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I just wish other races in the world had words with that sort of meaning you could use to insult them. Far worse shit has happened to people around the world than African slavery, yet they never seem to be able to cash in because they don't have a word for themselves as powerful as "nigger." This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Last edited by Such a Lust for Revenge!; Apr 21, 2007 at 04:03 PM.
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Now, I get how racism works and that, in this country (being America) I (being white) am not allowed to call a black person "Nigger" because it's hugely offensive, due to the vast history of oppression. That's what I understand, and that's what I agree too. I also understand that black oppression didn't actually happen world wide, which is why I brought up the UK, which is why I asked the question are black people in foreign countries as offended by the word as black people in America are? Most amazing jew boots |
You don't have to explain yourself, this is Merv Burger we're talking about here. The sort of character that throws that random cuntpunch (thanks Elixir) to start a riot before running away, leaving the mess he left for someone else to handle. You should see this guys picture; a real master with racial issues.
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I hate this crap. It's just another way for people to get their panties in a bunch and flip out over nothing. I love the picture though. "O DESPAIR. I bought a nigger brown couch." Pain in her cross eyes and all. I am also going to ignore Sonic's little tirade, too. "Why don't people get racism?!" No one is dying over being called a nigger. What happened generations ago by completely different people in a completely different time should end there and then. Enough with the slavery card. It's over. It's BEEN over. The South lost. The end. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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Whew, Goddamn, my question isn't about racism in other countries, it's about the word Nigger (in other countries), which was kinda the damn topic (and Devo, I'm gonna assume you meant South Africa, and not the entire continent).
I guess nobody really knows, cause all this grief seems to be about shit i'm not even talking about. How ya doing, buddy? |
Why are you so hell bent on making use of the word nigger okay? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Racism is alive and well indeed, but the media only seems to pay attention when it involves the word "nigger" or blacks. Meanwhile, we have a Hot Pockets ad campaign with featuring an "old Asian man" caricature and nobody bats an eye. Casual, perhaps subconscious racism against other minority groups and even whites persists, but once there's anything that even remotely involves blacks, the media and Al Sharpton are all over it like lawyers chasing after an ambulance. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=nigger
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Midna, I don't think Sass wants to make the word acceptable. Just less of a shocker.
Devo's right, though I don't think the word has the same power anywhere else as in the states. Probably because of the freedom of expression. Though it really doesn't seem like the word was a big deal until after the Civil Rights movement. FELIPE NO |
Now, not having a degree in African-American studies, or the general nature of Racism at large, I'm going to have to defer to the end-all of knowledge: Wikipedia. I went ahead and typed the word "Nigger" in there and found out some interesting facts that negate your arguments and even answer the questions I was asking. As it turns out, back in the day, like way back in that late eighteenth century days when those colonies existed, the variations of "nigger" that were used weren't actually considered derogatory. "Nigger", and it's variations, were only used as an identifier, similar to the way we use "black" today. It wasn't until the 1960's, in the American North (as it turns out) that "nigger" became offensive, and it was during the ensuing race war that it gathered all the negativity it now holds today. Listen carefully now, Devo:
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True, they were colonized a while after America was, but the idea of colonization is still the same, be it 16th or 18th century. Plus, in my understanding, a lot of modern-day African life (i'm assuming you mean the absolute horror that it is) is mainly due to Africans. I'm not wrong in thinking Africa isn't a colony anymore, right? How ya doing, buddy?
Last edited by whinehurst; Apr 22, 2007 at 03:02 PM.
Reason: misread African as American
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All right, Devo, until you actually provide some evidence to support that claim, I'm going to have to go ahead and say you're wrong. Did you even read the post where i pointed out where you are wrong on that? Let me say it again, since you have some sort of reading disorder. "Nigger" didn't become offensive until the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's in the NORTHERN UNITED STATES. Until then it was used as an IDENTIFIER, like we used the word Black today. This whole fucking argument is over the WORD. Not oppression. There's plenty of oppressed people that have shit to do with the word "nigger".
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
perhaps you forgotten the freedom fries BS from a few years ago? I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I was speaking idiomatically.
Last edited by whinehurst; Apr 22, 2007 at 04:17 PM.
Reason: fingers of fury make mistakes
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Did you even read your own post. You said America used to be a colony and Africa used to be a colony (lol), and America doesn't hold a grudge with England anymore so why are blacks so uppity?
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oh my god. this has gotten way out of control, and i'm washing my hands of it. I tried my best to make a sound argument, but evidently, something went horribly wrong. Have fun rambling incoherently about whatever it is you're trying to talk about.
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Look at the American novel "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" by Mark Twain, released in 1884, and is regarded as one of the most eloquent attacks on racism ever written. The book also happens to contain the word "nigger" 212 times. The word is casually used as a racial identifier, like the words "colored" or "black" and as a satire on the boorish nature of the white characters in the novel. At any rate, the word certainly was not as outright offensive then as it is today. Most amazing jew boots |
Disregard this post. Point is, it's not offensive, and never should be.
Jam it back in, in the dark.
Last edited by *AkirA*; Apr 22, 2007 at 09:23 PM.
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LOL! This is why I never take internet forums seriously! What sort of history has Yank to it? How many people call you Yank in order to demean you? Again, look at the HISTORY. I know you want to wipe it under the carpet, hey maybe people in Germany are upset because they (sometimes) get labeled as nazis, when that whole Hitler misunderstanding happened before their time. And they get blamed for both world wars, when really you'll see it was all economical. That plus politics, you know it's always politics. So I can sort of see where you are comming from. I mean, if everyone wants to be equal, why ever have a Black parade, or Black rights, because if a white person did them, that'd be racist. Why can't decent white people have a White Power parade, being proud of and trying to promote more white-only groups? That group the JJJ, is it? They've got the right idea. I understand entirely. That whole segregation incedent happened hundreds of years ago. Damn jigs. Why can't they just let go of the past? Hey they use it themselves, so they can't complain if a white guy calls them a nigger maybe at work or in the street. And besides, dont you know at least one black who's ok with you calling him a nigger and all? So if that one guy can see, why can't they all see? PLUS!!! If you go over many posts here, including my own, you'll see that I describe many situations as 'gay', so just who am I to try to preach? How dare I try stick up for 'those damn dirty choco-faces' when I don't lend a hand to the homosexual community? AND!! You don't see chinese people getting worked up every time the word 'chink' is used, do ya? Seriously man, I swear some people are so duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |