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Old Jul 30, 2006, 07:35 PM Local time: Jul 30, 2006, 04:35 PM #26 of 52
Originally Posted by Technophile
If it's being canceled mainly for loss of money spent on boothes, couldn't they get a much larger floor space, open it to the general masses, and charge admission?
Thats what I like to know, wouldn't that be a simple solution? TGS has done it all this time.

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Old Jul 30, 2006, 10:46 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 01:46 PM #27 of 52
If it's money they're worried about, they should just hold in an old gutted ice cream van. Four 34cm TVs set up, the latest video game machines hooked up to them via RF, maybe a My First Rappin' Fun Time microphone taped to the mono speaker to pick up the rich audio and boom it out of a nearby portable radio covered in paint and dust.

Everyone gets five minutes, then the janitor whacks you in the knees with his mop until you move on and let the next person have a go. Perhaps the janitors wife could stand around and pose a bit, just hope her teeth don't fall out as the camera goes off! E3 swag? They could have some some bins full of one hundred percent real garbage!

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Old Jul 30, 2006, 11:40 PM Local time: Jul 30, 2006, 08:40 PM #28 of 52
As it has been said before around the internets...I'm sure EA had something to do with it.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:51 AM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 05:51 AM #29 of 52
Dont worry guys, they will made it again, but with another name and much less money, thats for sure.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:01 AM Local time: Aug 1, 2006, 12:01 AM #30 of 52
Well, if I remember E3 this year, they didn't have booth babes. That was pretty pointless and I don't think that changed anything, but it's the first sign of budget cuts.

I'm not sure how E3 2k7 would work. By that time, the PS3 and Wii will be released, so the surge of information would be huge. They're probably smart to pull out beforehand. I'm not really phased since we're on the internet. There's places like gametrailers and gamespot for information, and anyone with half a brain can visit them.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 08:14 AM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 03:14 PM #31 of 52
E3 has just become too damn big. It's no more an exclusive glimpse of the gaming underground and what is to come, than it has become a my dick is bigger showoff comedyshow.

Oh, and the booth babes was banned because the focus was diverted from what it's actually all about.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 08:19 AM #32 of 52
Eh, I always found E3 to be a fun time to be on the internets, but I won't be entirely too distraught to see it go. It's not like I go there. I get all the info I need from IGN during the show anyway. And I don't know why the journalists in the industry are bitching about it being too much work for them, their fucking job is to play video games and write about them. They need to get over it and quit bitching.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 08:57 AM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 09:57 AM #33 of 52
I'll be pretty disppointed if E3 does go. Though I never went there, getting all that info in a short period is alot of fun. It's definitely one of my favorite times of the year.

While having each company hold its own event is great for the company, it won't get nearly as much interest as E3 would. Microsoft and EA spend alot on their yearly events, but no one cares.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 10:52 AM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 05:52 PM #34 of 52
Crap if it closes. I wanted to try it out, but haven't got the opportunity yet. Budget cuts wouldn't be bad though. Booth babes was distracting, and all the silly teenagers who should be there do to their jobs in Game's R Us and various game stores really didn't help. What about returning the expo to the roots? ONLY journalists and developers?

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 11:06 AM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 06:06 PM #35 of 52
Originally Posted by sprouticus
And I don't know why the journalists in the industry are bitching about it being too much work for them, their fucking job is to play video games and write about them.
So… what's your point? That anyone who plays video-games could be a good game journalist, and their job is extremely easy? That's about as true as game tester being some sort of a dream job.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 01:06 PM #36 of 52
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Entertainment Software Association Announces Evolution of E3Expo for 2007
Monday July 31, 1:46 pm ET

WASHINGTON, D.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 31, 2006--To better address the needs of today's global computer and video game industry, the 2007 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3Expo) is evolving into a more intimate event focused on targeted, personalized meetings and activities, the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) announced today.

"The world of interactive entertainment has changed since E3Expo was created 12 years ago. At that time we were focused on establishing the industry and securing orders for the holiday season," said Douglas Lowenstein, President of the ESA, the trade association representing U.S. computer and video game publishers and the owner of E3Expo. "Over the years, it has become clear that we need a more intimate program, including higher quality, more personal dialogue with the worldwide media, developers, retailers and other key industry audiences."

The new E3Expo will take shape over the next several months. As currently envisioned, it will still take place in Los Angeles, described by ESA as a "great and supportive partner helping to build E3." It will focus on press events and small meetings with media, retail, development, and other key sectors. While there will be opportunities for game demonstrations, E3Expo 2007 will not feature the large trade show environment of previous years.

"E3Expo remains an important event for the industry and we want to keep that sense of excitement and interest, ensuring that the human and financial resources crucial to its success can be deployed productively to create an exciting new format to meet the needs of the industry. The new event ensures that there will be an effective and more efficient way for companies to get information to media, consumers, and others," said Lowenstein.

Additionally, the evolution of the video game industry into a vibrant and expanding global market has led to the creation of major events in different regions, such as the Games Convention in Leipzig, the Tokyo Game Show, and company-specific events held by Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, and others around the world. As a result, Lowenstein said, "It is no longer necessary or efficient to have a single industry 'mega-show.' By refocusing on a highly-targeted event, we think we can do a better job serving our members and the industry as a whole, and our members are energized about creating this new E3."

Additional details about the new E3Expo event will be forthcoming in the next few months.

The ESA is the U.S. association dedicated to serving the business and public affairs needs of the companies publishing interactive games for video game consoles, handheld devices, personal computers, and the Internet. ESA members collectively account for more than 90 percent of the $7 billion in entertainment software sales in the U.S. in 2005, and billions more in export sales of entertainment software. For more information about the ESA, please visit www.theESA.com.


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Old Jul 31, 2006, 02:15 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 11:15 AM #37 of 52
So essentially, it'll be becoming slightly more similar to GDC but for the media?

Sounds like we'll still get all the cool info we usually get, but no booth babes, convention hall, or wacky publicity stunts (see: NCSoft).

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 02:46 PM #38 of 52
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
Sounds like we'll still get all the cool info we usually get, but no booth babes, convention hall, or wacky publicity stunts (see: NCSoft).
The information is all I want out of it, especially since I expect Nintendo and Sony to have a fair amount of information to provide next year, mainly in regards to their new consoles' upcoming games. So, in short, this sounds like a welcome change to me.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:43 PM #39 of 52
Originally Posted by Aardork
So… what's your point? That anyone who plays video-games could be a good game journalist, and their job is extremely easy?
Are you being serious? My point is, they don't exactly have it as tough as they're making it out to be. They have a few really rough weeks out of the whole year, and during that week, they get to play all the new games and then write about them. That's a pretty gnarly job if you ask me.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 04:58 PM #40 of 52
Video game journalists can moan and complain as much as they want, but they have it extremely easy compared to regular newspaper journalists.

As for E3, it is unfortunate. However, if they do plan on just using the event to release information without all of the flair, then I'm fine with it.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 05:05 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 03:05 PM #41 of 52
At least they're not in Iraq covering the event. I knew an editor at Gamespot, besides being sleep deprived for a week and not being able to go to parties, overall, it's a really nice job if you're into that kind of stuff. It's not glamourous, but yeah, they really can't complain.

I'm kind of glad they're downsizing. I heard that some of the major players at E3 are backing out next year since they aren't making money. Well, if they didn't take up frickin' half the floor space.... at least now an "appointment" would actually be a sit down appointment vs here's the game, that guy over there will show you how to play it.

GDC might be the place to be, which I don't mind since it's closer I'm actually looking forward to E3 if it's going to be scaled back, maybe then I'll get a chance to actually check out stuff from smaller developers instead of having to go around the crowds hovering around Sony.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 05:37 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 05:37 PM #42 of 52
Well, all I can say is that it's the end of a kind of half dream for me - I'd always wanted to go there, but maybe it's is just gotten too big for it's britches. In any case, if it gives game companies more time to work properly and not have to worry so much aobut getting content ready for the show, it might be a good thing. But at the same time, having shows where you could show content to vast audiences like that really lends the industry a sense of legitimacy that might otherswise be lacking.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:17 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2006, 01:17 AM #43 of 52
It seems they changed the name to E3Expo now. I guess their redundancy check is switched off.

Joystiq link.

Electronic Entertainment Expo... Expo. Yeah.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:48 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 05:48 PM #44 of 52
The real question is if this is a sign of portent about the industry as a whole (which could do with some significant downsizing, I admit), or if this is just because the major supporters ended up spending millions for what amounted to relatively weak advertising and PR. (Especially in the case of Sony this year).

Oh well. I'm sure fan-shows like PAX and the gaming section of stuff like comicon will grow to at least somewhat fill up this void.

Edit:

It is interesting to note though that there are theories flying about that the main groups who pushed the ESA into downsizing the show are also the ones who got the worst PR this year. People are saying that with a smaller show, you can control who has access to what content and only allow a site to have an exclusive in exchange for a positive reaction to it.

I never thought of it that way, and I'd prefer not to, but it's also something that could theoretically take place. I guess we'll have to wait and see if such fears are warranted.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 10:10 PM #45 of 52
Well it seems that the board of E3 has come to a final conclusion on the issue. It seems that while there will NOT be an E3 anymore, it will still live on, just in a different form that's all. Instead of a huge floor where no one EVER got to see everything due to the masses of sweaty obsticales blocking your every move, E3 will now take place simply on the internet for EVERYONE to enjoy.

While this will suck for the few who actually were able to go to E3 every year, this will benefeit the general public. And personally this is how I've experianced E3 every year anyway. This just means that I will no longer have to pay for a membership to IGN in order to get decent resolution coverage of the show.

For more info go here -> http://www.theesa.com/archives/2006/...mmediate_r.php
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 10:28 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2006, 01:28 PM #46 of 52
Good riddance to a scam with all the fibre and substance of a Big Mac. I guess we'll have to wait a coupla weeks longer for news of those killer apps worth 7/10 that end up launching eighteen months late anyhow.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 11:19 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2006, 10:19 PM #47 of 52


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Old Jul 31, 2006, 11:32 PM #48 of 52
Oh well. I wish I could've at least gone to one E3 but now my dream will not be realized.

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Old Aug 1, 2006, 12:18 AM Local time: Aug 1, 2006, 03:18 PM #49 of 52
Does that mean we don't have to put up with the "who won E3 this year?" crap anymore? Good!

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Old Aug 1, 2006, 12:43 AM Local time: Aug 1, 2006, 03:43 PM #50 of 52
Hideo Kojima won't be happy, he'll be stuck with the Tokyo Game Show to show off his next three hour movie of MGS4's new features! TGS is nothing compared to E3!

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