Man found dead in bar....

Originally Posted by Denicalis

First off, it was an oh-by-the way because somebody died in a bar of natural causes, and that doesn't happen every day. If he'd died in the parking lot, you'd never of heard of it. The minors drinking is breaking a law, this is just some dude who had a heart attack in his chair and went quietly. That isn't news. At all.

So why put it there? The two aren't even related.

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Secondly, you know how you get an obit? Your family pays for one. You don't just get one when you die. The paper would be 100 pages long. Christ, I'm left wing, and you bleeding hearts are making me ill with your lack of logic.

Duh.

The news isn't that he died--but that he spent 5 hours in the bar and no one noticed. NO ONE. Actually, I take that back--yes, it is news that someone died of natural causes in that bar--instead of in a fight.

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Originally Posted by munchkin13

It is news, maybe not the death of the man as such, it is no big shock as death happens all the time, but it kind of reflects on the staff who were working that night and staff in general, who don't seem to pay attention to their customers.

THANK YOU for figuring out what I'm talking about.

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Um... NOT to give an assumption of things, but then again what do I know, I don't visit bars. I did visit a few times just for whatever reason at the time, but it wasn't to drink since I don't drink myself but to hang out with my friends.

But... maybe its the barkeep's negligence that you're mad at, Lek? What do we know about the man? Would it be odd or NOT so odd if anyone try to bother him? I can imagine him looking all hunched over with his drink and his bottle looking like he's there to "drown" so no one would want to bother him and hear his troubles... If no one noticed him, he must had went in this bar alone. And for what purpose would that be, besides hitting up women, but to drink?

I don't know anything about bars so you may drop whatever I said, but don't people go there to just drown besides being merry? Would you trouble the man by waking him up to his nightmare in front of the alcohol again? That's just how I pictured it if I was to walk into that bar and presuming I saw this said man that is presumed dead on the spot.

Like no one noticed, he probably most likely went there alone to drown into his own sorrows... and if no one noticed, maybe he was seated at the far end of the bar to be "left alone"? That could explain why the barkeep COULD didn't notice.

And yeah its sad... but I think you're taking this too much in consideration to the fact of no one seem to give a damn. Maybe the man did wanted his peace. Even if it ends with alcohol.

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Leonard was a friendly guy. And, to be honest, the way this bar is set up--you can't miss anything.

So, it's not just the staff--but the people who were there, too.

No one noticed that this man never went to the bathroom in 5 hours?

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It seems to be common nowadays for newspapers and news networks to only show the really brutal stuff. They're looking for reads and viewers, and sadly, alot of today's society likes to see the brutal stuff. Someone would be more likely to buy a newspaper if it had that latest bombing, or latest natural phenomena. Something like a guy dying in a bar unnoticed, isn't something they'll make a big deal about. Its something they'd put in a newspaper, because obviously, its something people will read. But they wouldn't see any logical reason to put more emphasis on it rather than a nice big juicy news story.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up.

Well... one thing for sure though, I often hear that when people die, they kinda... piss/shat themselves. So I'm surprised he wasn't found smelling all fresh after 5 hours. :\

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I wouldn't think that they always relieve themselves as they die. It all depends on how peacefully they die. And I guess it also depends on how much waste material he had in him before he went to the bar. If he hadn't eaten most of the day, there would be less chance of him exfeciating himself (is exfeciate the right word?). Mind you however, it is a bar, so he might have been drinking.

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Originally Posted by Leknaat

Leonard was a friendly guy. And, to be honest, the way this bar is set up--you can't miss anything.

So, it's not just the staff--but the people who were there, too.

No one noticed that this man never went to the bathroom in 5 hours?

So when you're at the bar, you notice people getting up and going to the bathroom? You're there with your friends and you spend your time observing the other patrons to see how often they go to the can? Get a fucking grip, Lekky.

It's a bar. If a dude wanted to disappear at a table, he can. It's not that shocking, nor is it some big damn travesty.

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Go to hell, Deni. Yes, I notice people getting up all the time. I tend to sit there and LOOK at people. It's what I do. It's what I've always done. And the bathroom line was a joke.

For Christ's sake, if you don't look around the bar, you never know who is walking towards you, near you, or whatever. The phrase "excuse me" can start a fight because the other person is so drunk that they don't understand you.

So, you tell me to get a fucking grip. Get a fucking clue, and leave me alone.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Leknaat

Yes, I notice people getting up all the time. I tend to sit there and LOOK at people. It's what I do. It's what I've always done. And the bathroom line was a joke.

Hopefully you aren't looking at me when I'm going to the bathroom, creep.

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Originally Posted by Wojo

Hopefully you aren't looking at me when I'm going to the bathroom, creep.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

You know what I mean.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

No offense Leknaat, but I seriously think you gave "Leonard" too much credit to be angry about how no one is giving a damn.

I'm SURE there's dozens of stories like this before that happened and seemed like it wasn't worth a damn.

Like for example... in my hometown, a Hispanic got ran over 5 times. FIVE different HIT & RUN cars ran over him. No huge investigation was launched or anything. He was pretty much dead by the time the first car ran over him. Who fault were they, that first car that did killed him or was he walking and didn't see the car coming? No one knows... shit happens ya know. What's sad is he had no family or anyone to claim him. So he ended up just like a blurb in the newspaper. :\

I know you're feeling sensitive right now about humanity and their apathy toward emotion about such things, its refreshing that you do feel that. We all do on occasion, but ONLY occasionally or otherwise we'd feel let down EVERY time if we continue feeling this way about what we read.

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I give up.

I'm sorry I'm one of these people who thinks its a shame that we're so focused on ourselves that we ignore what's around us.

Sorry, Blah.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Don't ever make posts like that on GFF. It's like a fucking batsignal for the emo lynch committee.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Newspapers and other media outlets have a great thing going on. They throw around the hardcore news, things you need to know, then they throw in the water skiing poodle. It's unnecessary, but you gotta have it to lighten up the mood. Nobody likes bad news, but everybody loves a good story about an ironic death.

It's pretty much this: Here's a story about a bar that broke the law (serious business part). Also here's an interesting story about a bar.(this part ends the serious business with an interesting, and somewhat amusing anecdote. How ironic someone died of natural causes, right?)

Now not only do I know the law is crackin' down on the bar scene, but I'm chuckling on the inside all thanks to that one guy who died in a weird way.

This man's death is some seriously good news all on its own; it's a freebie topic for the water cooler tomorow and you can bet I'll be bringing it up with my mexican coworker who undoubtably could care less but will be thankful that I filled in the akward silences that could have been.

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Originally Posted by Leknaat

I give up.

I'm sorry I'm one of these people who thinks its a shame that we're so focused on ourselves that we ignore what's around us.

Sorry, Blah.

Oh yeah, I'm sure you know the private history of everyone in every bar you've ever gone into. If someone were to sit quietly in a corner and do nothing to draw attention, you'd surely notice them and walk over to say hello because they were so deliberately avoiding being noticed.

This isn't about an emo-lynching, this is about your point being backwards. This isn't a matter of people being selfish about only looking out for themselves, it's about a guy who was quietly in a corner, and so no one noticed when he continued to be quietly in a corner after he died. You want to be left alone about things like this, don't argue a stupid point and act like you have a moral highground because you "care" more.

How ya doing, buddy?