[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread

Here's the complete list of facts, since everyone likes to post them.

All of the WWE created belts are currently on RAW, while all of the old style WCW titles (with new title histories) are on Smackdown.

RAW has the WWE Intercontinental, WWE Tag Team, and WWE Heayweight Title while Smackdown has the WCW Cruiserweight, WCW US, WCW World Tag Team, and WCW World Heavyweight Titles. This was of course done on purpose, in order to isolate the assimilated WCW titles on the lesser brand.

All of the current WCW-assimiliated titles on Smackdown no longer follow the WCW heritage they had, as they now all have histories that started with the titles coming into WWE. Yes, while Ric Flair can claim all day long that he was a 16 time champion to acknowledge that there was a history back then (like Booker did in the past with his five time bit) but the official title histories have long since been modified.

All of the WCW-assimilated belts have undergone change with WWE logos and in extreme cases, the center plate of the World Heavyweight Title was curved giving it a dramatic change. My myspace profile has a picture of me with the original big gold belt rather than the curved one, and you can tell quite easily that it isn't curved.

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Yeah, I noticed that. BTW, loved the Top Rope Canadian Destroyer ani by Petey on your Myspace.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I got tired of the same old stale contact tables so I made that one for myself using that animation and Animation Shop. I'll probably find some new animations eventually and switch them in and out to keep it fresh.

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One thing I don't understand though... WTF is up with Saturday Night's Main Event? When exactly is it going to show, before every Interbrand PPV, or what?

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They do it randomly whenever they can get some kind of advertising thing going with NBC and having big name stars lured in to appear on the show. The last one was a pretty big failure, even with Hogan being on the show.

The odds of them doing another one are pretty slim, at best.

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Originally Posted by Kostaki

They do it randomly whenever they can get some kind of advertising thing going with NBC and having big name stars lured in to appear on the show. The last one was a pretty big failure, even with Hogan being on the show.

The odds of them doing another one are pretty slim, at best.

And NBC usually is a jerk at ratings...

Well, anyways, I hate some of the storylines that are being done right now... I saw a Survivor Series poster that had, Booker T, Regal, Finlay, Taker, and Batista with an Elimination Chamber Background...
I started thinking of Possible Entrants
1. Chris Benoit
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Matt Hardy(Yes, I am wishing)

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Kos:

I misread your last post as "I never knew it was the WCW title". My bad on that one.

Err, I didn't say Goldberg's winning streak got ended by Luger. They had an angle where he had to beat his old winning streak (if he did so, he got a title shot, if he did not, he had to leave WCW). He lost in a tag match I believe against Luger and Bagwell. Of course, you already mentioned his second streak.

I should have said Goldberg's "WCW" career. You do bring up a valid point that he was cheered heavily in his initial WWE entrance. I just felt his legacy was somewhat tarnished with the whole Luger scenario. I would have been OK if they pinned Sarge, but they beat Goldberg himself.

THe point I am going with concerning Arquette is this. The title represented the best wrestler who could bring in crowds on a nightly basis (whether it be due to wrestling ability, or acting skills). This person most likely had proven this inthe past, or people had the feeling that the person might be able to do this in the future. Arquette was not this.

The title itself also had a bit of a history of having solid champions behind it (well, save for the last couple of years), from Flair, to Hogan, to Race and so forth. It was (at the time) held in high regard and was seen as the ultimate triumpth for many a wrestler for a lifetime of sacrfice and hard work. Arquette winning it basically sent the message, "It doesn't matter how hard some of you work...or how long you have been doing this" to many.

Seriously, I can understand the shock-value, but why not put it on a WRESTLER such as Sean O'Haire (who stock was rising quickly, and could have kept the crowd entertain while he developed his in ring skills and mic skills)?

The initial shock may have gotten WCW some attention, but after that, two weeks later, most of the same people were still watching WCW...minus those who were so outraged that they decided to watch just watch WWF, the independant, or stop wrestling entirely.

By the way, I think either it was Flair's book, or 'The Death of WCW' that stated that Arquette supposedly said he did NOT want to win the title. Not that it matters much, because he did it anyway. HOwever, if he did say that, even he, himself, saw the overall result of this happening.

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More or less the former WCW wrestlers appeared to not have been pushed enough. But that could be reluctiveness on thier end. As for the curving, that thing in middle of the center piece in your pic? Yea I notice that's gone. At one point that belt used to be the WCW's version of the IC title(International Championchip; Sup Rick Rude), although I can't remember what design the world title had. @_@ the tag titles used to look like the old old WWE title with the big freaking Eagle wings XD.

Originally Posted by Tommyspud

Or it could screw the whole thing up...
There's always that chance.

I do not know how the brands already being split can get anymore worse.

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Arquette was a joke title holder, I think WCW was trying to shift the balance in power with that... But, then the storyline just dropped a load on WCW....

And when I mean being worse, I mean you have WWE and ECW then... That's a lot worse then Raw, SD, and ECW... When you put almost all of the good wrestlers on one show, that basically kills the other one. At least this way they are all of the same quality.

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Arquette winning the title had little to do with people not watching WCW anymore, because it was the overall atmosphere of when Russo took over. No one liked the whole "New Blood" concept, or Russo awarding HIMSELF the title on several occasions. While I don't agree with the overall way the entire angle with Arquette was booked, the only people bashing the title change are the people who can't seem to grasp that in a real promotion anything can happen at any time. The same people who marked out hard for Mysterio going over Nash in WCW (and then later on at Wrestlemania) are the ones that have realized it. The nWo became big because of the "anything can happen" concept. Maybe he didn't want the title, maybe he did. The fact of the matter is, the angle was entertaining and did serve it's purpose.

The title's legacy was far from tarnished though. I can bring up Nash laying down for Hogan. The title being stripped from Goldberg one night after he defeated Sting for it during a challenge. I can cite Russo throwing Hogan out of a title match and then bringing Booker in (his first real push mind you) and having him go over Jarrett. Again, I can bring up Russo giving himself the title on a few occasions. There's a number of things I can bring up that might tarnish the belt, but not giving it to Arquette.

No one gives a damn when a title is only decided on a PPV once every month. That's half the reason why the WWE is stale right now. They have tag and six man tag matches instead of main events anymore. Feuds should not have end when a title changes hands, either. Some battles for the heavyweight titles are epic feuds and matches, while others are simply quick insertions for whatever reason (Big Show to ECW, Angle winning the Battle Royal when Batista was injured) or whatever else have you.

It doesn't kill prestige. That's why professional wrestling is what it is. Arquette wasn't given the title, he did WORK a match and pinned someone be it for whatever reason. Meanwhile back up North, Bischoff handed Triple H a bent and tainted World Heavyweight Championship.

You were talking about prestige?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I wasn't talking about prestige.. I was just stating that having a WWE(SD+RAW) and ECW brand wouldn't work out as good as some people think... Why would people want to watch ECW, when they know WWE is the only important brand, that has it's own PPV's.... When ECW only has One Night Stand... See what I mean?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Heh, most of that was directed at mortis. By the time I hit Quick Reply, there were already two more replies. :P

The WWE clearly does not know how to deal with distinct styles of wrestling. WWECW right now is just "brand 3" rather than an entire new style of promotion.

There isn't much of anything except them viewing someone else as a threat that will get them to do something positive for the industry. Due to Vince McMahon being an arrogant little cockstain, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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Even though TNA can technically be considered a threat, right? I mean, sure it might not make ANYWHERE as much money as WWE, but you gotta admit, it's doing good for a new company... Even if some storylines are duds.

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There is one thing I'd to know.. Who was "the powers that be" ? It was right when he/they(??) came in as the new uh GM/commissioner, basically whatever Bishoff was, that I couldn't watch Nitro anymore. Tommy, I don't think anyone cares about the ECW brand.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

DoA= Director of Authority?
Anyways, will RAW EVER GET A NEW GM? We've been waiting how long???
Will Bischoff be rehired?

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Originally Posted by Tommyspud

Even though TNA can technically be considered a threat, right? I mean, sure it might not make ANYWHERE as much money as WWE, but you gotta admit, it's doing good for a new company... Even if some storylines are duds.

Vince does not consider TNA a threat. Jim Ross has even publically stated that the "WWE is and always will be the leader of the sports entertainment genre" and has said that "all the good TNA workers will end up here anyway" basically calling TNA nothing more than a random developmental territory for the real thing.

If you likely asked Vince what he thought of TNA, he'd look for the nearest insect and proceed to step all over it while wildly exclaiming "THAT'S TNA DAMNIT, THAT'S TNA!"

Originally Posted by Winter Storm

There is one thing I'd to know.. Who was "the powers that be" ? It was right when he/they(??) came in as the new uh GM/commissioner, basically whatever Bishoff was, that I couldn't watch Nitro anymore. Tommy, I don't think anyone cares about the ECW brand.

The "Powers That Be" was the beginning of the end when Russo originally first came into WCW and started exerting his authority. They consisted of Vince Russo and Ed Ferrera as on-air characters, both ex-WWF writers at the time that had been hired to try and get some creative direction back into WCW. Note that prior to this, neither guy had never been on-air characters. They would eventually find the Harris Brothers and turn them into their "Enforcers" that would strike down anyone that defied the powers. Ridiculous, I know. Only the New Blood stable/angle topped that shit, followed by the Millionaire's Club at a distant third.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah, you're right, basically no one cares about the ECW Brand...
DAMNIT WWE, make me surprised and put Brock Lesnar in ECW...

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No one cares about the ECW brand because the WWE themselves do not care about it. That's why the Big Show as the ECW champion is doing nothing more than being a McMahon lackey against DX. They don't have the roster for a third brand without dragging a bunch of WWE contracted guys in, and apparently they're allergic to logic so they aren't bringing in new talent and giving them an ECW opportunity.

That's just the way it is.

I was speaking idiomatically.

CM Punk should be on RAW or SD, he's pretty talented, and shouldn't be on that crappy show... Another person being undersold..... Just like Matt Hardy...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

No, CM Punk should be ECW Champion and people like Bob Holly should GTFO of ECW as soon as possible. They have their OVW developmental territory for a reason, they could be testing them for TV purposes on ECW and we could get to see some interesting shit.

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So, you mean, basically a training show? Or more like a test show, so you can figure out how good each wrestler is in specific skills?

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I'll explain it in more detail.

Basically OVW is their Ohio Valley Wrestling developmental territory (which the WWE owns) where they train new guys and put people who need more work with their wrestling skills while they improve. This territory is full of talent at any one given time, as a LOT of current WWE stars came from there at one point or another. OVW does have TV tapings, but they aren't hardly as recognized as the ECW TV tapings are.

So what I'm basically saying is that the WWE should take new talent from OVW that they believe are ready to be tested for the real prime time TV taping on ECW, and let them show their stuff there. This would allow them to have a chance to perform at their VERY BEST LEVEL (going to the extreme in other words) so that they can impress the top brass (lol vince) and get moved up to either RAW or Smackdown from there to be on air characters.

That's the way I would think the new ECW should be treated, with a lot of the old ECW alumni helping them forward and training with them.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Thanks for putting it into more detail. That's a great idea, except having Vince call them up... I would put it into much more reliable hands... Maybe, hell I don't know.... The GM?

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Vince has the final say on most everything that occurs with major decisions like that, which is why I continually bring up his name. I just don't see him giving anyone else that authority.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Dusty Rhodes showed up a long time ago and people thought he was going to be the GM. Vince - jokefully I might add, hinted to him being the next GM. Vince is probably looking for someone who is a straight arrow like Long is.

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