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OiNK was the best source of music on the web. So sad right now.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by whinehurst

hey.

don't talk shit about the Pirate Bay. they're bout to set up a data haven (re: William Gibson). How sweet would that be? very sweet. very.

as someone who likes free things, regardless of the legal gray areas, i'm sad to see this happen. And i've never used Oink.

Originally Posted by Free.User

It may not be the best, but the fact that I've gone there numerous times and found exactly what I was looking for (with helpful comments) renders that statement utter crap.

The problem with both of these places is that by and large people act like jerks. They don't seed and people just leave torrents abandoned and then you see it full of folks whining for a seed.

They may be cool or whatever, but the experience I have downloading from both of them is miserable.

With OiNK and other more private trackers, people are respectful, seed, and come back to torrents if they are abandoned.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

So, where do I go to get V0 now that OiNK is gone? I'm really going to miss that place!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

Hmmmm.

I once obtained an invitation to OiNK in an attempt to acquire a better filesharing source. However, I found much of the OiNK community to be elitists and their standards absurdly stringent. It seemed that in order to download anything from OiNK, you first had to upload or make available twice as much. And heaven forbid you have basic procedural questions; their FAQs seemed quite unforgiving of people who weren't already experts at creating torrents.

I spent a week reading through the OiNK guides, lurking and studying the patterns of established users. In the end, I didn't like what I saw, an elite cadre of audiophiles who cast a disapproving glare at the music community from within the high walls of their precious, precious ivory tower. Yes, OiNK was a good site for acquiring high quality albums at the earliest moment of opportunity, but the internet benefits from trickle-down theory like nothing else can; I could wait.

I'm not truly sad to see OiNK go. Their place will be assumed by another cackling heap of elitists, I'm sure. But I'm amused by the fervent attempts by Interpol and others to put the damper on technological progress. Eventually, the music industry will understand that technology has outmoded 90% of their business practices. Until then, I'll just continue laughing.

I couldn't agree more with what you said about OiNK. I don't think I've seen a private music sharing site with such ridiculous standards. Only super nerds really understand most of their particular guidelines. It was especially pathetic how everyone clung onto every little scrap they could find to seed as well. I can't say I'm sad to see it go, either. It's true that the music industry's crackdown seems futile at times, but I wonder how hard they'll try to cling onto their piece of the pie and what other tactics they'll deploy.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It's a place where people expect a certain standard of music. You can download any crap rip of music from any site. This place was an exception.

Transcording is important, because if you transcode a 96kbit mp3 into a 192kbit it will sound like shit. You know if it's transcoded or not BY RIPPING it your self, not downloading it.

This sucks, surely there will be an alternative in the future.

FELIPE NO

Quote:

Only super nerds really understand most of their particular guidelines.

I beg to differ. The only key things you needed to learn was:

1) Know how to upload torrents (You have a 5GB buffer to get good with). Easiest if you seed a brand new highly requested album.

2) Have music encoded at least at 192kbps. Anybody who listens to a wide range of music keenly will tell you that a bitrate below that just doesn't cut it. I can understand this being a bit of an argumentative issue about how significant a difference can be felt but as a baseline, 192kbps and above. Standard and safe.

3) No transcodes. You only need to worry about this if you're trying to upload really popular music and your mp3 album of it sounds grainy. A simple read through of the FAQ provided will show you how to 'analyze' it. No need to understand, just know how to tell if it's a transcode that's all.

I'm gonna miss the site that's for sure. Never really interacted on the forums and their 'active' members, there but any visitor to the site will be able to say without a shot of a doubt, that that tracker oozed quality.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

One of my favorite things was the suggestions I could get by looking at what other people had snatched that had gotten the same file. Sure, sometimes it was just a list of total crap, but other times I'd find out about entirely new artists or albums by artists I liked.

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Honestly, my favorite thing was how they indexed bitrate in their database, and made it easily searchable. e.g. I could just type:

some search terms lossless

and it would find only lossless stuff (regardless of wether or not it was in FLAC of SHN or whatever). Demonoid sucks about that.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Fuck... I was still seeding stuff when it got raided. Looks like it's fucking CURTAINS FOR MY BROWN ASS.

Seriously though... I'm gonna miss Oink.

And lol at oink being in custody.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Ence... don't feel so bad. I didn't realize something was up until I checked my client this morning to discover something amiss. Went to the site to be greeted by that lovely message. Delete torrents from client and done. Wasn't a big deal for me... most of what I had on there is out-of-print anyway.
Never had an issue whenever I offered up albums. Sometimes someone would make the request for it in FLAC instead of V0, and I was happy to oblige. It didn't take a whole lot to do another rip since I actually used the music ripping guide on this site to do so.
Now to sit back and see what happens next as well as see what is going to pop up next. I know there was one site up rather quickly that was offering invites but they are based in the US and no way was I going to go for that one.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I loved OiNK, wasn't that hard for me to keep a good ratio.

There's a couple of retarded rumors and scam donation sites out there. People are relying on unreliable sites for news too much.

And I hear that ThePirateBay is releasing their own public version of OiNK, named BOiNK.

That's such a retarded combination. Imagine TPB users + OiNK. There would be lots of unseeded, transcoded, and/or fake torrents.
Is it even wise to hop on new trackers just so you can get a fix? or could this act be regarded as maintaining the fight against th authorities?

BTW, who wants some OiNK T-shirts? :P
I like the design of the OiNK piggy in the iconic Che Guevara pose.
http://www.cafepress.com/opplove
http://www.cafepress.com/opplovered
(Yes the links are from a reliable source, OiNK staff themselves)

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Apparently the people from TPB are going to try and run an OiNK clone called BOiNK.
Unfortunately, since they are going to be making it a public site much like TPB is now, there is going to be little in the way of quality assurance, since ratio restrictions, bans, and the like are going to make it just another torrent shit-hole like the parent site.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

i loved oink, i didn't mind the whole 'elitist' attitude, just stay out of the forums and mind your own business. it's NOT THAT HARD to keep a ratio, buy an album, rip it, and upload. anything you download, just leave your computer on and let it seed. the strict rules were what made it an exception, the great quality of music, the variety, and just the fact that with the ratio, any album could be downloaded in seconds.

boy am i gonna miss it...

(boink sounds lame, public trackers = dead torrents)

FELIPE NO

TPB may start something worthwhile or it may not. Oink started out as a public tracker and eventually 'privitized'. Boink may accomplish something or it may not, just that now it has the TPB brand attached we'll see tons of people swarming it.

Heh I remember on Oct 23rd I was wondering why the vast majority of my seeded torrents were turning red in uTorrent. Thought it was another Oink tracker reset or something then visited the webpage and "Oh frak".

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Check out this article at Demonbaby
When Pigs Fly: The Death of Oink, the Birth of Dissent, and a Brief History of Record Industry Suicide.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Oink was easily the best torrent site ever for music. I uploaded 100 torrents and was on there for over three years. I invited many people from GFF onto the site. I am going to miss it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Heh yeah I remember getting my invite off you Many thanks for that

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Don't care. I didn't like their rules or way they managed the site.

It wasn't just "okay, split a rar and create a torrent, must have over x gb, must not already be on the site." but more like, you had to properly rip it into the format you've described, perfectly, and detail the music as much as possible otherwise you risk the possibility of being banned or having your torrent nuked due to inaccurate bullshit and niggery.

Not "oh, hey, you're helping us out by uploading something! We appreciate it." but they made it feel like a privilege to be an uploader.

Fuck OiNK, I don't give a shit, maybe this will teach people to buy their own stuff for a change and maybe scene release groups will realize that leaking albums before their release date isn't a smart move in any way, shape or form. It's like niki said, they asked for it.

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Originally Posted by エリクシアーーーーーー

Don't care. I didn't like their rules or way they managed the site.

It wasn't just "okay, split a rar and create a torrent, must have over x gb, must not already be on the site." but more like, you had to properly rip it into the format you've described, perfectly, and detail the music as much as possible otherwise you risk the possibility of being banned or having your torrent nuked due to inaccurate bullshit and niggery.

Not "oh, hey, you're helping us out by uploading something! We appreciate it." but they made it feel like a privilege to be an uploader.

Fuck OiNK, I don't give a shit, maybe this will teach people to buy their own stuff for a change and maybe scene release groups will realize that leaking albums before their release date isn't a smart move in any way, shape or form. It's like niki said, they asked for it.

I assume you've never downloaded a file illegally then, huh?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Capo

I assume you've never downloaded a file illegally then, huh?

I have. Does this discredit my opinion of people being considered gay for purchasing their albums instead of downloading them these days?

I have a well paying job. If there's something I download (yes, illegally) that I like, I purchase it. If you don't have a well paying job and if you can't afford items and resort to downloading them as your only method of getting them, yes, you are guilty, not I.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by エリクシアーーーーーー

Does this discredit my opinion of people being considered gay for purchasing their albums instead of downloading them these days?

No, being Elixir discredits you from having any valid opinion about anything, ever.

FELIPE NO

The probability of you "getting what's coming to you" is the same, though. How do you know that all of those on OiNK weren't simply doing the same as you, and downloading to see if they liked it? Would you still blame them then?

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Originally Posted by Capo

The probability of you "getting what's coming to you" is the same, though. How do you know that all of those on OiNK weren't simply doing the same as you, and downloading to see if they liked it? Would you still blame them then?

You can't say all people on OiNK were downloading and then purchasing the albums. That's laughable. I'd be willing to say 10%, most likely less, would do this. The uploaders and their tight ass rules are to blame for having over 60 leaked albums on their site this year. They killed themselves because of it.

I mean it's not like something like this is unpredictable considering it's bound to be drawn to somebody's attention who can do something about it.

Originally Posted by LeHah

No, being Elixir discredits you from having any valid opinion about anything, ever.

Yeah I don't know about you but uh I don't spend hours online finding enjoyment in belittling others to make myself feel like I'm getting one up over my fellow man since I can't do that in real life. Thank god I'm not you.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by エリクシアーーーーーー

Yeah I don't know about you but uh I don't spend hours online

There's nowhere I can't reach.