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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:40 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 12:40 AM #26 of 75
Because V was fighting against a totalitarian fascist government, and last time I checked, America wasn't in that particular group. I suppose though they had to keep it set in Britain. Being true Hollywood film directors they would want to be faithful to some of the storyline, even if they do dissect the rest of it to pieces.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:46 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 07:46 PM #27 of 75
That's retarded. They've already succesfully alienated fans of the comic by altering the story so much (in Spielberg's case it was enough to make it implausible). They might have well gone full-out and focused it on something that would identify with an American audience, ignorant of the comics. Our first posters were some of these people.

The UK wasn't a totalitarian state at the time Moore wrote it, either. He had to create the war to make the situation plausible. The same can be said for the US.

If you've ever read Y: The Last Man on Earth, a similar situation almost happens, but that was pretty lame. (I do like Y, but it could do with less College Democrat)

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 07:58 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 12:58 AM #28 of 75
I'm a massive fan of the comic but I still liked the movie, no matter how far it strayed. Although yes, I completely see your point. I suppose it really doesn't matter as long as they're raking in money from people who have never heard of the stories before.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:24 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 09:24 PM #29 of 75
Just for reference, this is the first page of the first volume.



I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:33 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 02:33 AM #30 of 75
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Islamist Revolutionaries are clearly able to distinguish between a civilian pop, potentially innocent even, and a military and governmental front.
Of course they can, but their distorted moral code enables them to target either and - as you pointed out - preferably the easier targets (read: civilians). And I guess if someone is willing to blow himself and other people up, he surely had enough of whatever radical ideology he might follow to justify about anything with it.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:52 PM #31 of 75
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Also Lehah, I'm just saying that the Alliance was wrong, not that they were terrorists.
I wasn't talking about what you said. I've read it other places in infuriating stupidity

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 08:55 PM #32 of 75
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Of course they can, but their distorted moral code enables them to target either and - as you pointed out - preferably the easier targets (read: civilians). And I guess if someone is willing to blow himself and other people up, he surely had enough of whatever radical ideology he might follow to justify about anything with it.
Yet you don't need a distorted moral code to attack targets of opportunity. Their moral code doesn't make them any better or worse than the Oklahoma City Bomber.

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I wasn't talking about what you said. I've read it other places in infuriating stupidity
Clearly armed dissent == terrorism

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 01:47 AM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 11:47 PM #33 of 75
Shut the fuck up and go back to the Politcal Palace.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 12:12 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 12:12 PM #34 of 75
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 02:22 PM #35 of 75
I watched the movie yesterday and I loved it. It was very well done (though I didn't read the graphic novel, so I don't know how far it strayed and what not). I saw it with about 8 friends, and we all thought it was a really good movie and well worth the money,

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 02:37 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 07:37 PM #36 of 75
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Don't forget terrorosts do the above listed to accomplish what freedom fighters do, except they use some BS like a few lines from their holy scripture to justify it.
Don't forget that Osama Bin Laden used to be considered a freedom fighter by the U.S.A.

Anyway, concerning the film, Hollywood has proven that there isn't a single Alan Moore graphic novel that it can't ruin. And when you factor in the matrix brothers you know it's going to suck.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:35 PM #37 of 75
Originally Posted by kinkymagic
And when you factor in the matrix brothers you know it's going to suck.
Thats a silly comment - given that they made a couple good movies

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 18, 2006, 04:49 PM #38 of 75
I enjoyed the first Matrix, I can't say much about the second or third however.

I never read the comics, nor was disposed to the character. So, for someone like me, I look forward to seeing the movie tonight, especially since theres very little out at the moment. I can hope that it'll be worth the money.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 05:04 PM #39 of 75
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ITS A MOVIE FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Just sit back relax and enjoy it! Not everyone is trying to say something. They might just be weaving a plot. So even though I'm not allowed to see it (rated R you know. damn.) I'm still thinking about sneakin in with some friends.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 05:17 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 11:17 PM #40 of 75
Shut the fuck up and go back to the Politcal Palace.
Quoted for truth.

Why not keep the discussion to what's relevant in the film, I'd rather read people's views on the film, not the bullshit in Iraq, blah blah.

The trailer looked nifty, I must go see this after I've handed in my last assignment on the 29th, most people have given the film a thumbs up, I haven't really read what the critics are saying.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 06:58 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 06:58 PM #41 of 75
Clarifying between Terrorists and Freedom Fighters is relevant to the movie, you shitheel. One of the more important questions of the book is whether or not V is really a revolutionary, or is simply working towards his own personal vendetta.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 07:41 PM #42 of 75
Well. the movie was very good, and interesting. A great story about restarting a establishment to what he thought was a wrongful establishment.

This movie was a great. It showed alot. Fear gets the best of everyone. The movie was showing that when one person takes a stand, the rest will follow. The only reason they had to sit there and watch the lies of the government is because they thought they could do nothing about what they were doing.

Well Codename:V was not a terrorist. He was a terrorist in the eyes of people that believed the government and thier lies were correct.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 02:59 AM #43 of 75
there wasn't a single moment I didn't love. an absolutely amazing film. I've (quite shamefully) never read the graphic novel but fully intend to buy it the very second I get my next paycheck.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 03:40 PM #44 of 75
This movie was incredible.

Best film of 2006 so far.

And they played the Silent Hill trailer before it (nice!).

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 04:52 PM #45 of 75
I just saw this last night...and I thought it was really good...but like not completely 'cause of the storyline. I think what really won this movie over for me was V himself...just his character design and everything. Plus, the actor playing him was just really excellent. He body language and hand gestures were superb in letting you know the emotion of the character despite the mask. I was impressed.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:50 PM #46 of 75
Originally Posted by JazzFlight
This movie was incredible.

Best film of 2006 so far.

And they played the Silent Hill trailer before it (nice!).
seems like each theater shows different previews... I got Poseidon and Superman Returns instead. Bleh...

The movie was really great. I, too, haven't read the graphic novel(s?), so I can't comment on the content. But it was a great entertainment. Which is the purpose of a movie, anyway.

All that isleft to say is Nathalie Portman, shaved, is.... different.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:54 PM #47 of 75
Originally Posted by cubed
seems like each theater shows different previews... I got Poseidon and Superman Returns instead. Bleh...

The movie was really great. I, too, haven't read the graphic novel(s?), so I can't comment on the content. But it was a great entertainment. Which is the purpose of a movie, anyway.

All that isleft to say is Nathalie Portman, shaved, is.... different.
I got Poseidon, Superman Returns AND Silent Hill...maybe you just missed it.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:59 PM #48 of 75
I got in 10 minutes before it started. My theater is managed by a moron. I'm not surprised he would have cut that trailer off. Right after the Superman Returns trailer, there's no notification that it is now the "feature presentation". It starts with the Warner Bros and the DC Comics logo.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 07:59 PM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 04:59 PM #49 of 75
Just saw the movie and I thought it was great! However, im curious as to why the orignal creator distanced himself from the movie. What part of the story was trivialized and what am I missing?

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 08:44 PM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 08:44 PM #50 of 75
Originally Posted by agreatguy6
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ITS A MOVIE FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Just sit back relax and enjoy it! Not everyone is trying to say something.
Possibly one of the best things you could do given your attitude is see this movie.
Shut the fuck up and let people think as much as they damn well please. You can continue drooling into your cheerios in a second.

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