[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

ok now I'm pissed ... I knew that there's a spear that appear only if you didn't open some chest. I have the official guide and followed it to know which one I should not open... but at one time they said do not open the treasure chest in the southeast corner, there were two chest so I opened the one that wasn't in the corner...now I just found out that it was both chest that you must not open...I'm 6 hours into the game, I know it's not that much but I REALLY don't want to start over, so I'm asking: Is the zodiac spear really worth it? or I should just open all chest from now on and don't even care about the spear.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I thought the spear was worth it. It was the strongest weapon in the game and made the char who I picked to use it the strongest in my party

FELIPE NO

The spear is worth it. It is the first really powerful weapon you can get, and you can get when you're slightly more than half-way through the game.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Looking at the guide, it seems that you can also get it from a treasure chest from Henne Mines Phase Dig 2 (page 268).

Look at the map (page 142), it's the treasure chest N°15. It seems that with the Diamond Armlet equipped you have only 10% chance of getting it. The treasure chest respawn though, so you might be able to get it.

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ok I might try that, because I decided not to start over and open 3 other chest that I wasn't suppose too XD

anyway I had an hard time to get into the game (I have the game since the release >.<) but now that I past the beginning of the game and understand more the gameplay system, I have to say that the game is very enjoyable ^^

but after playing 50h in rogue galaxy, I just hate the "zone" thing XD

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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it seems that you can also get it from a treasure chest from Henne Mines Phase Dig 2 (page 268).

No, you can't. The chances of the chest even appearing there are next to zero, let alone having it contain the spear.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

There is a 1/10 chance that the chest appears.
Then, a 1/100 chance that it has the spear.

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The spear is overrated. Not that it isn't insanely powerful, but, really, you can get by without it. Finding the Ultima Blade in The Pharos sub levels is a much less troublesome and acceptable alternative. Unless your going for complete perfection, don't obsess over it if you missed it.

Or you could go with the Masamune after the Gilgamesh hunt, buffs, and a cat ear hood and combo like mad. Point is, as far as heavy damage dealing end game two handed weapons go, the Zodiac Spear isn't entirely unique.

I was speaking idiomatically.

But it certainly does deal a sufficient amount of damage, which helped a lot for people who were bad at levelling up. It sort of made up for the character with low attack, made it easier to get through the game at that. Of course, I probably could have beat the game without it, it just would have taken longer most likely. I know it certainly did more damage than my other weapons.

How ya doing, buddy?

I find that the best combination for damage, is the Masamune Sword + Masamune gauntlet + Haste + Brave/Faith up + Berserk. I have Masamune equipment + gambits set to Bosch so that he does around 6 to 12 k damage per second, possibly more if I remember correctly. The Masamune Gauntlet paired with the Sword raises the chance of multiple attacks to about 90 percent.

Haste + Berserk is absolutely devastating with this equipment.

FELIPE NO

I was never able to obtain the Masamune. I can't be arsed to level up to 70 for a weapon. (Gilgamesh might be easy, but the monsters on the way aren't)

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

If you've good gambit and strategy, you'll be fine.
I can do it just level 65.
If you want to level up,it's quite easy opponent in Site 6 with 3 Embroidered Tippets(Just soake those bat with oil and cook them).

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Exodus Zexion

I was never able to obtain the Masamune. I can't be arsed to level up to 70 for a weapon. (Gilgamesh might be easy, but the monsters on the way aren't)

Uhh...if you can't beat the monsters on the way to Gilgamesh than you definitely won't be able to beet Gilgamesh. The enemies leading up to him were a breeze...It took me an hour to defeat him. (Gawd that battle tested my patience.) I think my levels were mid 50's.

The game is fine without one of the SUPER weapons. If anything you will just have a slight bit more challenge than someone who goes through the trouble of acquiring the weapons. As Marina above mentions, rely on gambits and maneuvering and you will do fine. The Masamune combo makes the game unbearably easy.

If you do decide to try to get the Masamune...be warned that there will actually be...2 or 3 battles with Gilgamesh. The first and second battle is simple...however Gilgamesh can be stolen from at these times and I believe its in the second battle with him that you will be allowed to steal the Masamune Gauntlet, so don't pass it up! Without the Mas. gaunt, the sword is not nearly as good.

Though, I don't blame you for not wanting to beat him. He surely tested my patience...but damn was it a major rush!

There's nowhere I can't reach.

To the poster above, they're called Genji Gloves, not Masamune gauntlets. Also, to steal different items from Gilgamesh, just steal after every scene where Gilgamesh does something, like taunt you or brandish a new sword. Try and steal all the genji equipment as it's not difficult; it's your only chance to acquire them. To have a much easier time with Gilgamesh, fight him when your character levels are not divisible by 2 and 3; basically have it at a prime number like 53, 59, 61, 67, 71 etc. This is because Gilgamesh frequently casts the status spells Lvl 2 Sleep, Lvl 3 Disable and Lvl 4 Break. Being immune to their effects basically means he's just wasting time casting while you're physically pounding on his sorry ass. And if you're any sane, set your gambits to attack the lowest lvl or lowest max hp enemy so you take out Endiku the hound first. His crushing fangs can randomly instantly kill a hero and he's just a pesky pain in the ass. Gilgamesh will be casting spells nearly half the time, so he's not really a worry until you take out Endiku. Gilgamesh will start comboing a bunch when low hp however. Before that happens, he'll probably put up Perfect Defense, which makes him temporarily immune to both physical and magical damage. And yes, remember to continue stealing from him after each mini cutscene, not including the times when he does a special attack on you.

And yes, Masamune is a really good with genji gloves. In fact it pumps out more dmg than Zodiac Spear at high levels when combos are taken into account, but not quite as good as the Wyrmhero Blade :3. Can't beat its 130 attack rating and a 80% combo rate compared to Masamune's 93 Attack and 40% combo. Bad thing about the Wyrmhero Blade is that you have to beat Yiazmat and Omega Mk II, the two toughest monsters in the game, to get the loot to make it... Also the Wyrmhero Blade IS SLOOOOW as hell, being more than twice as slow as a gun. It's nearly useless if you don't have the hero using it hasted AND berserked. Really, getting it is just for fun and accomplishment's sake. There aren't any monsters that you can't take down in a few hits out there if you already beat Yiazmat, so the blade is really just useless by the time you get it. Always something nice to brag about though XD

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

To the poster above, thanks for the correction and btw good tips on facing Gilgamesh.

The Wyrmhero blade has a 80 percent combo rate? Damn.
What I like about the Masamune blade is the fact that damage is increased greatly by both Faith + Brave. Magic and attack both effect the damage output of the samurai sword. Its not uncommon for the Masamune to do 6K to 9999 damage per hit with the right gambit. Its also very swift. In this case, and because of its speed, its quite a bit more useful than the Wyrm blade. Its a whirling dervish of blading frenzy!

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Though, I don't blame you for not wanting to beat him. He surely tested my patience...but damn was it a major rush!

I just heard so many things about the long battles, the path to him, and the fact it's multiple battles. I just can't be arsed to put that much time into getting a weapon when I already beat the game without it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I have a problem with a hunt
I want to start the nidhogg hunt so i have to speak with Aekom.
But he doesn"t talk about a hunt he just say something like.
"When will the mines open again, i ask. we are the parivir guards to all who work the mines ! If they do not work, we do not eat, bhadra.

And i am all ready in giza plain rains.
And i"ve killed 6 hunts

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

did you check the bill board first? you have to check the hunt first and after you have to go talk to the guy that posted it to accept the hunt

FELIPE NO

thanks it works.


How ya doing, buddy?

Anyone still playing this? I'm supposed to be going to Ridorana, but my attention's been with doing all the hunts that I haven't done, as well as getting as many Espers as I can. My main party is on lvl. 82-83 and I have almost all of the 'ultimate' weapons. I just took on the

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Hell Wyrm

and won, took a while but I just bashed away at him and he eventually keeled over. The only Espers I need to get now without carrying on with the main quest are

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Ultima and Zodiark, I would go get Ultima now but getting to and going through the Great Crystal is a fucking butt-ache. Why can't there be a gate crystal at the entrance to it?

Apart from that, I have nothing else to do. My damage output at the moment is crazy

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Jamma

Anyone still playing this?

Well, I just started playing it because a certain someone told me it was really awesome, and not lame like most other recent FFs. And it totally is, I love the combat system and the voice acting is really good as well. Even the soundtrack, which is by (in my opinion) one of the most overrated videogame composers ever is pretty good.

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I'm not very far into the game yet, I'm at the Yansea desert (not sure if that's the name but it's something like that). I tend to rush through games as fast as I can without levelling up, but in this game it's impossible to play it that way, the boss fights are just too harsh for it. I faced the boss of that desert thing at level 17, and got my ass handed to me in Tupperware jar. Right now I'm just levelling up and chaining on those dwarf guys.

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...I had abandoned this game for a long time to play LoZ:TP...which I abandoned for a long time to play GTA:VCS...which I also abandoned to play GGXX#Reload...but then I finished VCS and TP so now it is time to finish FFXII. I just opened up the rest of that jungle area so I gotta get through. I'm gonna have one hell of a time readjusting to this game >.<

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I recommend abandoning it for Odin Sphere, and then perhaps picking it up again when DQIX is released - you know what to do there

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Originally Posted by surasshu

Well, I just started playing it because a certain someone told me it was really awesome, and not lame like most other recent FFs. And it totally is, I love the combat system and the voice acting is really good as well. Even the soundtrack, which is by (in my opinion) one of the most overrated videogame composers ever is pretty good.

Well you sure have a high opinion of it! Nothing wrong with that though, it's an enjoyable enough game. I'm just being a touch bitter because I'm in the middle of the lull in the story...

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I'm not very far into the game yet, I'm at the Yansea desert (not sure if that's the name but it's something like that). I tend to rush through games as fast as I can without levelling up, but in this game it's impossible to play it that way, the boss fights are just too harsh for it. I faced the boss of that desert thing at level 17, and got my ass handed to me in Tupperware jar. Right now I'm just levelling up and chaining on those dwarf guys.

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Level 17?! Damn mate, you really do need to boost your levels! Did you get a Burning Bow from the Dive Talons in the Westersand? Or made a Fransisca from loot found in the Garamsythe Waterway? It would've made life a bit easier!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Jamma

Well you sure have a high opinion of it! Nothing wrong with that though, it's an enjoyable enough game. I'm just being a touch bitter because I'm in the middle of the lull in the story...

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Level 17?! Damn mate, you really do need to boost your levels! Did you get a Burning Bow from the Dive Talons in the Westersand? Or made a Fransisca from loot found in the Garamsythe Waterway? It would've made life a bit easier!

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Nah, I did none of those things. It's just not my style to hang around unless I absolutely have to, and I never look anything up in FAQs either, so I just die a lot.

I have to agree that the story of FFXII is pretty weak, probably the weakest part of the game. But then I expect that from the team who made FFT, I don't think they ever made a game with a story that I found worthwhile. I do enjoy most the characters though so that's at least a step up from FF8 and 9.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?