[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

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I'm not in the Pharos now, I'm still chaining Helvinek, but that's an awesome idea. They're the same genus, so it'd work. The only problem is that there's like 4 in all of the Highwaste. Maybe going in and out of the campsite will do it?

Sure does work. Like you said, they are the same genus, therefore are related to Tower.

1st) There are 2 Clay Golems near some shrine in Rays of Ashen Light (you might want to solo this with a person with Float and 1 Gysahl Green). Kill them and do NOT pick up their loot.

2nd.)This is important: (Zone from Rays of Ashen Light to Trail of Sky-flung Stone to Northern Skirts and back to where the golems are; Rays of Ashen Light area. Do NOT go back to campsite, Babbling Vale. If you do, I think the chain will break but I'm not sure.)

If you can't go from Rays of Ashen Light to Trail of Sky-flung Stone it's probably because a rock is blocking the path. To make the path appear, knock down the rock to the south of the Northern Skirts zone entrance

3rd.) Once you have your chain at max., ride the chocobo at Rays of Ashen Light all the way through Salikawood to Phon Coast, Kaukula Pass to board the Strahl to Ridorana Cataract. (Do NOTuse Teleport stone to Pharos)

4th.) FLEE all the way to Pharos and then find Tower without killing anything but Tower. By then, you'll have reached Tower with a chain level at Max.

Still very time consuming method.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I found the weapon guide on gamefaq very useful. But is there an armor/accessory guide?

Today i stopped autoleveling, and went to necrol of nabudis. I really used to believe it was the Stilshrine of Miriam, dunno why ^^. I got the spear, the dark dunno what from the other chests (with diamond armlet), and 3 maximiliams. Do maximiliams hat exist? If not, what shoul my party wear as hat?
And how do i open those doors, especially the one for the shop?
My guide also says that i can find hastega in shout bank village, i went there, but the shop only sold weapons (only the gold axe), and accessories (i bought there the diamond armlet). So, how am i supposed to get hastega?
Is there any good guide for sidequests too? Shotgunnova's one sidequest is really good.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Lionking-Cyan

My guide also says that i can find hastega in shout bank village, i went there, but the shop only sold weapons (only the gold axe), and accessories (i bought there the diamond armlet). So, how am i supposed to get hastega?
Is there any good guide for sidequests too? Shotgunnova's one sidequest is really good.

Lionking-Cyan

Spoiler:

Hastega is bought at Dalmasca Estersand, South Bank Village AFTER Reddas dies I believe

Metal Sphere

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Larvae Eater's is absolutely insane. That zoning from not one, two, but three maps?

I'm so sorry if I've said that. What I mean is once you've gotten Larva Eater to spawn and killed it at Waystone XIV, you zone two spaces back (definetely not three sorry) all the way to Leo Gate I in order to reset the spawn. After that, you go back to Waystone XIV area and keep zoning from that area to Leo Gate Switch area.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

What if the Reapers pop? It just seems like even more of a hassle that may not even net you the desired results.

I wasn't intending to gain a chain on Larva Eater so I killed every Reaper that spawned in Waystone XIV when Larva Eater was there. If the Reapers come out anyway, just get them to HP Critical status and wait for them to do Dimensional Rift although preserving the chain by doing so is really time consuming.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

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Heh, good luck. I wouldn't restart the game for a spear, especially not after everything I've done.

Well I wouldn't say that I would be playing just to get the Z. Spear. A lot of my friends are just starting to play now and asking me for advice and such and telling me where they are in the game now. Hearing all of this makes me miss some of the story line that took place earlier in the game so I think maybe a replay will be in order. I still have a lot to do with this current game though so that won't be happening for some time now.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Hey guys, about opening the path from the Feywood into Henne Mines: do you have to open the gate from inside the mines (travel from the Henne Mines gate crystal) or open it from the Feywood side? I have beaten Zodiark.

Metal Sphere: I too am going for the Z. Spear in the Henne Mines, the chest itself definitely exists. I got an Elixir from it the one time I've seen it.

Also approximately how long does the entire rare game sidequest take? I might start that tonight (done everything else but the bestiary)

Thanks.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by SunGod

Hey guys, about opening the path from the Feywood into Henne Mines: do you have to open the gate from inside the mines (travel from the Henne Mines gate crystal) or open it from the Feywood side? I have beaten Zodiark.

Yeah, you have to open it from within the mine (the Pithead Junction C map with the horde of Abysteel. After you do that, you can't simply go directly south, you have to do a little rounadabout route, but it lets you exit via the Feywood once you do this.

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Metal Sphere: I too am going for the Z. Spear in the Henne Mines, the chest itself definitely exists. I got an Elixir from it the one time I've seen it.

Good to hear, as I'm trying for it myself. After I get the Yagyu and some armor. I paused the game while chaining the Helvineks.

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Also approximately how long does the entire rare game sidequest take? I might start that tonight (done everything else but the bestiary)

Thanks.

Not very long, the most time consuming parts are either the running around to get to each area or creating the conditions needed for the monster to spawn.

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Well I wouldn't say that I would be playing just to get the Z. Spear. A lot of my friends are just starting to play now and asking me for advice and such and telling me where they are in the game now. Hearing all of this makes me miss some of the story line that took place earlier in the game so I think maybe a replay will be in order. I still have a lot to do with this current game though so that won't be happening for some time now.

Ah, I see now. The game itself really isn't long at all, as you can zip through it with relative ease. You'd be back to where you were in no time, might even set a record for completion under a certain amount of time.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Just beat the esper from the Pharos subterra (don't know the name) and was like "damn I just spent my last two megalixirs", just to find out that part of my reward was two megalixirs. So I guess I am even again

FELIPE NO

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Well since i don't have all that much left to do I suppose I wouldn't mind going on some more rare-loot hunts. I can't see it being any more infuriating then some of the loot needed to acquire the Torunsol! Even though it was well worth it obviously, I would still like the most powerful bow in the game. So I suppose I will just look at it as another challenge to overcome. Even if it is a frustrating loot to find this is one game in which I would be willing to spend all of the time to find the neccessary items! (BTW I just crossed the 135 hour mark!, the most I have put into a game in quite some time). The sad thing is, well I don't and am sure many people don't find it to be so, is that I am seriously contemplating starting the game over. One reason is so I can utilize Fran (there is just something about those ears huh? lol), and the second reason being getting the Zodiac Spear, which I missed due to the whole treasure chest fiasco. So we shall see. For now I think I will just level up and go hate-fuck Zodiark, god willing, as well as my secondary party haha

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did you know that you can get the zodiac spear in henne mines but you have to "live" there in order to make it apear.... I tried it but I got REALLY bored mind you I was WAY ahead in the game level wise lol . im playing the english ver cos I missing sagitaria and this spear I wanna complete it 100% if I can

the game is good fun!

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Metal Sphere: I too am going for the Z. Spear in the Henne Mines, the chest itself definitely exists. I got an Elixir from it the one time I've seen it.

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I posted the video of some random chinesse player that got the Strongest halberd from henne AND doing the chest thingy .. Ill try to find it again that was AGES ago I dont know if is in this thread.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Saga

I posted the video of some random chinesse player that got the Strongest halberd from henne AND doing the chest thingy .. Ill try to find it again that was AGES ago I dont know if is in this thread.

OMG! Are you serious?! If that's possible, then maybe the Brave Suit is actually possible to get.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

*groans* I got this mark where I got to find these two brats in the Lushus Mines and the monsters further down are tough but I manage killed them.....still I'm lvling up my weaker party : Ashe , Balthier and Penelo by killing Silicon Turtlles during the Rains and I finally got the Nihopalaoa item....

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

OMG! Are you serious?! If that's possible, then maybe the Brave Suit is actually possible to get.

He should really post that video, along with whatever commentary goes with it (like how long it took him). Surely it's easier than getting the fucking Danjuro, which seems to either drop whenever the hell it wants, with no rhyme or reason to it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Have you tried the method I posted for the Danjuro Metal Sphere?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

He should really post that video, along with whatever commentary goes with it (like how long it took him). Surely it's easier than getting the fucking Danjuro, which seems to either drop whenever the hell it wants, with no rhyme or reason to it.

did any of you play yhe Jap version at all? the zodiac spears original name was Strongest Halberd or some shait like that - we're talking back in may - june time I remember posting 2 maps and 1 video of how the guy got the "zodiac spear" from those 16 chest in nabudis + henne .

I found One pic and one of the videos





here one of the video for nabudis I cant find the one for henne and I dont think the link is still working... anyway http://www.geocities.jp/mako2lafih/saikyouhoko.zip

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ヘネ魔石鉱

　※ダイヤの腕輪の装備が必要です
　※低確率なため、個人差はありますがかなりの時間が必要です

①リセット＆ロード手順
　レベル上げは不要、またはゾディアークをまだ倒していない人向け

作業準備抗で補助魔法をかけてダイヤの腕輪を装備してセーブする。
補助魔法はバブル・プロテス・レビテガ・リジェネがよい。メンバーはリーダー1人でよい。
作業準備抗→分別作業場→第2期採掘現場とエスケープで進みトレジャーを確認する。
トレジャーが無いか別のトレジャーだったらリセットしてロードを繰り返す。
レベル上げもしたい場合は、アビスでチェインしよう。区間連結ラインB⇔第2期採掘現場を往復 する。


②特殊作業場を利用した3AC手順
　ゾディアーク討伐済で、ローブオブロード等も入手してレベルも上げたい人向け

特殊採掘抗にある欲しいアイテムのトレジャーと第2期採掘現場にある矛トレジャーを往復する。
ルートは、第2期採掘現場⇔区間連結ラインC⇔特殊作業場⇔特殊採掘抗と3エリアチェンジ。
効率UPのため「区間連結ラインC」はエスケープで進もう。

[img]http://hocolamogg.com/map/hene_map.jpg[img]

Additional Spam:
I fund a new thingy . IN HERE they tell you what to do and when the Zodiac Spear will show up in henne

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青い点のトレジャーが本命とされている場所です。
ちなみにこのトレジャー自体はたしかにレアポップっぽく
１０回リセットして１回出るか出ないかですかね・・・。
ちなみに現段階で拾えた物は6000Ｇぐらいｘ2とエリクサー・・・

で黄色い点と緑色の点のトレジャーは何かと言いますと、
セーブポイントから目標の青い点の途中にあるトレジャーなのですが
何度かこの辺を走り回っているときに法則を発見(・∀・)
黄色い点と緑色の点にあるトレジャーがポップしている場合は
100％（私的には）本命の青い点のトレジャーはポップしません。
なので黄色か緑色にトレジャーがあったら即リセットｗｗ
少しでも時間の節約になるかなと。

ちなみに黄色い点と緑色の点のトレジャーがなかったからといって
本命の青い点のトレジャーが出るわけではないのがヤラシスギ('A`)

マジで本命の青い点のトレジャーを出すだけでも大変なのに
そこからさらに抽選で最強の矛を引くのってダル過ぎだろこれｗ
さらにガセ情報だったら一番萎える・・・。
まーもうちょい頑張ってみますよ(；´Д`)

あーあと黄色い点と緑色の点にはラストエリクサーが高確率で出るので
これから強敵に挑む人には拾っといても損はないかも。

追記：３０分後
普通に青い点のトレジャーもランダムみたいｗｗ
緑色と黄色のトレジャーの有無に関わらず発見しました・・・。
さっきまでの５０回以上の統計はなんだったんだーーーただの偶然かいな(ﾉ∀

Any Japanesse in the house lol

ANOTHER JAp got excited and post it GET in english lol :

ヘネウォーカーになって、お宝GET！


【リセット方法】
・作業準備抗でセーブ
・作業準備抗→分別作業場→第2期採掘現場へ
・トレジャーを確認
・トレジャーが無い or 別のトレジャーだったらリセット


【３エリアチェンジ方法】
・作業準備抗でセーブ
・作業準備抗→分別作業場→第2期採掘現場へ
・トレジャーを確認
・トレジャーが無い or 別のトレジャーだったら3AC

（第2期採掘現場⇔区間連結ラインC⇔特殊作業場⇔特殊採掘抗）



right im off to bed! see you all tomorrow

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Saga

did any of you play yhe Jap version at all? the zodiac spears original name was Strongest Halberd or some shait like that - we're talking back in may - june time I remember posting 2 maps and 1 video of how the guy got the "zodiac spear" from those 16 chest in nabudis + henne .

Wait the fuck up. If I'm reading that image with the multiple colored lines correctly, it's saying that if those two chests appear, the Zodiac Spear will be in the chest (or the chest will appear)?

BTW, the name of the Zodiac Spear is... the Zodiac Spear. I doubt we're going to start calling it the Strongest Halberd, unless we go on from there:

Strongest Greatsword
Strongest Sword

It sounds hokey, too.



What the... aside from a general listing of all the chest locations in Henne, this isn't much use to anyone.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Have you tried the method I posted for the Danjuro Metal Sphere?

I read it, but haven't tried it. Looked online for more and found out that it's essentially Karchy's method from Gamespot. The problem is, the results vary far too much. Some people get it on the 4th's LE, some don't get it at all even after chaining 80 LEs.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Took care of Exodus like what. Also reached the 100 hour mark. I think I'm going to do some fishing now, since there's not much else to work on. Hunts are done, except Gilgamesh, and I haven't joined the hunt club yet. I might want to take on the Earth Tyrant, but I'll have to fight and steal from the elementals in the Westersand first.

FELIPE NO

Nice post Saga. We need someone to translate it all!

Any idea why http://www.chopman.com/maniatrix/ff12/image/hene.jpg only shows some of the treasure chests? I notice three of them have additional writing, one of which is the treasure obtained by reading the notes left by a miner.

I can only hope that there is a surefire way to obtaining the Zodiac Spear from the Mines. I don't feel like running to the treasure chest spawn site 1000 times.

How ya doing, buddy?

In the Jap version and USA version, I hear that there is a hand weapon that have 255 strengths. Is it right or only a false rumors.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by heero_yud

In the Jap version and USA version, I hear that there is a hand weapon that have 255 strengths. Is it right or only a false rumors.

As nice as that would be the stongest weapon in the game is infact the Zodiac Spear. If it did exist there isn't a spot for it on the liscense board which would effectively render that weapon useless other then admiring the fact you had it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

As nice as that would be the stongest weapon in the game is infact the Zodiac Spear. If it did exist there isn't a spot for it on the liscense board which would effectively render that weapon useless other then admiring the fact you had it.

While I agree that this is likely a baseless rumor, the Wyrmhero Blade isn't on the license board either. But if we go by the only thing that isn't on there, this mythical weapon will likely be a piece of crap.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

While I agree that this is likely a baseless rumor, the Wyrmhero Blade isn't on the license board either. But if we go by the only thing that isn't on there, this mythical weapon will likely be a piece of crap.

Holy shit that completley slipped my mind. I remember noticing that when I was just randomly completing everyones boards awhile back and I didn't remember seeing it but forgot to bring it up. I wonder why they didn't put it on the board since it seems to be one of the toughest weapons to acquire, just becuase of the length and overall difficulty of the two fights.

Metal, didn't you say awhile back you found a way to negate the speed or something from the Wyrmhero? Maybe I am mistaken and you just said you were testing something out.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

Holy shit that completley slipped my mind. I remember noticing that when I was just randomly completing everyones boards awhile back and I didn't remember seeing it but forgot to bring it up. I wonder why they didn't put it on the board since it seems to be one of the toughest weapons to acquire, just becuase of the length and overall difficulty of the two fights.

Well, if you were able to defeat Omega and Yiazmat, the assumption is that you probably have access to most (if not all) the licenses in the game. IMO, they should've made a uber-weapon for each type, and rendered the current ultimates as semi-rares. That way they could put more optional challenge bosses in, maybe add like 10-20 hours more of dialogue for this sidequest/extra stuff and really make the game shine.

Though I can see why you'd be surprised at it's absence on the board. Imagine if you still had a level 5 character with the blade, since there's essentially no restriction on who can use it.

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Metal, didn't you say awhile back you found a way to negate the speed or something from the Wyrmhero? Maybe I am mistaken and you just said you were testing something out.

Yeah, normally the Wyrmhero Blade is abysmally slow. However, if you Haste+Berserk the person who has it equipped, it gets considerably faster. In fact, it becomes viable for combat at that point because:

• The equipped character automatically gains Faith+Bravery
• The equipped character gains 50 evasion, similar to equipping a Zodiac Escutcheon.
• Haste throws on a layer of speed to negate the crippling speed
• Berserk's power boost + the nearly doubled action speed improves it further
• It combos very often. It's rarer to see single strikes from it than multiples

I wish I had the Genji Gloves, but it's more than likely that this thing would combo ridiculously. With Berserk+Bravery on, even enemies with layers of defense would still eat 9,999. You should see how it reacts when an enemy tries to parry (Baknamy, Elvorets, various Skeletons) , it simply keeps swinging until it kills them. If I'm not mistaken, Berserk also increases the likelihood of combos, though I'd have to find out for sure.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Wait the fuck up. If I'm reading that image with the multiple colored lines correctly, it's saying that if those two chests appear, the Zodiac Spear will be in the chest (or the chest will appear)?

yes - I manage to get the chest where the spear is supossed to be but I got 6000 money thing and according to the faqs I need to spend more time to get it in the 3rd turn. it is indeed a pain in the ass...

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I can only hope that there is a surefire way to obtaining the Zodiac Spear from the Mines. I don't feel like running to the treasure chest spawn site 1000 times.

been there done that lol but not much luck I will keep looking for more "info" about this later on - off to work ( on saturday :/ )

oh btw im on still of miriam

Most amazing jew boots

Even once you've gotten the chest with the Zodiac Spear in Henne and start yelling out loud jumping for joy (to yourself since no one else gives a shit) you'll most likely realize how much time you've wasted in your life trying to get that spear. Oh well

FELIPE NO

Yuyu_Zeta: Yeah I've been thinking like that haha. It's something I might do after I've completed everything else and while I'm waiting for the next Final Fantasy heh.

Metal Sphere: Yeah my Level 9 Balthier has the Wyrmhero Blade at the moment, going to start levelling him up soon haha.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Even once you've gotten the chest with the Zodiac Spear in Henne and start yelling out loud jumping for joy (to yourself since no one else gives a shit) you'll most likely realize how much time you've wasted in your life trying to get that spear. Oh well

ah! but Ill be one of those who actually finished the game at 100% which is something that I like to do if I can.

Jam it back in, in the dark.