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I can't imagine it'll be free, but they seem to usually offer Plus discounts on new games a lot of the time it seems like? And yeah, that might be my first new PSN over XBLA purchase as well, not sure yet.
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Sometimes they do. Bloodrayne Betrayal and Double Dragon Neon were free to PS+ members at launch and for some time after. I kinda regret not getting the Street Fighter IV Arcade edition while it was free, but I did get NBA Jam!
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
D&D wasn't even mentioned in the releases for this upcoming week on the PS Blog, which is concerning.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Release date at the end of the trailer. I think XBL gets it the next day though. Unless something has changed since last week that I haven't read. I'm still trying to figure on what game I should pre-order alongside the PS4. I'm thinking maybe Watch Dogs. I know I'll want to try and get The Order 1886 when that drops. Kingdom Hearts 3 next year is a no-brainer too. edits: It's live and bought! (D&D) What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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Well things just got interesting
from Giantbomb
FELIPE NO |
It's been confirmed by MS: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
I'm just gonna copy my FB post about it:
Also you have Kinect always on as well as it being $100 more expensive on top of that. So while I am actually genuinely impressed (and amused) that they backpeddled on this, they've already kinda shot themselves in the foot for me personally; this gen I was 360 first and PS3 only for exclusives, gonna be the other way around nextgen. But this announcement will at least be getting me to get an Xbone at some point, but it'll be a secondary purchase and not a primary one. They'll also be digging themselves out of a PR hole for years; you only get one first impression, and casuals/mainstream may not even realize that they've changed their policy on this for a long time. There are still people who think the Wii U is an add-on for the Wii. Is this the biggest gaming megaton that's ever happened? The only thing I can think of that's maybe comparable is Sega backing out of hardware. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
That has been my number one question all along. How exactly the cloud thingie works, is it a online must thing or does Forza for instance work without it?
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Even if they do pull a massive U-turn, I fear the damage is already done at this point. Microsoft has suffered a PR disaster in the last couple of weeks and even if the One launches with none of the second hand games bullshit or whatever, in the back of people's minds is that Microsoft are the guys that wanted DRM and to stop us selling our games or lending them to people and Sony are the guys who didn't, yay Sony.
It's like the PSOne was an industry changing event and made gaming cool and socially acceptable and then everyone was really excited about the PS2 and it had GTA3 and was awesome. Then out of nowhere MS go and launch a console and everyone was a big suspicious and it was a slow starter but the Halo was awesome and Live made online console gaming easy and it caught on in a big way. Next gen Sony tried really hard but failed to capture what was great about Live but kinda missed the point and the PS3 was pretty expensive for nothing that special whereas the 360 improved on the original and went from strength to strength until MS saw some advertising dollar signs and launched a horrid new menu interface that was all about paying for tv shows and social networking and not really games. Now MS announce the follow up and it's sold as a tv box that sometimes plays games only MS want every single quid they can get out of you and Sony leap in and suddenly re-capture some of the excitement about PS2 and manage to make MS look really cynical and corporate in the process. Xbox One has been weirdly marketed so far. They're all about watching tv and going on facebook but literally everyone has digital tv and a laptop that do those things better already. How they thought they could try and control the entire second hand games market and get away with it is anyone's guess. I imagine someone's getting sacked soon though. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Well, now I'm conflicted. Do I go with the Xbox, with its vastly superior controller and Forza, all the while wondering in the back of my mind when the other shoe will drop, or with the PSquad, because they've been less douchy about things, and hope that they get the online stuff right this time?
Actually, I think I'll just play it safe and let all of you nerds buy both, wait for your reviews, and then make my decision next Spring. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. I didn't say I wouldn't go fishin' with the man.
All I'm sayin' is, if he comes near me, I'll put him in the wall. |
Well I'll be damned, Microsoft actually does have a brain. Still saving $100 and keeping my PS4 preorder.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
That XBone will most likely be a secondary purchase for me, but I do hate adding the camera to the package. I won't use it most likely.
Sticking with PS4. I was speaking idiomatically. |
The region dropping has GOT to be because the Navy Times called them out on it. I see no other fucking reason for it.
It's so good it actually brings the start of a sparkle to my otherwise emotionless, dead eyes. Mmm. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Certainly, this does eliminate some of the biggest issues I had with the device. It leaves me torn a little bit, actually. I honestly don't think the spec differences Daravon mentioned are gonna mean a damn thing in the end-- publishers on the whole are going to develop multiplatform, so games are going to be remarkably similar. The controller looks great, which is a big deal to me.
I do like a lot of the non-gaming features of the Xbone, but honestly, that Kinect is killing me. I have no space for Kinect gaming in the bedroom, and speaking/gesturing commands is not going to warrant a hundred-dollar premium over the PS4. I think the cost and that, ultimately, I am a JRPG faggot are still gonna steer me toward a PS4 over a Bone for now. Maybe I can be convinced before launch with something impressive, but for now... Eh. FELIPE NO |
Hey Zip tell me more about how the XBone DRM policy was a good business decision lolololol
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I've actually seen quite a few people who are disappointed with this announcement. Most of them seemed to be under the impression that you could designate a bunch of your friends as "family" and only have to buy one copy of a game between you (which Microsoft would never have stood for), and others wanted to see the online shop and remote game access happen.
Really, what it comes down to is we don't trust Microsoft enough to hand them that much control over our games. There were innovative ideas there, sure, but that was one deep end the gaming community just wasn't ready to jump into. Especially when we strongly suspected that the deep end was full of sharks. Steam has earned our trust. Microsoft will have to do the same if they want to try to have similar policies. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
That's part of it. Do you know why I don't give a shit about Steam's DRM? Because there are other options available to me as a consumer on a PC, if I want, and because a lot of the games cost three dollars,
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This is what I've been saying for ages. On a PC the DRM is not that big of a deal as you have options to bypass it if you ever have problems with, say, a legit bought copy refusing to start or something. You can try a game (illegally) before deciding for yourself whether you think the developer deserves your money for it or not.
On a closed system like consoles, there is none of this, and the digital only future looks less and less appealing every day. Most amazing jew boots |
I wonder if Microsoft could have struck a better balance between what they were going to do and what they're doing now? To be honest, I was only genuinely offended by forced check-ins. I try not to buy used games for the usual reasons you hear (the developers of good games see none of the profit; Gamestop is a shitty, parasitic company), so I'm not sure if I would have cared much about the licenses that had to be transferred when selling a game. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
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I'm not sure how that makes things any better. He just told us what reasonable people already knew-- Microsoft wasn't stomping on our balls for the sake of stomping on them; they were stomping on our balls because they don't trust us to not share our one purchased game with 20 friends.
Doesn't change the fact that they were stomping on our balls. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
FELIPE NO |
Also it turns out that from multiple reliable sources (MS will never verify either way, because they have no reason to) that the 10 person family game sharing thing was only for 60 minute demos and not the full game. It's been hilarious how for a day or so there was this subset of the internet and press (Gizmondo I think in particular) that was blaming everyone saying that we destroyed the best feature of the system and were holding back innovation...and it turns out all that we were holding back was demos. This continues to be good times.
This still earns MS back a lot of credibility to the general masses, but those people also probably don't care too much about the difference between the Xbone and PS4, and they're going to see the PS4 is $100 cheaper. Everything's going to sell out initially, but unless Sony either super fucks up or MS does a $100 price drop before launch, MS is going to get destroyed after the holidays. Casuals care about CoD, but not enough to spend $100 more to get a X1 to get DLC a month early. Most amazing jew boots |
EDIT: Just did a bit of digging. Aaron Greenberg and Marc Whitten (two high-level Xbox executives at Microsoft) have said on Twitter that the Pastebin writer is full of shit. Could be lying. I get the feeling they probably aren't though. Jam it back in, in the dark.
Last edited by Final Fantasy Phoneteen; Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM.
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Those were business decision, I never said it's a good marketing decision. I even told you in the same discussion that branding wise it's probably bad. Business and marketing decisions are two different things. Now take your transformers chain and stop trolling. no homo |
The Pastebin was confirmed correct by several reliable GAF sources that have been 100 percent correct in the past; including one who's nailed every single reveal this year weeks early as a matter of course. Pastebins themselves are of course not a reliable source of info, but if you're taking the company line on it you're being just as ridiculous. There's also this: Which is a good reading between the lines that shows this was probably already announced, no one noticed it though: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...6&postcount=48 Does anyone REALLY THINK they would essentially allow 6 and 7 dollar XBOne games out the door for life? After all these other controls? Are you stupid?
Citing Pachter, someone notorious for being as wrong as he is right, is probably not the best move either. The man's a talking head personality and plays up opinions for clicks. It's amazing how people don't realize this in twenty fucking thirteen. So eat a dick. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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