[General Discussion] Titles you just don't get why other people can't get into

I didn't mind The Bouncer too much. My only complaint was that it was too short. Otherwise, the story was mildly interesting during the time I played it. After unlocking all the secrets, I didn't go back to play the game again though.

There are some people I know who can't seem to get into Xenogears. I thought the game was solid during at least the first disc. Of course, I only understood the story a little more after playing through it a second time.

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Advent Rising is the first thing that comes to mind. Of course, I already know half of the answer for why people don't like it, because it got bad press.

The truth is that playing the PC version you don't encounter as many bugs as you would on Xbox, and the few you do are easily overlooked. It's extremely fun for fans of action or shooter games, and plays in some ways similar to P.N. 03. The powers and the combat are by far the best things about the game, and being able to level up weapon skills and powers is what gives it some great replay value.

If the game offered a few more boss battles, or maybe events that offered multiple ways of resolving the situation, then I think this game would have sold a lot more. The fairly linear gameplay it offers as-is still plays great, though.

Ratchet & Clank is a series none of my friends want to try, for fairly obvious reasons of OMG KIDDY, but if they actually took the time to play, I'm sure they'd enjoy it.

A friend of mine absolutely refuses to play anything that even closely resembles Diablo. He likes WoW, but for some reason hack and slash games have never appealed to him, and I can't even get him to try creating a character. *shrug*

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

But back to the thread question thingy, I'll go with poor ol' 1080 Avalanche. I don't get the raaaage. ;_; This game got shit on for not being as deadly serious as the first, but that's not a very good reason to dismiss a sequel. The trick system is better, the tracks have a LOT more going on, the sense of speed is a thousand times better than the originals snails pace. DO NOT UNDERSTAND E-HATE.

Yeah what the fuck? Although I thought the critisism came fromt he fact that it wasn't a broken pile of shit like SSX and that it was too focused on snowboarding and not focused enough on mad barreling over volcanos as a stereotypical character. Cos everyone knows that's what SSX snowboarding is about.
1080° Avalanche is one of the fastest, most exhilerating games on the Gamecube and left the N64 title floundering.

I still don't get why people don't like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. That said all the people who don't like it are dickheads who haven't played it and boycott it because it doesn't conform to their stupid, preconceived, imaginary Donkey Kong universe. Those people are wankers and don't understand anything.

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Originally Posted by RABicle

I still don't get why people don't like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. That said all the people who don't like it are dickheads who haven't played it and boycott it because it doesn't conform to their stupid, preconceived, imaginary Donkey Kong universe. Those people are wankers and don't understand anything.

I knew you were going to say Jungle Beat. Either you or Grubdog would've brought those up sometime soon.

I haven't played it because I've never seen the bongo drums. I usually like music games, but I've not once seen Jungle Beat's drums down here. Plus the last music controller I bought was the ugly Taiko no Tatsujin drum controller which didn't respond unless you abused the hell of it.

Most people don't want to buy non-standard controllers specifically for 1-2 games so that's probably why there wasn't that much attention brought towards it.

Originally Posted by Skexis

The truth is that playing the PC version you don't encounter as many bugs as you would on Xbox, and the few you do are easily overlooked. It's extremely fun for fans of action or shooter games, and plays in some ways similar to P.N. 03. The powers and the combat are by far the best things about the game, and being able to level up weapon skills and powers is what gives it some great replay value.

P.N.03 is a brilliant game. But it only got a 5.3 score on gamespot, and it was generally disregarded by everyone as "a unique game which failed" because it was too short. Personally I felt like it was a good game, and I don't get why there's so much hate for it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Megalixir

Most people don't want to buy non-standard controllers specifically for 1-2 games so that's probably why there wasn't that much attention brought towards it.

Agreed. And those bongos aren't exactly puny either...Still, the DK rhythm game looked like fun (I've seen it on display). The DK 2D platformer looked kind of half-baked.

Same main reason I haven't looked into Beatmania...I have too much space dedicated to two rather large arcade sticks and I try to keep my amount of excess peripherals to a minimum. The DDR pad is the only exception, since I can just sit on it when I play something else.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by RABicle

I still don't get why people don't like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. That said all the people who don't like it are dickheads who haven't played it and boycott it because it doesn't conform to their stupid, preconceived, imaginary Donkey Kong universe. Those people are wankers and don't understand anything.

Ahaha what the hell, that DK Vine site is pretty scary. Apparently Nintendo's ruined Donkey Kong because he's in Mario Golf (Mario and DK in the same game? Unheard of!), and Nintendo don't realize the greatness of the retarded Kong characters like Kiddy Kong and Lanky Kong. ._.

Also I agree with Jungle Beat and P.N.03, they're both pretty rad games. No storyline to worry about, no cutscenes getting in the way, just gameplay GO!

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Points at Goldfish and Elixir.

LOOK AT THEM.

Elixir just called Jungle Beat the MUSIC GAME and Goldfish didn't seem entirely sure but seemed to beleive that "the platformer" was half baked. It's the GREATEST 2d Platformer ever!

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In all fairness...If Megaman 2 or Mario 3 (two games I'm 100% sure are among the greatest platformers ever) used bongos as their primary controllers, I wouldn't have paid them any attention either.

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To my credit, I've never played the game to know if it really is a music game or not.

I might be thinking of another GC title that also uses the drums.

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Well there's Donkey Konga, but Jungle Beat is the Alpha Male of platformers.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I beleive the bongos are integral to the game though. You really feel the rhythm as you play. It's possible to play the game with the controller but that can only be described as "not fun."

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I still think it isn't worth it. A controller for two games and only two games. The same could be said about Guitar Hero, which is a game I can't understand why people like.

But I can perfectly understand the purchase of a beatmania controller. Not the ASC huge ones, but the smaller ones usually issued in japan with a game. Since there's IIDX 3rd - 10th Style, Pop'n Music 7 - 13 and Taiko no Tatsujin 1 - 6 (I think it's 6) on PS2, purchasing the controllers is pretty much justified with the range of games available.

If there was more games playable with the bongos, sure. But there isn't.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, that goes for a lot of peripherals. Lightguns don't get much use these days, no matter how much one insists Crisis Zone is really, really awesome, same for fishing games, etc. Doesn't make the game any less great.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Jungle Beat is the single greatest reason to own a GC, and anyone who has played it and dismissed it obviously has some serious problems. And yes the game loses its heart if played without bongoes.

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You make it sound like the bongos cost extra Elixir. They didn't. The game came with Bongos included for the same price tag as every other new release game. You're not buyin Bongos for two games, you are buying games, they happen to come with bongos, for free.

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Originally Posted by Qwarky

Well, that goes for a lot of peripherals. Lightguns don't get much use these days, no matter how much one insists Crisis Zone is really, really awesome, same for fishing games, etc. Doesn't make the game any less great.

I'm just saying I don't want peripherals shoved in some closet or laying around for a couple of games I might play once or twice every year.

What I'm getting at is, I prefer games that work with the standard controller. Yes, light guns also apply, but you'll probably find people won't be playing their light gun based games half as much as their regular games either.

Originally Posted by RABicle

You make it sound like the bongos cost extra Elixir. They didn't.

I don't know about that. I remember reading a magazine advertising them with and without the bongos, with a price difference.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

My thing with the bongos is 3-fold:

1. I'm skeptical how they work with a 2D platformer.
2. I don't want a near-useless peripheral taking up room. I have enough issues finding space for my regular controllers and arcade sticks (which I use for a lot of different games). Same thing for Beatmania (we only have the 1 released in the US) and most light-gun games (still have the old Zapper).
3. It just smells of Nintendo gimmickery, which should have ended at GBA connectivity.

Those are exactly the reasons I don't get into it and why I understand others wouldn't.

Edit: In all fairness, the game was $50 straight up, bongos included. Unless it was Konga I saw...Bongo-less versions of them tended to be cheaper.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishX

My thing with the bongos is 3-fold:

1. I'm skeptical how they work with a 2D platformer.
2. I don't want a near-useless peripheral taking up room. I have enough issues finding space for my regular controllers and arcade sticks (which I use for a lot of different games). Same thing for Beatmania (we only have the 1 released in the US) and most light-gun games (still have the old Zapper).
3. It just smells of Nintendo gimmickery, which should have ended at GBA connectivity.

Those are exactly the reasons I don't get into it and why I understand others wouldn't.

Edit: In all fairness, the game was $50 straight up, bongos included. Unless it was Konga I saw...Bongo-less versions of them tended to be cheaper.

Maybe you're just horribly jaded and shouldn't be into videogames at all

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

HALO. A great game that yes was very successful however, had HALO been released for Gamecube it likely would have been much better received in general. The dislike those who had for this title seemed to have stemmed more from the fact that it appeared for the Xbox. The game may have had some faults but in the sea that is FPS's, it's a damn fine shooter. HALO is an example where people negatively judge a game based on the console it's released for.

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I've always loved the Tomba! (known as Tombi! in Europe and Australia) games for the Playstation, but they never seemed to be very popular.
They were like platform games with some Zelda elements mixed in.
I've never played anything else quite like it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Zuare

I've always loved the Tomba! (known as Tombi! in Europe and Australia) games for the Playstation, but they never seemed to be very popular.
They were like platform games with some Zelda elements mixed in.
I've never played anything else quite like it.

I don't remember seeing any hate towards Tomba!.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Megalixir

I still think it isn't worth it. A controller for two games and only two games. The same could be said about Guitar Hero, which is a game I can't understand why people like.

Steel Battalion.

Also worth every fucking penny of the 200 I shelled out for it. If the game that requires the controller is that good, shelling out the extra scratch for the required peripheral isn't a bad thing. I've bought all sorts of special controllers for stuff. In many cases, it improves the game SO MUCH that the price point is compeltely justified.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by JackyBoy

HALO. A great game that yes was very successful however, had HALO been released for Gamecube it likely would have been much better received in general. The dislike those who had for this title seemed to have stemmed more from the fact that it appeared for the Xbox. The game may have had some faults but in the sea that is FPS's, it's a damn fine shooter. HALO is an example where people negatively judge a game based on the console it's released for.

Some people have legitimate beefs with HALO, you know. I can't stand the attrocious level design of the second game and the multiplayer, and the first game's recycling of some levels was not something I enjoyed. I actually hate the second one wish a passion, but it sure as shit isn't because it appeared on the Xbox.

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Originally Posted by JackyBoy

HALO.

What? I was pretty sure that this game is generally accepted as one of the best games for the Xbox. I mean, I didn't like it, but at the time I played PC shooters a lot, and I couldn't get used to the controls. I still think FPSs are clunky on consoles, but I can deal. I have to deal. There's Gears of War now.

Anyway, I would have to say Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath seems to be quite an underdog. Although to be honest, a lot of people dismiss this game outright without even trying to get into it, so perhaps it's not the same thing. I can sort of see why someone would be hesitant to play an Oddworld game--I never liked the Oddworld series. But once you start playing this it's instantly clear that this is a completely different game. A graphically gorgeous alien-Western world, with dynamic alternating 1st and 3rd person gameplay, and some of the funniest writing/voice acting of any game, ever. Good stuff.

I also didn't get all the bad reactions to Yoshi Touch&Go. Before I got one, I never would've thought the DS would be any good whatsoever, and this is the game that made me change my mind. I played that game for hours and hours. I'm guessing people just expected a new Yoshi's Island, and were disappointed because of that. I think the game is way fun.

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Tried over and over to get my older brother to appreciate this game as much as I did. It was awesome fun, especially since each dungeon is generated randomly. I could spend hours playing that game and never get tired of it.

also i must be the only one who thinks it is fun to try to play Halo and Halo 2 with the DDR dance pads.

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Originally Posted by Qwarky

Maybe you're just horribly jaded and shouldn't be into videogames at all

Maybe you should actually read what I put before coming to such a stupid conclusion.

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