[News] Ahahaha (lik-sang's CLOSED)

Last time I ordered from them for only regular DVDs, it took almost a month to get them. It took almost the same amouht of time to get my Biohazard Complete Box Best Selection (yeasia was the only remaining store that was still taking preorders on that box). And the box was a little scratched on the top.

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Originally Posted by ApOcaLyPSe_1985

Thanks a lot . I'm curious about Yesasia though, what's wrong with them?

I purchased Sega Ages 2500 Vol 25: Gunstar Treasure Box and Last Blade 2 from them both at once. After asking them if they've had any other people purchase items from their store who lived in New Zealand, I waited. So I sent them another email 5 days later, and I waited.

2 weeks later they contacted me, didn't answer my question, and said "Gunstar Treasure Box is out of stock, do you still want Last Blade 2?" so I cancelled. It's a disappointment because I still don't have these games, but I couldn't be bothered since I didn't know how long they'd take to reach me, after already waiting 2 weeks for an email response.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I can vouch that Yesasia isn't all that bad. I ordered Ouendan from them and the only real holdup in shipping was that I ordered it after Christmas, so they couldn't ship it until sometime after January 1st or so.

But I'm gonna be honest, I only went with Yesasia because they had the cheapest price on Ouendan. Otherwise I'd just go with Play-asia.

Originally Posted by Ronz

HEARD SONY WAS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOLOCAUST DIE SONY

HEARD SONY WAS REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11 (NEVAR FORGET) DIE SONY

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Originally Posted by LESBIANS

I'll be honest. I don't really understand what makes the shipment of PSPs to Europe unlawful. What sort of law is this? What's the basis of Sony's argument, etc and so forth. It's all very confusing.

Europe is Sony Land, and Sony Land can have all sorts of Sony Land Sony Laws! The big one being every resident of Sony Land having to bend over when purchasing a new Sony gaming system.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Jesus christ, fuck Sony.

I got my GP2X from Lik-Sang and was looking at getting a VGA converter for my Dreamcast ('sup progressive-scan) too.

I was already sold on a Wii, but I might buy an Xbox 360 too just to spite those monopolistic cocksuckers.

Oh, wait, the 360 is also made by monopolistic cocksuckers. Why do I hate my life.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Huh, check this out!

I wonder if some sort of a savelik-sang.com site was created by gamers, it'd make any difference. I imagine it'd require A LOT of donations, but hey, this effects hardcore gamers globaly so who knows.

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MOST unfortunate, especially since Lik-Sang is one of the few sites I look up import stuff from too. There's one less site that I can reliably find stuff like Gitaroo Man Live and Taiko no Tatsujin Portable from at prices that weren't overkill. Time to resort to yes-asia.

How ya doing, buddy?

Clearly Sony has some upcoming massive underhanded deal goign on with Play-Asia. Motherfuckers.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by J-Man

Clearly Sony has some upcoming massive underhanded deal goign on with Play-Asia. Motherfuckers.

Wow, that'd just be rubbing salt into the wound. It'd be absolutely hilarious watching the reactions here if something like that happened.

Lik-Sang's gone, it's a shame, but there are alternatives. No need to let the hyperbole monster run wild.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yeah, so we've got Play-Asia, but what the hell keeps them safe from suffering Lik-Sang's fate?

If Sony didn't know about them, they sure as hell ought to by now.

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Originally Posted by Malmer

Yeah, so we've got Play-Asia, but what the hell keeps them safe from suffering Lik-Sang's fate?

If Sony didn't know about them, they sure as hell ought to by now.

Well, from the gist of it, wasn't the reason Lik-Sang closed mainly due to the lawsuits brought by Sony over their importing PSPs to Europe?

If they do the same thing as Lik, then they might get the same book thrown at them. Though I doubt this when unnoticed by them, and they'll likely avoid doing it.

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Like I have already said, play-asia are allowed to sell PSPs because they've signed a deal with Sony agreeing that they won't ship them to europe.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Why is Sony so anal about Europe again? Is it so they can anal rape people there specifically with higher prices or something? What's the deal?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Why is Sony so anal about Europe again? Is it so they can anal rape people there specifically with higher prices or something? What's the deal?

If you find out, please let me know. It might not make me feel any better to know why video games companies treat me as an afterthought, but it would be good to know.

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In short, lik-sang started selling PSPs internationally in November '04, and it wasn't released into europe until many months later. Lik-sang received a lot of business due to people from europe importing the handhelds, and because of the release date, Sony suffered.

So this "not compatible with PS3" concept is basically rubbish. They're just trying to get back at lik-sang for their loss during 04-05.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

So, uh, because Sony had enough PSPs to go around from Japan and USA that could also be sold in Europe and Sony somehow couldn't get PSPs to Europe even though there obviously was some sort of supply if Lik-Sang could get ahold of such a significant amount to upset Sony, this is Lik-Sang's fault how? It's not Lik-Sang's fault that Sony is such a tard at business in Europe.

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Acer, it isn't lik-sang's fault at all.

Sony felt as if lik-sang were undermining the company by allowing people to import PSPs (american and japanese models) to europe. Lik-sang must've made a lot of profit selling PSPs into europe because this isn't the first time Sony have tried to get lik-sang closed down.

In 2002, lik-sang was sued for selling modchips internationally. Their site went offline temporarily and they came back, minus the modchips.

They're really fucking up hard. Shortly after this happened, they recalled a quarter of a million batteries from Sony laptops.

and they knew about it lol

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From bad marketing to bad PR, what will Sony think of next?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Acer, it isn't lik-sang's fault at all.

I'm going to have to highly disagree with this. Sony sent Lik Sang multiple cease and desist letters demanding they stop selling PSP hardware which Sony has the right to do under trademark law. Lik Sang ignored all of these and as a result Sony took legal action against them.

Lik Sang also has a terrible history of shutting down to avoid having to pay out lawsuit fines only to reappear later on. I think Sony is far from a model corporation, but I also hold no respect for Lik Sang as a company either.

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Me thinks Sony should have been busier sending out PSPs to Europe instead of C&Ds to Lik-Sang. Less money wasted I'd say. I mean Sony is getting money through those PSPs Lik-Sang sold somehow. It's not like Lik-Sang stole them in bulk.

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Me thinks Sony should have been busier sending out PSPs to Europe instead of C&Ds to Lik-Sang. Less money wasted I'd say. I mean Sony is getting money through those PSPs Lik-Sang sold somehow. It's not like Lik-Sang stole them in bulk.

Well the issues of parallel importing are a lot more complex than that. I'd rather not go over all of them though since you could construct half a college business course on the subject.

Let's just say trademarks give the right of distribution to the trademark holder for a good reason.

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Sony sent Lik Sang multiple cease and desist letters demanding they stop selling PSP hardware which Sony has the right to do under trademark law. Lik Sang ignored all of these and as a result Sony took legal action against them.

Except lik-sang weren't doing anything wrong in the first place. Are you meaning to say that if I had of been in japan at the time of the release of the PSP, purchased one, came back to europe and sold it, I could be sued because the product isn't released in that country? That's bullshit.

I'm pretty sure lik-sang isn't the only online store that ships or has shipped PSP handhelds to europe.

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Lik Sang also has a terrible history of shutting down to avoid having to pay out lawsuit fines only to reappear later on. I think Sony is far from a model corporation, but I also hold no respect for Lik Sang as a company either.

As far as I know they've only done this once, which was what I already said. They shut down and came back later minus their modchips and continued to sell their products. I'd hardly call this a "terrible history" but actually a really smart move.

They stopped selling modchips, and that's fine. But modchips are questionable, unlike chargers and PSP consoles. The PSP is region free, so does that mean we shouldn't import PSP games from other countries just because they have a different ESRB rating, or because they aren't currently out in your location?

That means that any game which isn't going to be released here/is in a single country, will remain in that company meaning developers and publishers will lose money because of this. Like the lik-sang article said, Sony could do this for anything, including their games, in america or anywhere around the world.

Sony are trying to pull the strings here. At first they want people to support Sony products by buying from retailers, but on the other hand they are preventing people from doing so internationally, meaning that they're going to lose even more profit just by shutting lik-sang down.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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What the hell? That sounds like cutting in on drug deal territory. Sony gunna cap ur ass if you sell another psp in Eurotown. Did Sony even try to cut any deals with Lik-Sang instead of the "we gonna sue ya!" bit?

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They don't negotiate with terrorists, naturally.


It's because even though Europe is one single neglected game market, those geniuses still insist on splitting us into smaller parts and passing the blame onward.

It's because people buy PSPs from Turkey and then expect they can exchange them in the UK for money when they notice two pixels are off. Nordic countries handle their PSPs when it comes to warranty, while they can't handle others, UK handles its own, Spain, etc.

It's because Australia gets kicked in the groin with nearly every matter related to entertainment media.

It's also why you often see "Not to be sold in the UK" on a lot of PAL games, because UK somehow gets a different print, even when the games work everywhere.


How this gives it a proper legal reason to SUE a company for selling PSPs "elsewhere", I've no idea. You could hold it against them if Lik-Sang then didn't take responsibility for dodgy machines, but even then it's not as if Sony should care. Unless there is more to it ::chinstroking::

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I think a lot of you need to first read the basics of parallel importing, what is it, and where it is illegal and why:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_import

Secondly, the generalizations need to stop. First, Sony sued Lik-Sang for importing PSPs specially to the UK not to the entire world. Second, the suit does not cover the concept of games. Importing games that cannot be obtained in your region is not illegal and no legal action has ever been taken by Sony or anyone else in attempts to prevent this.

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