[Movie] LOST

I really don't know what to think of the finale.

I mean, the entire episode had a great feel to it. I enjoyed the little things like characters finally connecting the dots and asking the right questions. Then they throw awesome things into the mix such as the foot statue and Henry being in charge of the Others. The end of the hatch was really well done, and if Eko and Locke have died, I'll be upset, but I guess they really did go out in the most dramatic fashion.

But did we need an entire season to get to this point? As other people have said, many of these revelations we guessed long ago. That's fine. But do we have to wait an entire season to find out that the hatch was the cause of the plane crash?

Also, no monster. Not even a fucking reference by Kelvin and it actually came from Charlie, who brought nothing new to it. What the hell? Also, I have enjoyed the Others, but if they are the main focus point next season, I really don't know about that. I have just about had my fill with them.

I guess what bothers me is the ending of the finale. It didn't even feel like I was watching the same show for some reason. Poor ending, and it really gives me a "who gives a shit" kind of attitude for next season, which surprised me until I reflected on the rest of the episode.

Overall, I guess I really did enjoy the finale. But as I look back to season 1 through 2, I really wonder how we got from the first episode to this. It SEEMS as if they know where they are going, but everything is so chaotic now that I simply do not know where the direction of the show can go.

Will they be able to tie in all the loose ends without the answers coming off as forced by the end of the show? I hope so.

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I guess what bothers me the most is that the monster might turn out to be fake or some shit.

If that is the case, then fuck this show.

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Wow, after seeing all that I really regret not consistently watching this show. That is some crazy magnet.
I definately hope they explain that monster thingy.

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Originally Posted by Atomic Duck

I think I heard one of them "por que" which is Spanish,

That definitely wasn't spanish that they were speaking. Though, I caught a few spanish like words like you mentioned. Perhaps it was portugeuse or something that sounds similar?

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I'd like to know where the fuck the hatch door that crashed on the beach came from. We don't really know what turning the key did, but, as it seemed, metal was being pulled in, not pushed out. Then the key turns and shit starts flying at the beach, but that was the only thing expelled?

Henry has me all confused now. I mean, he's the leader but he gets caught? He's their leader but he still stays behind to help Locke?

I'd still like to see more than the Pearl and the Swan.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

- What happened to Desmond, Locke, and Eko?
- What is the status of the hatch?

The odd thing was...I mean, Charlie was down there with Eko when shit started flying around, and we didn't ever see him leave the hatch, just separate from Eko. So Charlie knows what the status of the hatch is and never said and was being very coy with Claire about the whole thing.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

Another question - How did Pen know to look for a god damn electromagnetic anomaly to find Desmond?

She has a lot of money, that makes it easy to find people.

Honestly, I dunno. Perhaps her father is part of the Dharma project, we never really found out why they had a bunch of money.

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Someone has to explain something to me.

When the timer ticks down to zero, what exactly is happening? Is it a giant magnet that turns on or is it electro-magnetic energy that is strengthening and expanding?

Also how does the system set up in the hatch control whatever is going on and how could it stop it just by pressing a button?

Also how did turning the key stop everything? The bright light didn't look like a normal explosion.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

As everything is settling into my brain, I'm much more satisfied than I was before.

I think it's safe to assume that neither Desmond, Eko, nor Locke are dead. Eko and Locke are, hands down, the two best characters on the show. Killing them off would be just plain idiotic. Locke as a character is really complex and amazing, and he has had such a huge arc between the beginning of the season and now. Next season will give us a totally different Locke, that's for sure. I almost choked up when he said "I was wrong" because he looked so distraught and destroyed deep down. He may not be dead, but I'm sure he feels dead at this point.

Eko is a badass in every way. No two ways about it. He can't die because he has potential to develop even further and also say more badass things while carrying his big stick.

With Desmond, I really loved his backstory, and I think he has a TON of room for growth. What I've seen is already better than most of the characters already present on the show, and if you ask me, he will add alot to the already great cast.

If anything, this cliffhanger was leaps and bounds better than last season's because it's a whole bunch of them. The show is going to go in a completely back-asswards direction next season and to be honest, I can't wait. I can only hope that the direction it's heading in is a good one.

Next season will probably have 3 episodes that take place in the same timeframe, similar to how this season started.

1 - Jack, Sawyer, and Kate with the Others
2 - Locke, Desmond, and Eko
3 - Hurley/Sayid/Michael and Walt

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain

Someone has to explain something to me.

When the timer ticks down to zero, what exactly is happening? Is it a giant magnet that turns on or is it electro-magnetic energy that is strengthening and expanding?

Kelvin said that it's a system that safely releases electromag energy that builds up. When it's not pressed, it becomes unstable and exerts the energy outward for the most part. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Also how does the system set up in the hatch control whatever is going on and how could it stop it just by pressing a button?

Don't know. Probably something set up by Dharma.

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Also how did turning the key stop everything? The bright light didn't look like a normal explosion.

The key is the failsafe in case the computer didn't work (Locke smashing the shit out of it).

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I know it's a failsafe, but what do you think it physically does? Blow up the hatch? Completely shut down the electro-magnetism?

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain

I know it's a failsafe, but what do you think it physically does? Blow up the hatch? Completely shut down the electro-magnetism?

Good question... My guess is a mix of both - I'll bet that instead of safely releasing the electromag energy, it just instantly releases it all in a huge burst. That would explain the door flying through the air, and also explain why we didn't hear an earth-shattering explosion.

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Where do you think the electro-magnetism comes from? Put there by Dharma, or produced naturally by the island?

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What a satisfying finale. Mista Eko blowing up shit guaranteed an awesome show. I guess some other things happened in this episode which is a deviation from the season so far, but I liked it. I'm left feeling that enough things were explained [or we are at least given some sort of explanation albeit incomplete], and even more questions raised to make way for next season.

Hopefully another plane is on it s way crashing down. That'd be some crazy shit.

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Originally Posted by nazpyro

Hopefully another plane is on it s way crashing down. That'd be some crazy shit.

I've been predicting that since the beginning of this season. It's only a matter of time

I don't know where the electromagnetism comes from. In time, we'll find out everything, hopefully.

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Does anyone here believe Henry Gale when he said they are the good guys?

I kinda think that maybe next season you start seeing other's flashbacks and a lot more of them.

I was speaking idiomatically.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Although most of you have probably already seen this site, people who desperately want some kind of answer should check out the "Ultimate Theory" in the http://www.4815162342.com/forum/ forums. Although I must admit, the latest episode has already poked some holes into the theory...

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I thought the dramatic elements of the finale were done very well. It was a very enjoyable episode to watch. But. We were promised answers. Nothing at all was answered.

We still don't really know what happens when the button is not pressed. Yes, big magnet, but no repeat of "the incident" to speak of. Once again, things were not allowed to progress to it's worst point. On that same note, the failsafe isn't all too clear either. It's assumed that the whole thing's an explosion, but, come on. There are a few different reasons why that just doesn't make sense.

Was the white light the beginning of another incident or the neutralizing effects of the failsafe? Are the effects of the failsafe permanent, and if so, how?

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain

Where do you think the electro-magnetism comes from? Put there by Dharma, or produced naturally by the island?

I could have sworn I heard someone mention that the electromagnetism was a geologic phenomenon. My thoughts are that maybe Dharma was taking advantage of this geologic condition and built devices to harness and store the magnetic power of the island. It seems like they gave the island a prison feel. A place that cannot be escaped or that it was cut off from the rest of the world. However, after the key is turned, at least from what I interpreted, they showed some signs of the outside world finding the island. Maybe it had something to do with the button and electromagnetic device it controlled?

I thought the finale was pretty good overall. As usual with Lost, more questions than answers. I'd also like to know what the hell happened to the damn monster. It was one of the cooler plot points last season. Did anyone else try and play close attention to the whispering when Jack and co found the tube? The only thing I could definitely make out was "Elizabeth." I think I also heard "Micheal."

Speaking of Elizabeth... what the hell is up with Libby? Does she know everyone in a past life?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Haha, what a finale! I was like "LMAO" when those guys from Syberia showed up.

I expected Michaels and Walts boat to explode or something like that. I pray Locke didn't die, that would be a disaster! I would stop watching this shit then. Other than that, really not bad!

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It seems that the monster has now become an inconvenience/distraction for the writers instead of the main draw to the show.

They definitely pushed it to the back burner so that they can give more time to the Others.

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I'm just glad the hatch is now destroyed. It was bugging me the way everyone was living comfortably with the endless amounts of food, air conditioning, music, laundry, and so on. I hope Season 3 focuses purely on survival; I want to see these guys struggling for food and getting dirty.

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the giant bird? That didn't look like anything that exists now.

"Did that bird just say my name?"

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Originally Posted by rockthepartay

It seems that the monster has now become an inconvenience/distraction for the writers instead of the main draw to the show.

They definitely pushed it to the back burner so that they can give more time to the Others.

I'm actually glad about that. I found the 'Monster' dull as old dishwater...

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the giant bird? That didn't look like anything that exists now.

"Did that bird just say my name?"

I was thinking about that today. That was pretty freaky the way it just squacked "Hurley". Definetely one of the more unnerving moments.
The more time I have to think about that finale the more I like it, which is the opposite of season 1's. There are so many good cliff hangers there.

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Originally Posted by Atomic Duck

I was thinking about that today. That was pretty freaky the way it just squacked "Hurley". Definetely one of the more unnerving moments.

I replayed that part but I still can't hear the bird say his name.

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MY pet theory is that the island is somehow out of phase due to the electromagnetic activity, sort of like the old Philadelphia experiment, but on a larger scale. Thats why no one can leave and no one seems to be able to find the island, except when the electromagentic shield is broken ( "i think I crashed your plane"). Also, when the two guys in the Arctic phone Penelope they say " I think we've found IT"..not found him. Oh well..just something I though up while trying to fall asleep last night. Of course it does nothing to explain Lockes healing, the giant bird, the polar bears, the four toed statue the.........

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You know what I don't get? The bunker was somehow powerful enough to split apart a plane that was 30,000 feet in the air, yet the bunker itself remained in tact. Doesn't Desmond have fillings in his teeth? Wouldn't his teeth have been ripped from his mouth? The whole bunker would have imploded before a plane way up in the sky was suddenly torn in half. Shit, I'd imagine metallic objects from all over the island would have gathered around the bunker.

My theory is that the bunker somehow controls the island's electromagnetic energy; collecting it and discharging it at various intervals. When left unchecked, the island becomes easy to find. The massive white light might have been a huge and sudden discharge of electromagnetic energy. Although I'm not sure.

They could have been less ambiguous as to what happened to the bunker.

Oh, and Desmond could have explained what happens when you don't press the button in the first place?

Jack: Did you ever think this might be some kind of psychological experiment?
Desmond: Maybe, but that one time didn't press the button, metal stuff started flying across the room and weird shit started happening. Then the computer started saying system failure.
Jack: Oh.

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Also, this has to be the coolest thing I've ever read. I like how this season of Lost was just a heavily expanded episode of the Simpsons:

Originally Posted by Another forum

Folks, you don't know the half of it.

TPTB may have lifted the ideas of the stack of pneumatic tubes to nowhere and the whole Hatch explanation from of all places, The Simpsons (or maybe they were just paying tribute).

First the little lift: In 1992's Marge Gets a Job, Marge goes to work for Mr. Burns at the Nuclear Power Plant. There she fills out reports each day and send them up a pneumatic tube where after a lengthy journey they are shunted out into an enormous pile of similar tubes filling up a nearby pond. (Sound familiar?) Oh, and the joke is that beavers are using the tubes instead of logs to build their dam in the pond. On Lost the tubes are just stacked (no beavers), so I guess TPTB made an effort not to lift the entire idea.

Now the big one: The Hatch. In 1995's King Size Homer, Homer purposefully gained weight so he could claim disability and work from home. A work station was set-up in his living room and and his sole purpose was to press a button to allow Mr. Burns' nuclear plant to discharge some radioactive gas. If the button wasn't pressed on a regular basis, the gas would build up and blow and take Springfield with it.

In the end, Homer ditches out on his post to go see a matinee screening of "Honk If You're Horny!" starring Faye Dunaway and Pauly Shore and left one of those nodding water-weight "drinking birds" to do his job for him (damn bird fell asleep on the job).

So with the radioactive gas built to dangerously high levels and ready to blow, Homer must race to the plant and pull the "Tank Manual Shutdown" to avert a Chernobyl. And although he's so fat he can't reach the manual shutdown in time, he accidentally falls in and his girth plugs the vent. Crisis averted.

Now compare that to the Hatch. A button-presser (alternately, Kelvin, Desmond, Locke and Eko instead of Homer) is set-up at a work station (in the Hatch instead of Homer's living room) to regularly push a button so a build-up of electromagnetic energy (instead of nuclear gas) is released -- and if not, the build-up would continue to dangerous levels and cause massive destruction to the surrounding area (at least). When the button wasn't pressed on the Simpsons (because Homer was watching "Honk if You're Horny!", Homer had to hit the "Tank Manual Shutdown" to avert disaster, while on Lost Desmond needed to turn the key to the manual shutdown.

Another coincidence or did we just find TPTB's inspiration for last night's season finale and the reason the plane crashed? Hmnnnn....

I should write a show where each season is an episode of a sitcom but with a lot of filler.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the tube thing. When I saw it yesterday I immediately remembered that Simpsons episode.

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I'm actually glad about that. I found the 'Monster' dull as old dishwater...

When it was the main draw for many fans, I do not think it is so great to forget to write it into the show.

I mean, is it so hard for them to have it rustle the trees and howl every now and then just remind us that it is out there? It doesn't need to be physically present.

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