[General Discussion] Games that are supposed to be really bad but you like

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf

Any Rampage game.

Every reviewer loves to give the franchise horrible reviews, claiming they're too repetitive. Well, they're absolutely right, but that's what the fans like about it. It's just too much fun smashing cities and eating people to care whether or not we have to do the same thing for hours on end. It's great being destructive.

I remember seeing Rampage games get low ratings in the past as well. I own two of them, and I thought they were fun. It was the type of game I would enjoy only if I had nothing else to play.

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Originally Posted by Xellos

I'm not entirely sure if it is considered a bad game or not, but I feel I must mention Suikoden III as well.
I honestly don't get why this game is received so badly by so many people... I dare go as far as saying that it's my favorite Suikoden so far. Everything in that game just rubbed me the right way. Characters, Music, Graphics, Story, and of course that you get to see things from multiple perspectives.

I love Suikoden III also. Although i'm a complete RPG fan, I never have the patience to complete them. This was one I finally did beat. Completely for that matter. The characters were awesome, the graphics were great, and the storyline was compelling. I guess that's why I buy the manga for this game. Either way, I only know a couple of my friends that say this game is bad also. I don't see what they mean. I whorred this game to death.

Also, The Gauntlet Series comes to mind.... Particularly Gauntlet Legends. Major sites and magazines gave it crap scores. I loved it personally. It's a great multiplayer game that has a pretty decent level up system, and the fact that you have to work together to unlock different characters and find those tower thingys.

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A lot of the later original Megaman games tend to get a bad rap...I enjoy 5-8 every bit as much as 1-4 (with 7 being my personal favorite). MM8 was a key game for me in deciding to get a Playstation. Also, I have nothing but praise for the often-maligned MMX5, but every X game after that deserves what it gets...

Also, Wild Arms 2...Look past the horrendous graphics and it's a solid character-driven RPG. Not many RPG's have done "traditional" right like WA2 did.

I also feel compelled to mention ET for the Atari 2600...Anyone who believes the mainstream videogame press that this game caused the great crash of 1983 is an idiot because this game was not that terrible (especially compared to all of the other junk available at the time). Yes, you fall into pits, but they're easy to get out of...You HOLD THE BUTTON and move ET out of them once the screen transitions back to the overworld. If you release it too early, you WILL fall back into it. Anyway, it's like an extremely primitive Legend of Zelda, which is pretty cool. Not to mention one of the few Atari 2600 games with an ending.

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I'd agree with you on MMX5, GoldfishX, because it was pretty cool. But X6 was horrendously difficult, and X7 was just...for pity's sake, a bad first-step in taking a 2D series into 3D. But Megaman X8 was good, since it combined the best elements of both 3D design and the 2D movement Megaman was built on.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yeah I liked Castlevania 64, Harmony of Dissonance and Chaos Legion too. They weren't amazing, or great, but they were good games to play which got a lot of undeserved bashings.

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i really liked batman begins and predator:concrete jungle , sonic ryders, shadow the hedgehog but gamespot gave those games an insane score, like 6.5\10, 5.3\10.
believe me, these games were awesome.
with the stealth in batman begins, it really felt like a great batman game along with the gadgets as well.

the sheer alien technology in predator and a 3rd person camera angle, the gore,
and more stealth makes it worthy of a 7.0\10 at least.

and also i think that dbz budokai tenkaichi was also really underrated, it surely deserved an 8.0\10 because of the astonishing graphics and awesome gameplay controls.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishX

I also feel compelled to mention ET for the Atari 2600

Actually, I love that one, too. First videogame I ever played, as well, so I'm a living exception to those journalist ninnies who say it's the sort of thing that would put a stranger off the medium.

As far as Megaman goes, the Legends series doesn't get enough credit. For my money, the only truly terrible games under the MM banner are MM6, X5-7, and everything in the Battle Network series after the second one.

Ape Escape 2 & 3 get dumped on for 'not being as good as the first'. On the other hand, I'd say the first game was raw, and in some parts completely awful, whereas the latter two are completely awesome.

Others? Let's see...Breath of Fire IV, Legend of Legaia, Silhouette Mirage, Sonic Heroes, countless platformers of the 8- and 16-bit generations...I take a lot of other people's rejects under my wing and give 'em a good home.

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legend of dragoon- best RPG i've played. my friends like it but gamespot doesn't.
DBZ Ultimate Battle 22 was pretty lame but at least i had some fun with it

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Originally Posted by SonicPanda

Others? Let's see...Breath of Fire IV, Legend of Legaia, Silhouette Mirage, Sonic Heroes, countless platformers of the 8- and 16-bit generations...I take a lot of other people's rejects under my wing and give 'em a good home.

Ah yes...Sonic Heroes. Slipped my mind how hated that game is. For something with so many flaws (camera, targeting), it sure is a lot of fun. Casino levels FTW.

I was also a fan of Legaia 1 as well...It was a tad slow, but it was definitely a welcome RPG with some difficulty behind it. Even having levels up to speed didn't gaurantee a win against bosses...Climbing that tower with the fog is one of my favorite RPG dungeons.

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I might still have my copy of ET for the Atari 2600 somewhere.

I should dig it out and take a picture.

I'll be cool then, right?

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Ultima IX Ascension kicked ass, I am sorry. Bugs were fixed in the patch like nothing and was a killer game.

Dead to Rights too as Eleo said.

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Many people absolutely hated Unlimited Saga, but I had the tolerance for it, despite how glaringly hard and arguably flawed it was. Stuff like needing the required skills, the slot system, all the weapon maintenance, the board moving aspect, non-linearity, etc. actually made me think it was more challenging than bad. Of course it was still frustrating but I really still liked it, if only for being another SaGa installment.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Postal 2:
Fun game, I guess I have a thing for 'em. I had a blast playing Postal 2 though, it's not like the game mechanics are broken, I just guess that reviewers have a hard time giving it a good score because it's so damn violent. It's just about every "Jack Thomson's" bad dream. Personally, it lays down an intriguing story, not what you would expect from the game if you were to only play a few minutes of it. I also picked up the expansion pack as well, "Apocalypse Weekend", added for a more linear game, but a Resident Evil-esque game play.

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I really like Majora's Mask...although I know a lot of people dont like it so much, I thought it was great once I got the hang of it.

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I can think of two games that really stick out as being ones I enjoyed despite reviews: Breakdown and Monster Hunter

Breakdown was a game that interested me ever since the original E3 trailer was shown. It had a fairly interesting concept (first person hand to hand fighting game), and the presentation looked very nice. Upon playing it, three things impressed me most: the immersion ("seeing the game through the eyes fo your character" is a phrase almost exclusive to Breakdown), the story, and the combat system. While ranged combat was pretty weak, thanks in part to the rather simplistic aiming system, the hand to hand combat was extremely fun once you got into it. The controls are quite tight, you aren't nearly as "floaty" in this game as most first person games are, partially because your movements are dictated by full body awareness. The story really surprised me though, it has by far the best story (and plot twist) of any first person action game. Of course, that isn't saying much since most first person action games have terrible stories, but even on it's own it's a very well-presented plot.

Breakdown did have it's flaws, especially when fighting against multiple enemies and the generic/repetitive nature of some of the environments (although they do come up with a good reason for needing to retrack your steps). Overall though, I thought it's execution was very well done, and it's sad to think that they'll never be able to make the sequel which they seemed to plan for because of the game's poor sales. It has one of the few cliffhanger endings that doesn't make me feel cheated.

Monster Hunter is sort of a love-it-or-hate-it game. The concept is something almost anyone can enjoy (killing big monsters), but it's not a game that's easy to pick up and play. The combat system takes some getting used to, you have to plan and time your swings (or jabs, or shots), or you'll quickly be run over by a rampaging dragon. It certainly has a Diablo-level repetativeness to it, especially since the areas themselves are pretty small. But, it does have a surprising amount of variety when it comes to enemies and environments, and playing online with 3 other people to take down a colossal monster is really enjoyable. Again, the game did have it's flaws, and I can see why many people would hate it, but if you can manage to get into it, there's actually a pretty involving game to be found.

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I've enjoyed every Mega Man game, including X5 - X8 (X6 difficult? I beat the game on Extreme with no-armor X for crying out loud, I thought it was too easy ._.), despite the crap reviews they've gotten recently. Breath of Fire III and IV are also ones I enjoyed a lot.

I saw The Bouncer mentioned earlier. I, too, thought the game was fun abliet short. Once you unlock everyone at their highest ranks it simply becomes a fun multiplayer game.

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I agree with the Rampage games. The N64 and PSone versions got so many stones thrown at them by reviewers. I don't think any of them understood that they're not the type of games you're meant to play non-stop for hours on end. ;__; They're fantastic fun in short bursts, especially with two other people (why didn't World Tour support four players? You so silly Midway).

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster

Many people absolutely hated Unlimited Saga, but I had the tolerance for it, despite how glaringly hard and arguably flawed it was. Stuff like needing the required skills, the slot system, all the weapon maintenance, the board moving aspect, non-linearity, etc. actually made me think it was more challenging than bad.

I've put about 5 hours of my time playing US and after 2 restarts later, I've still yet to beat my first boss. Still, I do like how that game is pretty challenging and learned early on to rely heavily on life protection gear and martial arts to keep my LP at a decent level and save my weapons until boss battles. Still haven't mastered how to use the magic system, but it's still fun and definitely rewarding to figure stuff out as you go along.

Also, Stella Deus didn't seem to be that popular despite what I saw to be a solid combat system and a really good customization system where you can outfit a character with virtually any ability you wanted through fusioning. Definitely a game that RPG mechanic junkies should play (even if the difficulty is ridiculously easy) and those who like story-based RPGs should avoid. I had fun with it though.

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In spite of most people not liking the game (and thus avoiding the second game like the plague, unfortunately), I really enjoyed the first Dark Cloud. For a lunch PS2 title, it was surprisingly well-polished. There was plenty of room for error, what with the free-form creation of cities, but the execution was triple-A. Of course, now I understand that Level-5, the creators, are fantastically and miraculously skilled at what they do.

I adored the Georama system, even if it was simplistic to use and slightly limited in what you could do. I liked the dungeons even if they were a bit long. Item creation was cool, and the multiple characters you could recruit were also pretty cool, since each of them had unique abilities you had to exploit in order to complete certain levels.

I'll throw in a quick nomination for Legaia: Duel Saga. It was ridiculously easy for the most part, and some of the voices made my eye twitch at how bad they came off, but for the most part everything was reasonable. I liked the revamped battle system, and the combos were also really, really cool to watch. All of the attacks flowed together really well, even the ones that looked like they might make you fall over mid-strike.

Other than that, the story was entertaining if not a little cliche`, and the minigames were fun. The casino rocked.

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Mortal Kombat 1,2,3.

I have no idea why I enjoyed them but my brother and I used to just love playing that game.

I enjoyed Sonic Heroes as well because I put up with the bad aspects of the game and got through.

Maybe it was because the World Cup was on at the same time but I loved Mario Soccer when it was at the Nintendo DS Connection tour over here in Melbourne. Why????

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I don't think many people shit on Mario Strikers, though! Any game with;



in it can't be that bad!

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Robotrek: Mostly all people consider that is the worst J-RPG ever but i guess that nobody get that the game is just a comical RPG by Enix/Quintet and nothing to get too serious...

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

I don't think many people shit on Mario Strikers, though! Any game with;



in it can't be that bad!

One of the only arcade sports games (or any type of sports game) that I can play for hours (as long as friends are around).

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Originally Posted by Burp

Robotrek: Mostly all people consider that is the worst J-RPG ever but i guess that nobody get that the game is just a comical RPG by Enix/Quintet and nothing to get too serious...

Damn, I forgot all about Robotrek! I used to play that alot when I got frustrated with FFIII (VI). It's obviously a quirky game, I'm shocked to hear that people are taking it seriously.

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Seven Samurai 20XX. I absolutely adore the game,but the highest this game has been reviewed was 7/10. Even on the mighty Intarwebs it's next to impossible to find somebody who actually played it,let alone liked. Most of the time you get the typical "nvar plyed it but i heard it suxors lol." Everybody and their mom bashed the repetitive combat and blamed the game for being "too easy". I wonder if I was the only one who ever tried playing on a difficulty level other than Normal. =_= The game becomes anything but easy. Consequently,it starts to punish you for simply slashing shit left and right like you did on Normal,forcing you to utilize moves other than the Nitou-Ryu spam and actually look for boss patterns. Also,from the looks of it,nobody even noticed the outstanding voice acting,well-developed storyline and extremely unique design of the world and the characters.

Oh,and then you have the purists throwing hissy fits about how "ohnoes Kurosawa's original vision has been mangled omg!1!!1"

Quite a shame,really. -_-

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