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The Upcoming Marvel Civil War
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Old May 2, 2006, 03:58 PM Local time: May 2, 2006, 01:58 PM #26 of 53
Hey guys, NPR is covering the Marvel Civil War.

you can go listen it here, the audio will be avaliable around 6PM Eastern Time. >.> I missed the later part of the interview. >.>
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5376903

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Old May 2, 2006, 05:40 PM #27 of 53
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A group led by Iron Man embraces the government's demand that they register as living weapons of mass destruction and reveal their secret identities. On the opposing side, Captain America and his allies refuse.
I haven't read that many Captain America comics, so this is probably a very silly question, but why is Captain America going against the American Government instead of Iron Man?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.


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Old May 3, 2006, 06:18 AM #28 of 53
the whole idea of this just sounds kind of.......lame.

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Old May 3, 2006, 05:44 PM #29 of 53
Why is it lame? I think that it's great. It's a much better concept than Infinite Crisis.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 3, 2006, 06:01 PM #30 of 53
Becuase it is. It sounds like the government is making them register their id and some heros agree, and others do not. Why is that a civil war? So becuase they disagree over a piece of legislation, they're going to fight over it?

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Old May 3, 2006, 09:11 PM #31 of 53
Uhh... you obviously don't understand this thing. It's much more than that. It's about an idea, a way of life. The government is going to hunt down those heroes that do not abide by the law using other heroes to do the job.

Just read the first issue, you'll understand. It was a great book btw. The art is amazing and the writing was up there with his Ultimates stuff.

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Old May 4, 2006, 01:46 AM #32 of 53
I'll concede to that. I haven't picked up a new comic in probably over 5 years, though I still check up on what's going on. Is this the book by Joe Mad? He was always one of my favorite artists.

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Old May 4, 2006, 05:10 AM Local time: May 4, 2006, 06:10 PM #33 of 53
The first issue is alright. I wasn't expecting much, so I wasn't disappointed. Storyline-wise it's pretty standard stuff, nothing we haven't been expecting for the last few months. Art-wise it's definitely better than Infinite Crisis, but it all looks too smooth for my liking, like it was airbrushed to death. I dunno. Iron Man v4 has the same feel to it. Some people may like it, some people may not, but it certainly isn't my cup of tea.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old May 4, 2006, 05:29 AM #34 of 53
I love the art. I don't like how Marvel basically told us what was in the issue before it got here though. At least they haven't spoiled the rest of the series yet.

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Old May 5, 2006, 11:26 PM Local time: May 6, 2006, 12:26 PM #35 of 53
It was sort of interesting, yes. But the proposed legislation wasn't as bad as I thought. Vacation pay, a pension, a fed ID... just like SHIELD agents. Methinks they be making mountains out of molehills though.

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Old May 6, 2006, 10:16 PM Local time: May 7, 2006, 11:16 AM #36 of 53
The art rocks. I really adore McNiven's art, although sometimes the faces don't look right. But still, his angles for his panels are great. As for issue #1, I enjoyed the part where Cap busted out of S.H.I.E.L.D.... nobody messes with the Cap.

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but the new BPRD overshadowed this, IMO

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Old May 7, 2006, 12:44 PM #37 of 53
BPRD?

McNiven's art was amazing. I can only imagine what the crazy fights in future issues will look like.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 11, 2006, 04:56 PM #38 of 53
This Civil War seems a bit eerie to me. Through this, I've been able to draw at least five different parallels between the Big Three of Marvel and the First Triumvirate of the Roman Republic. I have to rearrage some traits, like the one dying not being the wealthy one, but it still works. I guess this means Cap dies when the whole thing's over.

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Old May 11, 2006, 07:02 PM #39 of 53
There is no way that Marvel is going to kill Captain America. Well, then again, Millar did say that he wanted the death to be meaningful... maybe you're on to something.

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Old May 11, 2006, 10:04 PM #40 of 53
Keep in mind, Caesar didn't die until after the civil war was over. Though, if Marvel killed Cap, they could continue the parallels and have him become some sort of god. Steve Rogers: God of Democracy.

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Old May 14, 2006, 04:15 AM Local time: May 14, 2006, 03:15 AM #41 of 53
Read Civil War #1 and Infinite Crisis #7 in the same day.

I can definately see which is going to be the winner already. Miller is getting to the point and showing us what we want. He's not bringing in 12536 D-list characters in an effort to jerk off the 4 fanboys that actually give a shit about them.

Also McNiven needs to be on more books now.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old May 15, 2006, 05:16 AM #42 of 53
Millar is just great. I need to read everything that this man has written. He has been on such a good streak lately.

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Old May 15, 2006, 09:31 AM Local time: May 15, 2006, 04:31 PM #43 of 53
You want to read Wanted! that is a good series

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Old May 15, 2006, 03:34 PM #44 of 53
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Millar is just great. I need to read everything that this man has written. He has been on such a good streak lately.
Well, he is if you exlcude the most recent Ult. FF story arc. That made little sense.

I'm not sure about McNiven's art, yet. Maybe it has to grow on me or something. It was just sort of uninspiring for me.

Spoiler:
I believe I've figured out how the FF splits. With The Human Torch having been in a coma, he'll be with Cap just out of anger. Of course, he's already been depicted this way on a Frontline cover. From Civil War #1 is seems that both Reed and Sue are going to take Tony's side. Given the personality of Ben, and his attachment to Torch, I'm going to put him on Cap's side.

For the X-Men, all I know is that Cyke is with Cap and Bishop and Colossus are with Tony. I'm sure further previews will help.


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Old May 16, 2006, 07:09 PM #45 of 53
Originally Posted by Zip
You want to read Wanted! that is a good series
Read it. Loved it.

What did you not like about the recent Ultimate FF stuff? I've loved the book ever since Millar jumped aboard.

Haven't they announced that Reed and Sue were going to be on opposite sides of this thing?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 17, 2006, 05:22 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 06:22 PM #46 of 53
Originally Posted by Acro-nym

Spoiler:
I believe I've figured out how the FF splits. With The Human Torch having been in a coma, he'll be with Cap just out of anger. Of course, he's already been depicted this way on a Frontline cover. From Civil War #1 is seems that both Reed and Sue are going to take Tony's side. Given the personality of Ben, and his attachment to Torch, I'm going to put him on Cap's side.

For the X-Men, all I know is that Cyke is with Cap and Bishop and Colossus are with Tony. I'm sure further previews will help.
Actually,
Spoiler:
I think Sue will split with Reed (Johnny being her little brother). I reckon ol' blue-eyed Ben Grimm is gonna go with Dr. Richards. 'Sides, the drama from having Marvel's first couple go at it is too good to pass up


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Old May 20, 2006, 12:54 PM #47 of 53
Originally Posted by VitaPup
I'll concede to that. I haven't picked up a new comic in probably over 5 years, though I still check up on what's going on. Is this the book by Joe Mad? He was always one of my favorite artists.
MAD is doing Ultimates 3 with Jeph Loeb.

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Old May 20, 2006, 01:13 PM Local time: May 20, 2006, 10:13 AM #48 of 53
Originally Posted by Visavi
I haven't read that many Captain America comics, so this is probably a very silly question, but why is Captain America going against the American Government instead of Iron Man?
Well, Captain America was created as more of a super soldier that would be used to win all wars for the Americans, he figured this out and destroyed the lab he was created in so that no more like him could be made. I could imagine that he would go against the government IF it had something to do with the super soldier idea, as for any other reason, don't tell me, i am about to head over and pick up some comics today...Infinite Crisis and Marvel Civil War. I need some good literature in my life ^_^

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Old May 21, 2006, 05:23 AM Local time: May 21, 2006, 06:23 PM #49 of 53
Captain America won't make it as a super-hero, if he were created today.

Think about it. A scrawny guy gets an injection, and develops secksy muscles. Illegal steroids anyone?

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Old May 21, 2006, 08:17 PM #50 of 53
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
What did you not like about the recent Ultimate FF stuff? I've loved the book ever since Millar jumped aboard.
I wasn't talking about all of his Ult. FF stuff, just the President Thor arc. The time travel within that story was some of the worst time travel storytelling I've ever read. It's kind of hard to put into words without coming off as an angry loon...

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