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Old Sep 26, 2010, 09:05 AM #426 of 618
"oh by the way, this whole series of posts is now useless because I'm interrupting the action that happened three posts ago"
This is basically how we've been doing things, yes. It's the DM's job to go back and fix whatever doesn't make sense in the new immediately-interrupted timeline.

You can always just give Zerg an "if, then" request well in advance but it's hard to be specific enough that it's not going to go off uselessly.

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Old Sep 26, 2010, 09:08 AM Local time: Sep 26, 2010, 10:08 PM #427 of 618
Also, I could have been unfairly jumping the gun by posting before you folks have completed editing your posts to your full satisfaction (I'm an inveterate editor myself). To prevent this, may I request that you mark a finalized post with an emoticon, say, like the savepoint one? ()

A question for Paladin Players. Martyr's Blessing says any melee/ranged attacks that hit your allies hits you instead. Does this necessitate another attack/damage roll, or is this taken literally (you get hit, and thus take the damage the ally would've taken - even if that attack roll would have missed you)?

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Old Sep 26, 2010, 09:47 AM Local time: Sep 26, 2010, 10:47 AM #428 of 618
You can either put in a standing if-then statement (if Cyrus gets hit by any attack that deals more than x damage, I use y power). Alternatively if there aren't too many posts out, we can always rewrite the past. There's only two of you, it's not as confusing as processing edits for five

Though, do note that once you had decided to use Counterstrike guards, you're not able to use Martyr's Blessing until you take another turn. Only one immediate action between turns, not counting opportunity attacks.

Also, I probably goofed by allowing you to use the counterstrike guards on your own turn. You're not supposed to be able to take those on your turn. But, eh, it missed, so I guess that's something to note for next time
I'll take note of the counterstrike guards thing, I just thought it was good for an melee attack that was targeted at me.

Also, I was semi-aware of the fact that I couldn't use both interrupts on my turn, and I probably would have chosen a different chain of events completely if I would have used the Martyr's Blessing. Thanks for reminding me though, I still have to get most of these specific rules down completely, and I honestly wasn't thinking about it when I was posting my turn.

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Also, I could have been unfairly jumping the gun by posting before you folks have completed editing your posts to your full satisfaction (I'm an inveterate editor myself). To prevent this, may I request that you mark a finalized post with an emoticon, say, like the savepoint one? ()

A question for Paladin Players. Martyr's Blessing says any melee/ranged attacks that hit your allies hits you instead. Does this necessitate another attack/damage roll, or is this taken literally (you get hit, and thus take the damage the ally would've taken - even if that attack roll would have missed you)?
I'm pretty sure the Martyr's Blessing switches the damage as it was rolled to the Paladin. Otherwise, they probably would have said "whenever an ally gets hit by an attack, you become the target of the attack instead", or some such thing that would imply a reroll. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old Sep 27, 2010, 02:09 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2010, 03:09 PM #429 of 618
Um, Zerg, did I not get an OA against bugger A when he moved away from me? Or is there something that prevented it? I as because if I did it might influence what I'm going to do on my turn (which I have figured out, but am waiting on your reply to post).

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Old Sep 27, 2010, 06:45 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 07:45 AM #430 of 618
Well, Horrifying Mockery allows the bugbear to shift 3 squares if successful. So nope.

Also: You actually have 2x +1 tokens. Just forgot to update the first post

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Old Sep 27, 2010, 08:07 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2010, 09:07 PM #431 of 618
Well, Horrifying Mockery allows the bugbear to shift 3 squares if successful. So nope.

Also: You actually have 2x +1 tokens. Just forgot to update the first post
Ok, I didn't know that. Are all the monster abilities listed somewhere or are we not supposed to be able to know about their effects unless we use skill checks to figure them out, or some such thing?

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Old Sep 27, 2010, 08:33 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 09:33 AM #432 of 618
Ok, I didn't know that. Are all the monster abilities listed somewhere or are we not supposed to be able to know about their effects unless we use skill checks to figure them out, or some such thing
But I gave the effects on this post.

You can always make a knowledge check (free action - once per type of enemy) to this end. Depending on the monster origin, this can either be a nature, religion, or arcana check. You can get anything from background fluff to the full monster card. See previous example.

Note that the example covers lower-leveled characters. I reserve the right to modify the DCs as necessary

But ehh, you're playing with a DM. I think you're covered on monster knowledge ;-)

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Old Sep 27, 2010, 09:10 PM Local time: Sep 27, 2010, 10:10 PM #433 of 618
Crap I noticed that but completely missed the whole shift thing. Sorry about that. I need to learn to read everything more carefully. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 07:50 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 06:50 PM #434 of 618
Zerg, I think you got it right with martyr's blessing.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 09:12 PM Local time: Sep 29, 2010, 10:12 AM #435 of 618
Thanks.

I'm also assuming that opportunity attacks against targets other than the marker are subject to mark penalties, since they're "attacks that don't include the marker as a target". Which means that Divine Sanction, and not Whirlwind, killed the last minion. Is this corrent?

This mark thing is confusing

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 09:13 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 08:13 PM #436 of 618
I've always DMed it as ANY attack against a target that isn't the one that marked you.

IIRC, though, minions have to be killed by direct damage, no? So no divine sanction can take them down.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 09:21 PM Local time: Sep 29, 2010, 10:21 AM #437 of 618
If I'm remembering correctly (no DMG right now at hand), minions take no damage from a miss. I don't know about (automatic) damage that don't require attack rolls though. Or heck, even auto-hit attacks like Magic Missile.

Gonna check it later.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 09:46 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 10:46 PM #438 of 618
If I'm remembering correctly (no DMG right now at hand), minions take no damage from a miss. I don't know about (automatic) damage that don't require attack rolls though. Or heck, even auto-hit attacks like Magic Missile.

Gonna check it later.
No need, I looked it up for you. The only kinds of attacks that don't kill a minion is when a miss still causes damage. In fact they take no damage from them at all, kill or no.

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Old Sep 28, 2010, 09:54 PM Local time: Sep 28, 2010, 08:54 PM #439 of 618
Ah. A DM of mine must have houseruled the indirect damage thing.

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Old Sep 29, 2010, 09:23 AM Local time: Sep 29, 2010, 10:23 AM #440 of 618
I have another question about my gloves. When I'm using their at-will power, I use strength+2 vs. AC to determine the hit. Does this give me a +5 bonus to hit, or do I also add the +3 half-level modifier and make it +8?

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Old Sep 29, 2010, 11:18 AM #441 of 618
Yeah, always add your half-level bonus to attacks.

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Old Sep 29, 2010, 12:39 PM Local time: Sep 29, 2010, 01:39 PM #442 of 618
Ok, thanks. I thought that maybe special effects like this didn't benefit, but now I know.

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Old Sep 29, 2010, 06:21 PM Local time: Sep 30, 2010, 07:21 AM #443 of 618
You add the level modifier unless the description specifies strength modifier. So yeah, +8 as I've said before.

Note that you'll be taking a -5 penalty due to being blind. That is, if Pang doesn't finish it first.

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Old Oct 1, 2010, 10:10 AM Local time: Oct 1, 2010, 11:10 AM #444 of 618


Quick question: Do I have to actively try and get rid of my blindness even during a short rest, or does it wear off by itself in such cases? I couldn't find the information specified anywhere.

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Old Oct 1, 2010, 02:53 PM #445 of 618
99% sure save-ends effects automatically wear off during a rest, though I can't find the specific rule either.

Zerg, your quick sheet at the top of the thread is a little goofy; Cyrus is wearing cloth armor, not hide.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 1, 2010, 06:15 PM Local time: Oct 2, 2010, 07:15 AM #446 of 618
I'm going to say the effects end immediately after battle. You're going to make saves that have a 55% chance of succeeding every six seconds anyway.

The armor thing's fixed. Pang, I also made a mistake with tracking Cyrus' HP. I neglected to update the 10 damage from the Assassin, and the 5 ongoing at the beginning of your turn. The 2 surges will heal him back to 33/54.

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Old Oct 4, 2010, 08:11 AM #447 of 618
Christ, the only way Team CyRaks is going to survive Day 1 is if battles 3 and 4 are fought against small groups of sleepy old librarians. Palsied old librarians. With rheumatism.

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Old Oct 4, 2010, 08:55 AM #448 of 618
Zerg stop trying to kill off your new players immediately

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Old Oct 4, 2010, 09:00 AM Local time: Oct 4, 2010, 10:00 PM #449 of 618
And here I was thinking I could safely rachet up enemy tactics because we've got a very experienced player here, with characters all optimized and stuff.

Shows how much I know.

So uh, I'm still totally adhering to the same experience point quota system as in the first Arena game. Why's this a seeming curbstomp?

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Old Oct 4, 2010, 10:12 AM Local time: Oct 4, 2010, 11:12 AM #450 of 618
Here I was thinking the encounter was going well, all things considered.

Edit: Yeah, I guess when I look at it while keeping in mind that we have two more fights to go, rheumatismed old librarians sounds about right.

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