[General Discussion] Games You Can Never Beat But Keep Trying Anyway

I have beaten Ninja Gaiden I and II for the NES. III I have never played for more than 15 minutes, it kicks my ass every time. I've heard there's an ancient ship of doom in there somewhere?

I believe the Batman game for the NES is on the same league of the Ninja Gaiden trilogy. It has great graphics, an incredible soundtrack, and it's quite challenging. Seriously, I can't believe they sold it to kids. It's that hard.
My parents bought for me when I was 8 years old, and it was my freakin' Everest until I was 14, when I finally beat it. I still played it a lot cause it was very fun.

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Viewtiful Joe on Adult for me. I know many people have finished the game on Adult and the two further difficulties, but Fire Leo is frustration on its own level.

It's not that the boss itself is hard (I mean, he is, but that's not the only problem), usually when you have a hard boss in VJ, you keep trying, restarting from the beginning of the match over and over till you finally manage to beat him.

With Fire Leo, it's hideously annoying because a game over means you restart the whole stage, which just so happens to be a boss marathon fight against all the previous bosses in harder form (without Alastor, though) before you actually get to Leo. I know how I'm supposed to beat him, I know how to dodge the attacks and make him spin and them lay it on him and then back away and I know he goes even harder when you finally get to the very last bit of his last life bar. I've just never managed to do all that in one go without slipping up.

I remember starting the game on Kids, thinking it was "normal", while Adult was "hard", played for five minutes, restarted on Adult, played all the way to Fire Leo and after a week of trying, gave up. I later restarted on Kids and played through the game without a single continue. The gap between Kids and Adult was huge for me, and while I hope I will one day finish it on Adult, I don't think I'll be getting past Fire Leo any time soon.

The rest of VJ is hard but plays fair. When you die, you feel it's your own fault. But with Fire Leo, while I know I'm just not good enough, actually getting good against him is unnecessarily bothersome since you spend half of the tries fighting the other bosses and not him.


As for anyone wondering about Ninja Gaiden 3 should check out the SDA run on it (non-emulated).

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I also forgot to mention Ironsword: Wizards And Warriors 2. You know, the game with Fabio on the cover? I think I got to the first boss once. ONCE. You had to go up a mountain and then into a world of clouds. Except they werent clouds because you couldnt walk on them, you fucking slid all over the place like a janitor mopping up after a scat movie.

It's a fact that this game is impossible to beat, and can only be done with the help of a Game Genie. Even then it's still retardedly hard because the game controls like utter pig shit.

Ikaruga was just hard enough to where I couldn't do it with 5 continues, I needed to unlock the golden handicap of unlimited continues. After that it would take about 6 continues, 7 or 8 if I was lazy to beat the game.

For some reason, I could never beat the last boss in FFIV. I was never able to do it, no matter how much I leveled up (granted, it wasn't to dizzying degrees, but still reasonable). I'm hoping to re-try when it's released on DS soon.

I also couldn't get past this one boss very early on in Lunar: Eternal Blue Complete. It was in an icy level as far as I recall, and I tried beating him for 2 weeks before I flat-out gave up. Shitty, I know.

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Originally Posted by Encephalon

I was playing Wii earlier tonight and I forgot I had purchased this game for the VC: Ninja Gaiden.

Go on. I dare anyone to tell me they've seen the ending to this game.

I have a friend who beat it last year for the first time. I never got much further then Bloody Moth.

As for Maximum Carnage... that game is just cruel. You think you've beaten the game, the credits start to roll and Carnage pops out for one last fight!

I was speaking idiomatically.

You know, even to this day, try as I might, I cannot beat Tetris.

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1.) Contra - It seems that no matter what I do, I get punked early on. Ecah and every time.

2.) Ghoul's and Ghosts (my mind is going blah, I hope this is the name) - Insane difficulty with you only being able able to take two hits.

3.) Beyond the Beyond - I guess I SHOULD have beaten this game. However, I got so annoyed with it eventually (I guess therefore defeating the purpose of this choice given the thread title) as mages would continually knock my characters dizzy. Oh, and there was a high encounter rate too to make things much more annoying.

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Super Mario Brothers: The Lost Levels on NES. I've beaten it on SNES in All-Stars because when you continue you start at the start of the level instead of at the start of the world, but the NES version is excruciating. I downloaded it on the VC and beat it, but that was only after the ability to save your progress so it doesn't count, even then it took me about 2 months.

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Originally Posted by mortis

1.) Contra - It seems that no matter what I do, I get punked early on. Ecah and every time.

Contra, like Contra III and Final Fantasy Tactics, is a game that turns boys into men. If I can beat Contra (and I'm not much of a gamer), so can you. If you were born at or before 1989, I think this is something everyone needs to do.

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Originally Posted by Nintendonomicon

I believe the Batman game for the NES is on the same league of the Ninja Gaiden trilogy. It has great graphics, an incredible soundtrack, and it's quite challenging. Seriously, I can't believe they sold it to kids. It's that hard.
My parents bought for me when I was 8 years old, and it was my freakin' Everest until I was 14, when I finally beat it. I still played it a lot cause it was very fun.

I had that game too, and Castlevania II and Bayou Billy and like, every other utterly frustrating game ever made on the NES. Goddamn, you'd think I did it on purpose. I did beat Batman eventually, but like you it took me years. The Batman game by Sunsoft for the Gameboy is a lot more forgiving, and also extremely awesome. I recommend it!

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I'd have to say ninja gaiden III US version: this game is just so impossible for me, I can beat Ninja Gaiden I,II and III but only the JAP version, in the US version the birds' damage was improved and some of the enemies at some sections, it was just so intrincate to kill anything, so that'd be it for me, all the other games that have given me trouble I've managed to beat.

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FFTactics? I always felt that was easy and fun.

Heh, the sad thing I'm not nearly as good as I was in my younger years. These last few years have cramped my video gaming style...

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Originally Posted by Encephalon

I was playing Wii earlier tonight and I forgot I had purchased this game for the VC: Ninja Gaiden.

Go on. I dare anyone to tell me they've seen the ending to this game.

Kinda funny you say something, I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about the first 2 Ninja Gaidens recently, all about how much a pain in the ass they were. He has his original XBOX modded and has all the old classics on there. We took turns, and to my surprise, really didn't have much of a problem in any particular part until the very end. Thanks to the power of save-states, we were able to finally see the ending, sans youtube this time around .

One game that I have never beaten, despite coming back every few years, is the original GI Joe games on the NES. For those of you who haven't played either of the two, they're both side-scrollers. Not bad, pretty fun for the most part. But, especially in the original, there are parts where it just gets mindfuckingly hard. I recall when I revisited the game about a year ago now, I finally got to the last stage, and it was a fucking joke, like not a person alive is getting through that. I think I'll try again on that note.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Drakkhen is a former masochistic pleasure of mine. I used to occasionally start a new file saying "Yeah, THIS TIME I'll beat it!". The thing about it was that I could never figure out what to do. How could a game with so much random talking not explain what to do!? Those sky monsters come once in a while to rape my party into oblivion. What the hell...

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon

You know, even to this day, try as I might, I cannot beat Tetris.

You have a point there. But I DID have a huge sense of accomplishment seeing the fucking KREMLIN blast off.

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I would have to say, that I have actually beaten Ironsword: Wizard & Warriors 2 and also Maximum Carnage. I didn't realize that people actually found those games quite challenging. Now obviously nobody is going to believe me because you either show proof or it didn't happen. A saying a lot of GFFers go by for sure.

In terms of Maximum Carnage, I think I beat the game but I'm not too sure. I vividly remember fighting Carnage by himself in a park of some sort with a large building you can climb up on in the middle and it was daylight as the last level. I think you could actually use both spiderman and venom to fight him and alternate between them if one got killed. It has been a long time since I've finished the game, but I know I played the game several times and picked many different routes to try to find the one that suited me the best. I also took the time to try to find the items that allowed you to continue. I also found one helpful technique is when you fight some of the earlier bosses that can't climb up and hit you. Just stay clinged to the wall and keep drop kicking the bosses, it may take a while but you can beat them with taking any damage especially against the umbrella brothers and bosses of that nature.

As much as your not going to believe me sprout, I have beaten Ironsword: Wizard and Warriors 2 but to be honest it is no easy feat by any means. When you have a small video game library being a young teen and all the other games are beaten. You just keep playing the game until you beat it. Lehah your absolutely right the game is utter bullshit, the way you jump makes the game so incredibly hard. I use to get stuck on the fire level all the time, but I guess through sheer patience I managed to beat it. I think what helps is when you know where your going which is a challenge in itself, because for each boss you have to attain an attack that will only work on the boss of that level. What is even more worse is the fact that the last level you have to fight all four elements, and they're quick and its not very easy to hit him. Its at least 13 years since I've beaten it but I do know I have beaten it.

Hey Lehah I managed to beat contra, but not actually on the nes. I actually beat the first contra game at the arcade. Is that even credible.

In terms of Contra III, I've beaten the game on easy and medium difficulty but never hard. It has been a long time since I've played it, but it is fairly challenging. The furthest I've ever gotten on hard difficulty was the motorcycle level and then my ass just gets raped.

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I just remembered another game.

Milon's secret castle or whatever it was called. IT was that game where you have to get tons of keys to evetually rescue the princess. You had like, oh, 50 lives and needed each and every one of them. If you messed up with keys then...blah...

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I remember spending months and months of my life trying to beat Doom 2 on the hardest setting (Nightmare I think) but I reckon it was actually impossible without cheats. Not only did zombies and imps constantly spawn around you and being essentially 2D you only had left and right as dodging options, you simply didn't get enough ammo to kill even half of the enemies that you met. I think level 7 was the furthest I ever got, at which point you get jumped by about 20 spider demons and have basically no hope of leaving the room alive. Even with the cheats it'd take 20 minutes to kill them all and on the very last level, with God mode on, you had to finish the level in about 3 minutes otherwise the slowdown from the number of cyberdemons stomping around crippled my 486 DX2 down to an absolute crawl.

Also, I never finished Jet Set Willy, despite spending most of my time at primary and early secondary school attempting to do so. It was just so unforgiving and had a nasty habit of re-spawning you in front of monsters when you died. Tough, tough game that one.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Qwarky

Viewtiful Joe on Adult for me. I know many people have finished the game on Adult and the two further difficulties, but Fire Leo is frustration on its own level.

Oh god, add that to my list. I picked up Viewtiful Joe 2 reccently, and wondered why I never beat Viewtiful Joe. I really enjoyed it, but I must've been stuck somewhere. Well, I figured I'd run home, fire up the game, and finish it off. Turns out I was stuck in that exact spot. That damn Fire Leo. I played for a few hours that day and could not string together everything to get through there. I've probably been stuck there a couple years now.

Batman for the NES is also a game I picked up not too long ago, and I can see I may have trouble beating it anytime soon. There's a lot of hard stuff I'll have to learn how to deal with in that game. Most bosses have been destroying me the first couple tries while I try to learn their patterns. I can only imagine how painful it may be at the end of the game. This game might take me a good while.

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Most of my failures have been with the Contra series. I have never been able to beat any of the Contra games (though admittedly, I've only played I and III). There's just too much shit going on screen for me.

And while I can easily beat Double Dragon III consistently, I have a lot of trouble beating Double Dragon I and II. Double Dragon I usually gets me around the time stage 3 rolls around because it's so damn long. The spikes really screw me over too. The ones that fall from the ceiling in the caves, along with the wall of death in the fourth one. Double Dragon II usually gets me around the time Stage 6 rolls around with the ridiculous amount of instant death pits.

As for Double Dragon III, most enemies can be dispatched with you moving up and down and using the spin kick at the right time. Otherwise, you can mash the punch button with Chin. Most bosses can be dispatched with either Billy's Nunchucks or Chin's Iron Claws or a combination of both. The only stage that might be an issue is the last stage, Most of the tactics still work here when you find enemies in the traditional x-y plane. In the flat x-plane areas where you can only move left to right, there are usually some pits of death you can take advantage of as well. You just need Ranzou and stand near a pit with your enemies on the other side. They will fly towards you with a kick, but if you mash your sword attack, that has longer range and takes priority, so you'll usually knock them back with it, usually into a pit. The other trick is Billy's Somersault. This often overlooked move allows Billy to pass through enemies unharmed, which makes it useful when there are people jumping at you. Actually using this move in real combat might be harder, but it's a good evasive move against a flying jump kick. (Don't try to use this on the first part of Stage 5, since I don't think you'll make it to the platform if you do. Use it once you get inside.) As for the final boss...the main trick is to move in diagonals when she goes underground, her attack won't hit you, and you'll end up in a fairly close position where you might be able to land a few hits in. The other hint is to never get too far away, since she'll hit you easily, and you'll have no way of hitting her. Randomly if you trap her in a corner, you can take out Chin and mash punch again, moving down a bit after each combo. That'll really tear into her HP if you can keep it up.

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Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie on SNES.

Seriously, fuck the 6th stage.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Pretty much anything from Team Ninja... I'll never be "hardcore" enough to beat them, but they're still fun to indulge in once in a while.

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I would have to say Conquest of the Crystal Palace (NES). If you like NES platformers in the vein of Ghosts & Goblins (ninja action vs. plumber action) then it's a great title. It's by Asmik which was a great developer - Boomer's Adventure in Asmik World is one of the greatest Gameboy action/puzzle games ever. However, this game just gets excrutiatingly hard in places, not unlike G&G. There are places where you experience slowdown, for example, because there are 20 enemies falling from the sky that you have to slash your way through like you're some sort of demented snow-shoveller in a blizzard or something. Then, even after all of the difficult levels, if you reach the end, the boss is 10 times harder than the rest of the game. A true "boss," in other words. Not only content to shoot at you from the right side of the screen, he also rains down the ceiling upon you. And if you've made it that far, your lives and continues are gone so if you want to learn the boss' pattern you'll have to play all over again. I actually have this cart for NES; it's a great and rare classic. Now that I am "old," I can hardly get to the first boss let alone past him.

Another title I will mention is Blood for PC on the hardest level. If you read the instruction booklet, the 4th level of difficulty is only meant for co-op play, but you can still choose it in single-player mode. I had an extremely difficult, long journey to beat the game on the hardest mode using every cheat except God mode. What's more difficult than insane, evil mimes after all, while you're just trying to chill and play a game of zombie-head soccer?

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I remember Captain America and the Avengers for the SNES gave me plenty of trouble back in the day. Aside from being a horrible arcade port, I remember that the enemies could pretty much juggle your character back and forth if their positioning was right. The horrible sounds the game made were even worse. I can't remember exactly how far my brother and I got in it, but I know we never made it to Red Skull. Still, we kept trying at it. Nowadays, I'd much rather play the arcade original on MAME than play that crappy port.

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie on SNES.

And I thought I was the only person who played that sack of shit.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I never thought there would be a topic like this, but most of the games I still have

Here it goes,
Jungle Book -Genisis
Sonic The Hedgehog-Genisis
Toy Story-Genisis
Sonic Advance 3Gba (couldn't beat supersonic stage)
Rainbow 6 Vegas (have no idea)
Megaman X 4 (couldnt beat last boss)

I have alot more, but these are the ones I have had a struggle on
most of these games you might haven't heard of.

Don't brag that you have beat this game (which I'm sure you might do)

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