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[PC] Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine Online
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Old Dec 3, 2008, 06:19 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 07:19 PM #26 of 66
Am downloading as I type this, will be trying this out as soon as I get everything installed and etc.

Of course, with my oftentimes lousy Internet connection god knows how good/crap the experience will be, but hey, it's SMT. Worth a try anyway.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Dec 3, 2008, 07:20 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 06:20 AM #27 of 66


I'm content (although curious as to why she's suddenly weak to Fire, although being resistant to all the other elements makes up for it).

Not the ultimate newbie partner, but is okay for random Bufula.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 3, 2008, 02:08 PM #28 of 66
I'll tell you once I get the bloody Installer to actually run without freezing on me.
I had the same problem. I'm not sure why. Something tells me it was Vista's UAC making it lock up, because it installed fine after I disabled it.

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Old Dec 3, 2008, 02:18 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 07:18 PM #29 of 66
My name is Haughm.

Played through the tutorial sections. Going to give it a bit longer before I decide what I think.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 3, 2008, 02:53 PM #30 of 66
Started playing last night. Just got the leader fairy and now training it up for the quest.

My name's ArOne.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Dec 3, 2008, 11:33 PM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 10:33 PM #31 of 66
I've been looking at the tree for the various magics I decided to attempt to pick up. It seems like picking up Curative really is a waste, at least to go all out in it, since the demons really can do it much better. Most likely will just stop at Media or so because area heal is nice.

Seems like Destruction Magic kind of forces you to either split your path or make one side really strong. It's not too bad when you can eventually make it so the demon you use can make up for what you don't grab, but they would not be able to do it as good as you.

The obvious differences between the elements:
  • Flame is the strongest (out of the four elements you have access to that is, Megido still laughs at it)
  • Freeze has the longest cooldown and whatnot but longest range and lowest MP cost
  • Electric is just Electric lololol
  • Force is the quickest but has shortest range and greatest MP cost

Freeze -- Flame -- Electric -- Force -- (Enemy here) in terms of range.

The split is between Flame and Freeze, and Electric and Force. Although it just lets you cast a lower version of the spell twice in succession while increasing the cost (aka when you are at the Agilao and Bufula range, you can cast Agi or Bufu twice in a row) so it might not be that big of a change unless you're having a hard time deciding on the area versions.

Support and Curse appear useless unless you are going to Chain-Expertise a Gun type >_>

I'll still pick up some random buff anyway since the Demon can't do it all.

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 09:18 AM #32 of 66
So does anyone else have an extremely frustrating time befriending demons in this game or is it just me?
Oh wait till you get to the late end demons. I died so many times trying to negotiate with them, though for the dialogue in the game was in Japanese which didn't help at all.

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 04:32 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 03:32 PM #33 of 66
Current Status~

Disconnecting too much to really advance past the end of episode 1.

Just building up funds so I can upgrade to the best possible armor from Shinjuku Babel and move onward.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 04:41 PM #34 of 66
Current Status~

Disconnecting too much to really advance past the end of episode 1.

Just building up funds so I can upgrade to the best possible armor from Shinjuku Babel and move onward.
Damn, Lace.

1. I knew I saw you when I had to collect those Soul Shards. I figured it was you.
2. Garms are awesome.
3. I have some catching up to do.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 05:36 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 04:36 PM #35 of 66
Damn, Lace.

1. I knew I saw you when I had to collect those Soul Shards. I figured it was you.
2. Garms are awesome.
3. I have some catching up to do.
Yeah when I saw that fellow walk by I told Taco and Karistar "That seems like someone from GFF"

Garms are okay, Brave Garm is awesome since at 25 he gets the area version of Tarukaja, so PATK+ for everyone~

I finally figured out how to raise Curse and Support magic and I feel like an idiot for not noticing it sooner.

Wishing the DC didn't have to have one entry but tabs for all the variations.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 05:47 PM #36 of 66
I was wondering who you were partied up with as well... Time to go make that first post of mine useful.

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 05:59 PM #37 of 66
Servers are way too unstable to do any dungeon running. Getting kind of annoying.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 08:27 PM #38 of 66
I just started, character name Barzahd.

I'm lv4 I think and did the first quest after the tutorial (the one with the pixie)

Can someone explain to me how to really contract a demon because I think i did it with luck, All I did is hitting the talk button over and over in hope that she wants to join me. Is that all you need to do?

oh and I think I'll try to be a gunner, is there a place where I can get a decent gun at the starting area or I still need to wait before trying to find one?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 08:53 PM #39 of 66
That's basically all you need to do to contract demons. Talk to them until it works. Weakening them helps occasionally as well.

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 10:14 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 09:14 PM #40 of 66
That's basically all you need to do to contract demons. Talk to them until it works. Weakening them helps occasionally as well.
Any form of damage actually lowers the chance of negotiations working. This is not Pokeymans.

There are upgrades to Talk later on that skip all the fluff and go straight to one of the 5 end results, but they cost something (like 1000 Macca, or 1000 Magnetite).

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 10:38 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 09:38 PM #41 of 66
Having problems even getting on the server, started to make character and then disconnect.

=[

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 10:41 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 08:41 PM #42 of 66
Well guys, this IS a closed beta. Its to be expected (But no less annoying).

Inhert: Just go to the weapon's shop. They have various guns, at different prices. When you start getting more and more money, you can upgrade.

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Old Dec 4, 2008, 10:52 PM #43 of 66
Any form of damage actually lowers the chance of negotiations working. This is not Pokeymans.


Well, I managed to get a Cait Sith that way...

Still at level 10... Partying up with a friend on the Backloggery... Trying to finish Chapter 1 - Act 3.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 11:28 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2008, 10:28 PM #44 of 66
They took down the servers because the GM team has been pulling an allnighter to try to figure out what is going on.

They think they have it down now so they put their engineers to work on it.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 03:30 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 01:30 AM #45 of 66
Apparently they fixed whatever the issue was, because now they're open again.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 5, 2008, 03:55 AM #46 of 66
Apparently it was a lag issue with the servers... After I logged back on, I did notice a huge difference.

Finally hit level 15... Now I just gotta get a demon up to level 12. <_<

How ya doing, buddy?
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Old Dec 5, 2008, 09:59 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 08:59 AM #47 of 66
I am working on a project to make the ultimate Jack Frost.

Well it probably won't be the ultimate since this is a Beta so I do not feel like getting all the ultimate skills knowing a wipe will eventually roll our way but anyway I'm trying to see what I can and cannot pass on.

Hoping my Jack Frost will Inherit:
  • Hama
  • Agi
  • Zionga
  • Dormina
  • Media
  • Fierce Counter (Does it learn this? I dunno!)

Sad thing is, I know at least half of those do work, even at the higher ends because there are a few players on JP server who trot around with Jack Frost builds like that. I wanted to pass on Agilao but the only thing I have available that would get it won't get it til 73, so forget that.

Now to get hit by Expel / Fire / Electric / Mind / Cure 99999 times to learn them (before I attempt to make a Jack Frost and inevitably fail, hard)!

FELIPE NO
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Old Dec 5, 2008, 10:26 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 08:26 AM #48 of 66
Are there any user-made Fusion charts up? I'm pretty sure some of the Japanese players made something, but it would all in moon-speak and I don't have the patience to try and translate.

Otherwise, I guess I could make one via Trial-and-Error, tack it all in a Spreadsheet, and fix it up for a .PDF or something.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 10:38 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 09:38 AM #49 of 66
I've seen a few pictures on the aeriagames forum, by one of the people who helped AeriaGames translate stuff for the closed beta.

JP wiki has a giant table in a spreadsheet format, the problem is figuring out what all the English names for the families are. Also figuring out how to organize what exactly you would get since it's based on the sum of their levels.

Then you factor in the Elementals which force the families to either go UP or DOWN a level due to their erratic nature. Something about their instabilities resulting from combining the same family causing them to force evolutions or de-evolutions in certain families.

I'm guessing for me, since I'm kind of fucked:

Harthor + Nozuch = Pyro Jack (I already tested to see what I would get, 18+14 [default levels] falls within the range of Pyro Jack).

Pyro Jack + Aeros (Fairy x Fairy) = High Pixie
High Pixie + Aeros = Jack Frost

The problem is hoping the skills I want to Inherit will keep passing down along the line.

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Old Dec 5, 2008, 12:54 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2008, 10:54 AM #50 of 66
Well I was talking something simple like just what combos give out other monsters.
I'll leave all the Elemental + Skills Sets + etc., to other, more HARDCORE MegaTen fans.

As far as the English to Japanese or whatever, I dunno, I'm just going by what they're called in the CB.

However for myself, I've gotten the following so far:
Kodoma + Lost Hua Bo = Earthys
Cait Sith + Leader Pixie = Angel
Angel + Inugami = Shiishaa


If no one else wants so, I guess I can whip something up later (Or we can be like the 90s and Collaborate).

How ya doing, buddy?

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