moore is notorious for his dislike to film adaptation and would honestly not be happy unless they did a panel for panel film version.

However one thing that I was a little confused about;

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At the end after the death of V and the destruction of Parliament with the crowd looking on, they remove their masks and we are shown the faces of the little girl with glasses and the lesbian couple. I was under the impression that they had both died (the girl by being shot and starting the riot and the couple by way of the camps). I'm sure there is some sort of symbolism here, but I really just don't get it. Can someone explain?

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The thing is that V wasn't just a person...he represented an idea and everyone who ever fought for that idea. Thus everyone who died fighting was also represented by his mask.

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Yeah that's pretty much what I figured it was about, but wasn't too sure. Gracias.

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Originally Posted by Morrigan

I'm also curious as to what went so wrong that Alan Moore called the plot "imbecilic".

Here's an interview where Moore articulates his complaints. Basically, he didn't like what he saw as a change from the orginial "anarchy versus fascism" angle to "current American neo-conservatism vs. current American liberalism". League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and the twisting of his words to make it sound like he supported the film didn't help.

I haven't watched the film, nor read the comic so I can't comment on the accuracy of his complaints.

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