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[Multiplatform] Ivalice Alliance
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 11:10 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 01:40 AM #51 of 180
Originally Posted by Kostaki
The story takes place in the now-familiar world of Ivalice where the twin protagonists Yuri and Chierinka reside. While four races occupy this version of Ivalice, none have been specifically mentioned.

Source: http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2006/121506a.html
The source was already edited, so just a misunderstanding of the reporter?

Be it true or not, whatever. I love the mediaeval atmospheres that Matsuno and his followers created, but I'm not a fan of the world Ivalice in the least, especially when it's just Star Wars-esque like FFXII. The Vana diel (FFXI's world) is much more attractive IMO.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 11:49 AM #52 of 180
Originally Posted by Kostaki
Crystal Chronicles DS has been confirmed to be in Ivalice as well.



Make of it what you will.
That's pretty much BS. Not of the articles in Jump mention that, so I have no I dea where this came from.

BTW, Matsuno actually has never mention that VS takes place in FFT not even the VS Ultimaina.

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Also some FFT PSP info:

- New episodes, jobs and characters
- Wifi battles (not confirmed for online)
- Movies have no voice
- Narrator is Wakamoto (!)

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 11:59 AM #53 of 180
Originally Posted by Taisai
The source was already edited, so just a misunderstanding of the reporter?

Be it true or not, whatever. I love the mediaeval atmospheres that Matsuno and his followers created, but I'm not a fan of the world Ivalice in the least, especially when it's just Star Wars-esque like FFXII. The Vana diel (FFXI's world) is much more attractive IMO.
Go shoot yourself. Just kidding, but Vana'diel better than FFXII's Ivalice? I think not. If the game had a day/night cycle it would've been icing on a game that had a fantastic world. I'm just disappointed that they threw out CC's world in order to fit this into Ivalice.

Oh, and here's more reason to get the PSP version of FFT:



Damn.

Wow, took a little too long. =/

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 12:27 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 10:27 AM #54 of 180
Originally Posted by Jagged
BTW, Matsuno actually has never mention that VS takes place in FFT not even the VS Ultimaina.
While that statement is true, there are a lot of points where it implies that VS takes place in Ivalice. The evidence mostly comes from:

- The fact that Ashley Riot is a member of the Valendian Knights of the Peace. There is a separate continent named Valendia in Ivalice.

- Durai being the historian/chronicler in both of those games.

On my end, I'm looking forwards to seeing Ivalice take on a darker atmosphere as seen in FFT and VS. Anything like what came out of FFTA would just ruin it entirely.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 03:10 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 10:10 PM #55 of 180
I'd be interested in a complete map of Ivalice with all the continents and locations that appear in Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics and XII. Does such a thing even exist?

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 03:48 PM #56 of 180
Originally Posted by Rock
I'd be interested in a complete map of Ivalice with all the continents and locations that appear in Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics and XII. Does such a thing even exist?
Isn't the background of the FFT PSP website a map of Ivalice? We don't even need a map, as XII lays things out pretty well:

To the west of the Sandsea is Rozzaria (continent of Ordalia?)
To the south of Rabanastre is Kerwon
Dalmasca is on the Galtean penisula (IIRC)

As for Archades, didn't someone mention it's in Valendia?

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 04:22 PM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 06:52 AM #57 of 180
Originally Posted by Rock
I'd be interested in a complete map of Ivalice with all the continents and locations that appear in Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy Tactics and XII. Does such a thing even exist?
Nah, there aren't any official map that covers multiple Ivalice games AFAIK, though some fans created it on a temporary basis, like this or that. As the FFXII world was once ruined by the catastrophe, I suppose the configuration of the earth's surface would be different.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 04:58 PM #58 of 180
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8042

Damn. If every single cutscene has been redone with cellshaded graphics and voice acting, then this is a guaranteed day one purchase for me. These are the kind of games that can save the PSP.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 05:26 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 04:26 PM #59 of 180
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Please Vagrant Story 2, please Vagrant Story 2, please Vagrant Story 2...
That and a Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together remake and I will die a happy woman.

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I truly hope SquareEnix have the common sense not to fuck with a legendary game like Final Fantasy Tactics. An updated port for the PSP is incredible news so let us hope they handle this properly and not turn it into a bullshit mockery that ports so often turn out to be. It would be nice if the PSP version offers a bit more flash for the visuals, but if not, use of the original graphics will do just nicely. This is one of the extremely rare cases where even I would say graphics don't mean a damn when you're talking about a game like Tactics.
Fuck yes, this is exactly it. I'm a little worried about the cutscenes though, because (1) It'll give them an excuse to change around some plot details, and (2) The style of the game itself might make things look a little too cartoony. FFT was brilliant in using in game sprites to act out gritty dialogue, and I really want to see that kind of atmosphere kept intact. But I guess I saw this coming, anyhow. Although i'm glad the translations going to be fixed. (I'll miss "l...i...t...t...l...e....m...o...n...e...y" and "Defeat Dycedarg's Elder Brother!" a lot though )

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 07:08 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 05:08 PM #60 of 180
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Oh, my. I was expecting just a regular rehash.

It's amazing that they actually made the style exactly as it was in the original.

At this rate, I will be re-buying a PSP.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 07:31 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 05:31 PM #61 of 180
Originally Posted by Jagged
That's pretty much BS. Not of the articles in Jump mention that, so I have no I dea where this came from.
The reporter that wrote that pretty much sucks, perhaps evidenced by the fact he's sourcing the notoriously bad translations of MagicBox. I called the no Ivalice thing on their forums, citing that Ivalice appeared nowhere in the scans and so they edited the report. Of course they won't give credit or mention that though. That's not how RPGamer rolls.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 16, 2006, 08:10 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 08:10 PM #62 of 180
I guess if they want to write something then retract it that's their decision, I was only calling what I saw at the time.

Even so, I doubt I'll be buying a PSP for any of this, as the only thing the PSP still continues to offer are ports of game titles. Soon as they release a unique Tactics title for the PSP I might be inclined.

I edited my original quote post of that article to indicate that Ivalice was retracted from it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 10:40 PM #63 of 180
Originally Posted by Pokey
I'm a little worried about the cutscenes though, because (1) It'll give them an excuse to change around some plot details,
That's the beauty; the plot was so confusing that you wouldn't even notice any changes, unless you're some weird obsessive fangirl.

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Old Dec 16, 2006, 11:04 PM Local time: Dec 16, 2006, 09:04 PM #64 of 180
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That's the beauty; the plot was so confusing that you wouldn't even notice any changes, unless you're some weird obsessive fangirl.
QFMFT.
Plus, as I'm sure someone has already said, here's hoping for an improved translation. But even without that, those added anime scenes will enhance the story a lot on their own.

And, just as a backup, even if it would change the story in some noticeable way, guess what? The old story still exists too, right there on the PlayStation. It's not going to overwrite your memory of original FFT playthroughs or plotlines. You can have both. Now, that's just *if* anything's even changed, though.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 02:12 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 02:12 AM #65 of 180
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 confirmed for DS.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 02:20 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 12:20 AM #66 of 180
Originally Posted by RPG Maker
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 confirmed for DS.
O RLY?

Source of this "Confirmation"?

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 02:31 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 05:01 PM #67 of 180
Originally Posted by Dark Nation
O RLY?

Source of this "Confirmation"?
I hear they announced "FFT A2 (btw, not Advance2) on DS" on the theatre in the Jump Festa 2007.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 02:32 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 02:32 AM #68 of 180
If that turns out to be true, I'll have to toss a hearty lol out to Sony because the PSP will effectively have become the port bitch system. I guess Playstation Portable sounds quite becoming at this point.

It's also another title in Nintendo's hands, which will add even more fuel to the "Square defecting to Nintendo" fire that's been raging lately.

Of course, this doesn't take into account that FFTA1 was fucking horrible either, and that the Tactics sub-franchise really deserves something better like a PS3 or Wii release.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 03:14 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 01:14 AM #69 of 180
Originally Posted by Kostaki
Tactics sub-franchise really deserves something better like a PS3 or Wii release.
As much as I'd like a Wii sequel, it will likely NEVER happen.

The only Final Fantasy to hit any Nintendo System has been Crystal Chronicles, which is like a spin-off series, and Tactics Advance, which is Tactics Ogre Advanced, but with Final Fantasy IP.

If they DID however make the sequel for the Wii... I don't know what to think.

The PS3, I'm afraid, would sacrifice Gameplay and/or the Game's soul/uniqueness for Sony regulations in their games (Compare to how Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) has an active policy against any 2D game, or EA in general).

On the flip-side, the Wii port would probably have subtle censorship, such as mature content references, which is typical of Nintendo (I have a feeling they released Conker's fur day just to say that policy was not actually true, have a steak to feed the sharks, as it were).

Now then: What would/does the sequel entail story-wise?

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 03:28 AM #70 of 180
Originally Posted by Dark Nation
As much as I'd like a Wii sequel, it will likely NEVER happen.

The only Final Fantasy to hit any Nintendo System has been Crystal Chronicles, which is like a spin-off series, and Tactics Advance, which is Tactics Ogre Advanced, but with Final Fantasy IP.

If they DID however make the sequel for the Wii... I don't know what to think.

The PS3, I'm afraid, would sacrifice Gameplay and/or the Game's soul/uniqueness for Sony regulations in their games (Compare to how Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) has an active policy against any 2D game, or EA in general).

On the flip-side, the Wii port would probably have subtle censorship, such as mature content references, which is typical of Nintendo (I have a feeling they released Conker's fur day just to say that policy was not actually true, have a steak to feed the sharks, as it were).

Now then: What would/does the sequel entail story-wise?
FFTA getting a Wii sequel? Now that's far fetched. The games will likely continue on their handhelds. Not to mention that the game was pretty average, and wouldn't exactly wok well without a complete revamp. Might as well make a new game for the Wii.

I agree with DN that if it did show up on it, there would be lots of "you can't do this" or "show that" for the title. PS3 would be out of the question, for the reason stated before (handheld only). If it did show up on that machine, it'd likely end up as the most gorgeous FFT-based game to date, but with the shitty gameplay+story of FFTA.

FFTA2 for the DS is completely reasonable and expected.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 04:57 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 04:57 AM #71 of 180
In that case, I'm all for Square getting into talks with Nintendo about a Wii release Final Fantasy Tactics. I doubt they'd even think of telling Square they can't do something, considering it would be another step up for Nintendo.

Besides, being able to point on the screen where you want your characters moving to, among other things, sounds likes fun. There's probably a host of possibilities that a strategy game could provide that Wiimote, that would add some much needed immersion.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 06:27 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 11:27 PM #72 of 180
Yeah when they said there was another FFT game, platform TBC, I was already pretty damn sure I knew the answer already. I guess I was right. So many great announcements for the DS have been made since last year that I've become desensitised to them now lol!

As for PSportable// that's a classic right up there with DS Phat. Credit

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 09:57 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 07:57 AM #73 of 180
Originally Posted by Kostaki
If that turns out to be true, I'll have to toss a hearty lol out to Sony because the PSP will effectively have become the port bitch system. I guess Playstation Portable sounds quite becoming at this point.
Heh ^^
Am I the only one totally okay with this, though? I think the port of FFT looks freaking amazing and I can't wait to play it. Plus I already know I'll enjoy it--I've wanted a handheld port of FFT for a long time. Add in those anime scenes, new jobs, and a *hopefully* better translation? Score. Most of the ports that have made it to PSP are games I'd like to play handheld, fortunately.

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Old Dec 17, 2006, 03:31 PM #74 of 180
In regards to the second page of this thread:

I couldn't find a particularly good image of it, but I still rather prefer the original logo.



The new one isn't bad, though.

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Old Dec 18, 2006, 12:36 AM Local time: Dec 17, 2006, 10:36 PM #75 of 180
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
FFTA getting a Wii sequel? Now that's far fetched.
LOL. No I meant Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1) getting a Wii Sequel. Since (Last I heard), there wasn't a console chosen for the FFTactics2.

FFT = PS1
FFTA2 = DS
FFT (Port) = PSP
FFT2 = ???

I think the best decision for all would be for it being on the PS2, but since both Sony AND Squeenix are Graphic Whores (For both bad and good), they'd want to push for a PS3 Sequel with real-time magic casting or something.

However, Nintendo has new management as of late, and maybe that will indicate allowing FFT2 on the Wii. Afterall they did have the Resident Evil titles (Notably RE4, game in my signature right now), and Red Steel as a launch title for the Wii, both of which are much more directly violent then any Final Fantasy title.

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