ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY COMES TO DVD!!!

Originally Posted by sprouticus

This dvd release is happening to both shut up the rabid zealot fans, and put millions in Lucas's pocket. It's win-win for everyone.

I don't see how putting out substandard product is going to shut anyone up. If anything, youre going to hear a louder outcry than when the 2004 discs came out.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Personally, I think VHS quality is part of the 'persona' of the first series. Otherwise you would clearly see all the duct-tapes and strings in the background for the FX.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I don't see how putting out substandard product is going to shut anyone up. If anything, youre going to hear a louder outcry than when the 2004 discs came out.

These people don't care about quality, they just want the unaltered versions of their precious trilogy for some reason. They feel like Lucas owes it to them for some reason. I'm sure there will be outcry over the crap quality, but there will be far less overall outcry about the fact that "they haven't released the originals lol" because it's no longer a problem.

Personally, I think the quality of the special editions is great. It's wonderful to look at and listen to. I think some of the changes Lucas made really do suck, while others are great (I think adding Haydensen in ROTJ was good because of the reason Lucas gave. Go ahead and challenge me), but in the grand scheme of things, THEY'RE HIS FUCKING FILMS AND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH THEM.

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Originally Posted by sprouticus

They feel like Lucas owes it to them for some reason.

Maybe because, say, we are the one that put Lucas where he is today. We are the ones who've made him rich as jesus. And is movies is a part of the childhood of millions of people who were pissed off at Lucas for raping their memories.

So yeah, that's the least he could do.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

These people don't care about quality, they just want the unaltered versions of their precious trilogy for some reason.

Actually, I can name about 72,000 people who are pretty livid at the moment, thank you.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

They feel like Lucas owes it to them for some reason. I'm sure there will be outcry over the crap quality, but there will be far less overall outcry about the fact that "they haven't released the originals lol" because it's no longer a problem.

You underestimate the shittiness of people on the internet.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

I think adding Haydensen in ROTJ was good because of the reason Lucas gave. Go ahead and challenge me

Christianson was a pointless addition. Anakin died an old man who made peace with the Force, as did Yoda and Obi-Wan. Adding Anakin as a younger man remains completely nonsensicle.

You really don't want to get into this arguement with me.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

THEY'RE HIS FUCKING FILMS AND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH THEM.

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." -- George Lucas, speaking out against the colorization of black and white films

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Originally Posted by LeHah

"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." -- George Lucas, speaking out against the colorization of black and white films

Aw man, I forgot about that. You just gave me a boner!

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Christianson was a pointless addition. Anakin died an old man who made peace with the Force, as did Yoda and Obi-Wan. Adding Anakin as a younger man remains completely nonsensicle.

You really don't want to get into this arguement with me.

You're right, I probably don't, but the reason Lucas gave was "the ghosts represent the Jedis when they were at their most pure" or something. Therefore, adding young Anakin at that point makes sense (for me anyway). I see both sides of it.

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"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." -- George Lucas, speaking out against the colorization of black and white films

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Originally Posted by sprouticus

You're right, I probably don't, but the reason Lucas gave was "the ghosts represent the Jedis when they were at their most pure"

An utterly baffeling statement.

You mean to tell me that Obi-Wan was at his most pure in his old age after failing in training Anakin, which lead to the demise of the entire Jedi Order as well as countless lives during the Clone Wars, let alone the reign of the Empire?

Lucas is a limber-dicked moron.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Good point, but, Obi-Wan atleast SEEMS to have put that behind him and learned to live with it. I don't know if that's in writing somewhere, but he seemed pretty okay with his life at this point.

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EPECIALLY since he just trained Luke, the new hope for the Jedi!

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Originally Posted by VeryLaZ

Then dont buy it.

Put yourself in his shoes, buy releasing this, he pleases many fans, and makes alot of money in the process.

Which he could have done in the first place when he released them on DVD. You think it took them all this time to "find" source material they could use for a DVD release? They were working with it the whole time when they made all the changes to the movie in the first place.

I mean, for god's sake, he's releasing a 2 disc edition with both versions of the film. It's obvious it could have been done from the beginning and still manage to make plenty of profit on it.

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There is only one version on DVD my friend.

You mean this one or this one?

And VHS and theater releases count too. You can't say he didn't rerelease it when he obviously did.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

but in the grand scheme of things, THEY'RE HIS FUCKING FILMS AND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WITH THEM.

Although truthfully, they're no more his films than the directors he chose to stand in on Empire and Return, or the actors that made up all of the characters we know and love. Etc.

He simply is in a position to ask for more money. What is there to be said? He's a fucking vampire. He may have the "right" to do whatever he wants with the film, but that doesn't mean everyone else should stop calling him a profiteering asshole for it.

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Originally Posted by Skexis

What is there to be said? He's a fucking vampire. He may have the "right" to do whatever he wants with the film, but that doesn't mean everyone else should stop calling him a profiteering asshole for it.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying that people bitch about him not having the right to do it even though they're his films and it fucking disgusts me. What are we, fascists?

I don't agree with everything Lucas has done, but that doesn't change the fact that he had the right to do it. That's all I'm saying.

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Guys, guys, guys! I'm not a STAR WARS freak, per se, but I've heard countless times about the fact that the movies, the new trilogy, the gazillion of books plus the old trilogy contradicts itself like crazy.

So you just have to realise that the series as a whole is quite flawed and idiotic and learn to love the only true masterpieces of it all; the original trilogy. Remember that? Remember when we used to think that the galaxy was ENORMOUS instead of the fact that everyone knows each other, like Lucas did in the new trilogy.

How ya doing, buddy?

Me personally, I just wanna wait until Lucas puts the entire film saga of Star Wars in one bundle. That to me, would be the untilmate collection to get. I have the first trilogy on VHS [infact, it's the videos on the first page]. I'm content with those, and I don't think I need to re-buy the DVD version of it. I'm curious though...just this past christmas they released a different trilogy, it had a colored drawing pic of the original Star Wars cast on the cover of it. I thought that version of the trilogy was the original one, without all the special editions stuff? Forgive me ignorance, I don't follow Star Wars avidly.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Karasu

I'm curious though...just this past christmas they released a different trilogy, it had a colored drawing pic of the original Star Wars cast on the cover of it. I thought that version of the trilogy was the original one, without all the special editions stuff?

Not at all. For all intents and purposes, it was the 2004 release without the 4th bonus disc, and different artwork. It was an excuse to sell more copies, and no doubt to trick people such as yourself into buying it.

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Originally Posted by Karasu

I'm curious though...just this past christmas they released a different trilogy, it had a colored drawing pic of the original Star Wars cast on the cover of it. I thought that version of the trilogy was the original one, without all the special editions stuff? Forgive me ignorance, I don't follow Star Wars avidly.

Nah, it's the same "revised" edition as the other DVD pack, it's simply missing some bonus disc.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...v=glance&n=130

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All I can say is thank God. I hated Hayden Christianson in the II and III and lucas be damned I don't want to see his ugly mug stuck in the GOOD trilogy. I saw enough of his static, unemotional, ugly and boring face in II and III.

By far the worst travesty IMHO was making Greedo shoot first. I mean WTF mate? Hans whole demeanor in that situation made no sense whatsoever. He's supposed to be a bad-ass space pirate, not some sort of pansy.

That, and the CGI they stuck in was really out of place when with everything else they used puppets.

From what I read, this "re-re-re-re-re-re-re-release" or whatever it is by now is still remastered like the re-re-re....the release before this one, so I don't see why it would be subpar quality.

All I can say is south park had it right when they had an episode complaining about directors trying to change films . These films belong to everyone, not just the director...theres something just WRONG about perverting a series that was amazing and perfect to begin with. They are part of history...I mean its almost as bad as rewriting the textbooks to say the south won.

...fanboy rant over .

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Haven't we had the "It's Lucas' vision" versus "Lucas is a senile old man" debate about 40 times over already? There's not going to be any reconciliation between the two camps, let it go. This is not a zero sum game, you're allowed to have both versions. If nothing else, the originals should exist for the sake of marvelling at what ILM managed to accomplish with 1970s level technology.

Still, I'm not at all seeing why they can't go to the trouble of giving the original masters another pass. Yes, 1993 technology isn't as good as 2004 technology - so why give all your fans the finger by refusing to clean up the image any further with 2006 technology? Granted, the difference will probably go unnoticed by most people, but it still reeks of unprofessionalism.

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Here's what I don't get: Shouldn't it be possible to release the original (cleaned up but original content) version alongside with the SE version on the same DVD?
Other movies manage to do that. Why - short of cashing in even more - can't Star Wars do that?

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Originally Posted by Tellurian

Here's what I don't get: Shouldn't it be possible to release the original (cleaned up but original content) version alongside with the SE version on the same DVD?
Other movies manage to do that. Why - short of cashing in even more - can't Star Wars do that?

That's actually the plan, unless I'm reading the article wrong. Individual film releases, with 2 discs each of original and special edition both included.

It begs the question of why they weren't both released initially, though. I'm not entirely sure I buy the explanation that it would cost millions to have done it simultaneously with the production of the 2004 release. They had to clean up the original footage to make the 1997 theatrical release, so someone in the industry has to have the unrevised, cleaned footage. The sound production is the same situation. Nothing would have needed to go to the studio if they had just kept the footage on file. From there it would just be a matter of consumer-end costs like packaging and promotion (Promotion? Ha! As if it would have been necessary.)

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Originally Posted by Skexis

You mean this one or this one?

I was refering to how many versions of the movies had made it to DVD, not how many times it has been released on the format.

Those two sets have the same version of the movies in them, one set is just a different box, less the bonus disc as you probablly know. As far as releasing a specific version of the films, they both have the same one, hence one version on DVD thus far.

I was speaking idiomatically.