[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Where is the best place to search for Brave Suit? I've literally tried to search for them in Henne Mines for about a day but haven't gotten any luck. In Great Crystal, the treasure chest doesn't even seem to spawn there anymore even though I never got a Brave Suit in there.

And what is the percentage rate that a Brave Suit will appear in each of these places.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

I killed every enemy I came across...

Anyway, I came in from the northeast side of the diagonal span.

Damn, that's it? I'll give it a shot.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Where is the best place to search for Brave Suit? I've literally tried to search for them in Henne Mines for about a day but haven't gotten any luck. In Great Crystal, the treasure chest doesn't even seem to spawn there anymore even though I never got a Brave Suit in there.

And what is the percentage rate that a Brave Suit will appear in each of these places.

The one in the Great Crystal is there if you haven't gotten a Brave Suit there (low spawn rate for the chest). I suggest you try the one in Henne, because if you get the suit in the Great Crystal chest, you miss out on the rarer (and better) item permanently, in that location. Luckily the one in Henne is pretty close and easy to do the zoning technique to get it to respawn.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

I suggest you try the one in Henne, because if you get the suit in the Great Crystal chest, you miss out on the rarer (and better) item permanently, in that location. Luckily the one in Henne is pretty close and easy to do the zoning technique to get it to respawn.

ARE YOU SERIOUS! This is the exact location that I have spent the past 20 hours trying to get the chest to appear while dogding those fucking abysteel and their goddamn leech shit. This place is hell.

If you are talking about getting a Zodiac Eschuctheon I already have one and I think one is enough, but the problem is even after I got the shield in the Great Crystal, I've yet to see another chest reappear from where I got it. And in the Henne Mines near the Teleport Crystal, the chest only gives me either ton of gil or Knot of Rust always. And I equipped the Diamond Armlet too, still no luck. This shit is harder to get than any other weapon in the game.

Do you need the Diamond Armlet equipped and also if a chest doesn't appear, how many zones do you need to go back? And where did you get your Brave Suit Metal Sphere?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

ARE YOU SERIOUS! This is the exact location that I have spent the past 20 hours trying to get the chest to appear while dogding those fucking abysteel and their goddamn leech shit. This place is hell.

You got that right. Yes, the only chests where you can get the Brave Suit are in the Great Crystal and Henne. That's it. Sucks ass? Yes, so does the Yagyu Darkblade, Danjuro and Zodiac Spear being near-impossible to get easily.

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If you are talking about getting a Zodiac Eschuctheon I already have one and I think one is enough, but the problem is even after I got the shield in the Great Crystal, I've yet to see another chest reappear from where I got it. And in the Henne Mines near the Teleport Crystal, the chest only gives me either ton of gil or Knot of Rust always. And I equipped the Diamond Armlet too, still no luck. This shit is harder to get than any other weapon in the game.

If you think one Z. Escutcheon is enough, just hit up the chest in the Great Crystal. When it shows up and you have the Diamond Armlet equipped, it makes it 50/50 whether you'll get the shield or the suit. That's far more reliable than the chest in Henne which appears whenever the hell it wants to, and offers up the suit rarely when it does. Still not harder to obtain than a dagger with a 1% drop rate or a spear with a .01% chance of getting it.

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Do you need the Diamond Armlet equipped and also if a chest doesn't appear, how many zones do you need to go back? And where did you get your Brave Suit Metal Sphere?

3 zones to respawn/shuffle chests. What I do is, I got to look. If it's not there, I run back past the crystal into the map just before it, and then run back to the chest. That constitutes three maps, the problem is the damn ches not appearing. BTW, I got my Brave Suit, literally, as I was just casually moving through the mine towards the Special Charter Dig.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Still not harder to obtain than a dagger with a 1% drop rate or a spear with a .01% chance of getting it.

When you say the 1% drop rate you are referring to the Danjuro right? Wasn't there a method to get it like the Helvinek/Bombshell glicth? Keep zoning back and forth for like 15-20 min. right and eventually he will appear.

But for the Zodiac Spear, I thought that once you open specific treasure chests there is no way in hell to get it anymore cause .01% = almost impossible.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

When you say the 1% drop rate you are referring to the Danjuro right? Wasn't there a method to get it like the Helvinek/Bombshell glicth? Keep zoning back and forth for like 15-20 min. right and eventually he will appear.

Wait... wait, what!? Helvinek/Bombshell glitch? I haven't even heard of any of those, care to explain? Danjuro's dropped by Larvae Eater which you can force a spawn of if you make a chain of 255 Necrophobes and then head to one of 3 platforms. Other than that, I've only caught him near the XVII waystone randomly.

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But for the Zodiac Spear, I thought that once you open specific treasure chests there is no way in hell to get it anymore cause .01% = almost impossible.

Yeah, basically if you screwed up with the chests, you have a pathetically low chance of ever getting the spear from said chest. Shit, I've never even heard of anyone successfully snagging one from it either.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Took on Zeromus, pretty easy guy. What surprised me though is that for quickenings to work well, you should at least have all your guys with one bar of quickening juice, because I found many times (3 to be exact) that I couldn't seem to chain anymore than the initial chain. I guess I press the R2 too rapidly, and then miss out on the potential strikes by the other 2 friends. Next up is Exodus. I had 30 remedies, but those helped out a lot, as well as the antidotes. 60 X potions was more than enough for this fight. The skeletons themselves did like 50 damage on my team, tis only a scratch. The only thing I didn't like about Zeromus was his major gravity attack that did about 3500 damage. =/

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Spatula

Took on Zeromus, pretty easy guy. What surprised me though is that for quickenings to work well, you should at least have all your guys with one bar of quickening juice, because I found many times (3 to be exact) that I couldn't seem to chain anymore than the initial chain. I guess I press the R2 too rapidly, and then miss out on the potential strikes by the other 2 friends. Next up is Exodus. I had 30 remedies, but those helped out a lot, as well as the antidotes. 60 X potions was more than enough for this fight. The skeletons themselves did like 50 damage on my team, tis only a scratch. [B]The only thing I didn't like about Zeromus was his major gravity attack that did about 3500 damage. =/[B]

Well, his whole schtick is HP-based attacks/magic. That's really the only thing you should watch out for, though at lower levels the Dark Lords are problematic. There was this guide on GameFAQs I read a few weeks ago that had a real nice way to maximize your quickening chain:

1. Start off with the lowest level quickening.
2. When presented with choices, always choose the Mist Charge option above all.
3. When no Charge option is available, choose the lowest level quickening.

Following this, I've gone up to 19 hits in a chain, obviously ending in Black Hole because by then you've likely more than met the requirements for it (and it takes priority, no less).

Edit: WTF! Damn, if only I'd known about this when I was going through the game. Apparently there's a glitch in the game that lets you get high level loot for a monster that is different than the one you're currently chaining. The example being that if you chain Hyenas and reach the big ole golden medallion and you petrify a Wildsnake for example, the chain isn't broken. And on top of that, once that enemy is petrified, the loot it drops will be the same as the monsters you've been chaining... so you'll get a giant medallion instead of a baggy, with the appropriate loot amounts inside.

Shit, I'm going to try this on Bombshell+Larvae Eater tommorow...

Oh, and you see the enemy that you petrified? Move one mini-map away and it will respawn without needing the 2-map zoning rule normally in place. Good God, I needed this.

FELIPE NO

After this, I'm sorta out of things to do, besides going fishing. There are no more hunts besides Gilgamesh, so hunts are at a stop for now. After I clean up Exodus, the espers will be too high for me now. So now I'm either doing the hunt club, fishing, or that foot race, which looks so boring. I'm closing in faster than I thought! Also, as in terms of story, I'm surprised I'm over 80% done.

Spoiler:

Currently STILL at Balfonhiem, and I haven't gone to the feywood yet.

That was a pretty quick game, I have to say. Out of 100 hours so far, at least 50 has been for side stuff, wow.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Wait... wait, what!? Helvinek/Bombshell glitch? I haven't even heard of any of those, care to explain? Danjuro's dropped by Larvae Eater which you can force a spawn of if you make a chain of 255 Necrophobes and then head to one of 3 platforms. Other than that, I've only caught him near the XVII waystone randomly.

This Helvinek method is very useful and one of the most reliable ways for a guaranteed Grand Armor posted on GameFaqs forum I believe. (Can't post the video since YouTube is down).

1st.) First you spawn Helvinek by killing 6 Oversouls (I think).

2nd.) This part is important: [Wherever Helvinek spawns, you only kill him in the zone that he spawned in!]

Let him follow until you are all the way near the end of a zone and are able to see those floating blue dots that signifies that the zone is at its end so that you can easily flee from one zone to another. Beat him up and keep track of his power until he is at HP Critical status.

3rd.) This is important to: [AS soon as you kill Helvinek, QUICKLY run from where you've killed him to the next zone. IF you have time to pick up his loot, pick it up] What I mean by this is that once you've killed Helvinek, you'll have about 2-3 sec to pick up his loot and go to your closest zone until he dissapears permanently.

(If you want to pick up Helvinek's loot, stay at his SIDE, pick it up and immediately run to the next zone! This process should take about 2-3 sec. If you kill him and run to the next zone you should NOT have seen Helvinek's EXP. and LP points earned. Make sure to switch zones right before his corpse collapses onto the floor.)

4th.) Once you've immediately killed Helvinek and are in the next zone, GO BACk to where you've originally fought it.

5th.) Helvinek re-appears and you can now keep chaining him! Repeat 2nd - 4th method again.

This method is said to work for Bombshells but I find it hard to believe since Bombshell's figure is a sphere and I don't think you can pick up loot at his side.

If that doesn't work for Bombshell, you can try to do the zoning trick.

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1st.) Go to Lasche Span section in Lhusu (bridge with Aeronites)

2nd.) Look for Bombshell by running all the way down to Site 5

3rd.) If Bombshell wasn't there, keep zoning from Site 5 to Lasche Span. Loading time should be relatively quick (do NOTzone from Lasche Span to Site 11 because loading time to switch from zone to zone is longer) Do this about 10-15 times or so. By continuiosly zoning, you will eventually lock Bombshell in place at Lasche and he will stay there permanently until you've defeated him.

4th.) Most likely if you go back to Lasche Span, you should find Bombshell somewhere. Let him follow you until you've reached the edge of the zone. Then fight him.

5th) Take his loot and FLEE all the way to Site 9 .( If you are using a party member with Berserk to fight him, make sure that after you've killed him to switch that party member with another. Sometimes Berserk party members may inadvertently attack enemies while still in Fleeing mode which may break the chain.) Then repeat steps 1 - 5

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Use Karchy's method from Gamespot for the Danjuro and I swear to God, I did NOT have to kill 255 Necrophobes OR do the Mom Bomb method OR chain Larva Eater in order to drop a Danjuro. Personally, this method is NOT 100% guranteed.

1st.) Go to Leo Gate Switch in Great Crystal

2nd.) This is what I did: Killed all the Necrophobes until no more spawned.

3rd.) When no more Necrophobes spawn, zone to Leo Gate I and go back to Leo Gate Switch

4th.) This is important: (From now on, keep zoning from Leo Gate Switch to Waystone XIV. This part is really time consuming. You may want to get a rubber band and force the analog stick to point DOWN so you will automatically zone form Waystone XIV area to Leo Gate Switch area)

5th.) Check and see if Larva Eater is at Waystone XIV. Reapers may also spawn here but it doesn't matter except if you want to chain him. If he is, fight him, obviously.

6th.) This is important: (Do NOT use 2-Handed weapons that push enemies away when fighting Larva Eater. By using 2-Handed weapons like Excal. Tourn. you might knock him to the edge of where the Waystone is. Ninja swords are an exception. When you do that, he will NOT drop anything if you kill him by knocking him to the edge.) Play it safe and bring him near the Waystone to kill him. Then pick up the loot he drops (if any)

7th.) Once you've killed him, go all the way back to Leo Gate I and then back to Waystone XIV area. If he is not here, keep zoning from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch.

Mind you Larva Eater's rarity is 1 star, it shouldn't take 255 kills for a 1-star rare game to kill right?

I hope these guides work and I thank all of these people for making such wonderful guides!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

This Helvinek method is very useful and one of the most reliable ways for a guaranteed Grand Armor posted on GameFaqs forum I believe. (Can't post the video since YouTube is down).

Spoiler:

1st.) First you spawn Helvinek by killing 6 Oversouls (I think).

2nd.) This part is important: [Wherever Helvinek spawns, you only kill him in the zone that he spawned in!]

Let him follow until you are all the way near the end of a zone and are able to see those floating blue dots that signifies that the zone is at its end so that you can easily flee from one zone to another. Beat him up and keep track of his power until he is at HP Critical status.

3rd.) This is important to: [AS soon as you kill Helvinek, QUICKLY run from where you've killed him to the next zone. IF you have time to pick up his loot, pick it up] What I mean by this is that once you've killed Helvinek, you'll have about 2-3 sec to pick up his loot and go to your closest zone until he dissapears permanently.

(If you want to pick up Helvinek's loot, stay at his SIDE, pick it up and immediately run to the next zone! This process should take about 2-3 sec. If you kill him and run to the next zone you should NOT have seen Helvinek's EXP. and LP points earned. Make sure to switch zones right before his corpse collapses onto the floor.)

4th.) Once you've immediately killed Helvinek and are in the next zone, GO BACk to where you've originally fought it.

5th.) Helvinek re-appears and you can now keep chaining him! Repeat 2nd - 4th method again.

This method is said to work for Bombshells but I find it hard to believe since Bombshell's figure is a sphere and I don't think you can pick up loot at his side.

If that doesn't work for Bombshell, you can try to do the zoning trick.

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1st.) Go to Lasche Span section in Lhusu (bridge with Aeronites)

2nd.) Look for Bombshell by running all the way down to Site 5

3rd.) If Bombshell wasn't there, keep zoning from Site 5 to Lasche Span. Loading time should be relatively quick (do NOTzone from Lasche Span to Site 11 because loading time to switch from zone to zone is longer) Do this about 10-15 times or so. By continuiosly zoning, you will eventually lock Bombshell in place at Lasche and he will stay there permanently until you've defeated him.

4th.) Most likely if you go back to Lasche Span, you should find Bombshell somewhere. Let him follow you until you've reached the edge of the zone. Then fight him.

5th) Take his loot and FLEE all the way to Site 9 .( If you are using a party member with Berserk to fight him, make sure that after you've killed him to switch that party member with another. Sometimes Berserk party members may inadvertently attack enemies while still in Fleeing mode which may break the chain.) Then repeat steps 1 - 5

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Use Karchy's method from Gamespot for the Danjuro and I swear to God, I did NOT have to kill 255 Necrophobes OR do the Mom Bomb method OR chain Larva Eater in order to drop a Danjuro. Personally, this method is NOT 100% guranteed.

1st.) Go to Leo Gate Switch in Great Crystal

2nd.) This is what I did: Killed all the Necrophobes until no more spawned.

3rd.) When no more Necrophobes spawn, zone to Leo Gate I and go back to Leo Gate Switch

4th.) This is important: (From now on, keep zoning from Leo Gate Switch to Waystone XIV. This part is really time consuming. You may want to get a rubber band and force the analog stick to point DOWN so you will automatically zone form Waystone XIV area to Leo Gate Switch area)

5th.) Check and see if Larva Eater is at Waystone XIV. Reapers may also spawn here but it doesn't matter except if you want to chain him. If he is, fight him, obviously.

6th.) This is important: (Do NOT use 2-Handed weapons that push enemies away when fighting Larva Eater. By using 2-Handed weapons like Excal. Tourn. you might knock him to the edge of where the Waystone is. Ninja swords are an exception. When you do that, he will NOT drop anything if you kill him by knocking him to the edge.) Play it safe and bring him near the Waystone to kill him. Then pick up the loot he drops (if any)

7th.) Once you've killed him, go all the way back to Leo Gate I and then back to Waystone XIV area. If he is not here, keep zoning from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch.

Mind you Larva Eater's rarity is 1 star, it shouldn't take 255 kills for a 1-star rare game to kill right?

I hope these guides work and I thank all of these people for making such wonderful guides!

What!? There's no way that Helvinek trick works, he simply disappears too fast. I'd have to manually kill him, with no gambits on whatsoever to make a break that fast. Picking up the loot, which is the whole point, seems to be entirely too difficult without breaking the chain. Larvae Eater's is absolutely insane. That zoning from not one, two, but three maps? What if the Reapers pop? It just seems like even more of a hassle that may not even net you the desired results.

Bombshell's is by far the most reasonable, which is essentially locking him into the field by simply going from the span to 5 over and over again. Kill, repeat the zone-in-out thing until he spawns again. Right?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

What!? There's no way that Helvinek trick works, he simply disappears too fast. I'd have to manually kill him, with no gambits on whatsoever to make a break that fast. Picking up the loot, which is the whole point, seems to be entirely too difficult without breaking the chain. Larvae Eater's is absolutely insane. That zoning from not one, two, but three maps? What if the Reapers pop? It just seems like even more of a hassle that may not even net you the desired results.

Bombshell's is by far the most reasonable, which is essentially locking him into the field by simply going from the span to 5 over and over again. Kill, repeat the zone-in-out thing until he spawns again. Right?

You zone from one zone to the other. Only two zones are involved When I say have him near the edge of the zone. I mean that if you were to flee away to the next zone it should take to secs. tops to move to the next zone. That's how close to the edge you'll have to be

For example: If Helvinek appears at Cloister of Distant Song, you drag him all the way near the end of the zone where the stairs are; near the Cloister of the Highborn. When you are fighting Helvinek near the stairs close to the edge of the zone when he dies, you hurry up and move to Cloister of the Highborn. That's it. If done successfully, Helvinek will respawn at Cloister of Highborn also! Your first priority is making sure you have enough to time to zone out.

But do Not kill him there. Kill him at Clositer of Distant Song, where he originally spawned. So go back to Cloister of Distant Song

Make sure to have your party leader have one gambit on: Foe nearest - Attack.

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For the Bombshell method, you are correct. After he dies go back two spaces to respawn him. And he will eventually be locked by moving from Lasche to Site 5

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For Larva Eater, once you've killed him the first time, you go back two spaces to Leo Gate I. Since you've killed all the Necrophobes in Leo Gate Switch, no more will be there. After that you only zone from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch. Kinda like Bombshell method.

When you've killed Larva Eater, move to Leo Gate Switch, then Leo Gate I. Then back to Leo Gate Switch and back to Waystone XIV. AFter that ONLY alternate from Waystone XIV to Leo Gate Switch area. If you want to continue your chain on Larva, I guess you can drag the Reapers (if they come) and bring them to HP Critical status so they can do Dimensional Rift onto you.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

You zone from one zone to the other. Only two zones are involved

For example: If Helvinek appears at Cloister of Distant Song, you drag him all the near the end of the zone where the stairs; near the Cloister of the Highborn. When you are fighting Helvinek near the stairs close to the edge of the zone and he dies, you hurry up and move to Cloister of the Highborn. That's it. If done successfully, Helvinek will respawn at Cloister of Highborn also!

But do Not kill him there. Kill him at Clositer of Distant Song, where he originally spawned.

In other words, you lure him to the edge of the zone, kill him and then run into the following map. He'll spawn there right in front of you, but simply go back to the one where you actually killed him in? I read up on the method like 3 times, but there doesn't seem to be any time/space to take the loot BEFORE he fades/exp appears because he lands right on it.

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Make sure to have your party leader have one gambit on: Foe nearest - Attack.

Ah, to avoid post-battle buffing and to make the breakaway clean?

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For the Bombshell method, you are correct. After he dies go back three spaces.

Three spaces? Don't you need two to reset the map, then you constantly zone between 5 and Lasche to make him appear? I think I understand, unlike the Danjuro shit which is insanely complicated. Too much to watch out for (goddamn reapers, for example, are too frequent at that waystone), making it a little futile. Can't discount what I've read in my googling of these methods though (it works).

I found out that Bombshell drops 3 Yagyus at regular chain intervals, so maybe I'll get lucky (hopefully I dont have to go as high as 74 chain).

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

In other words, you lure him to the edge of the zone, kill him and then run into the following map. He'll spawn there right in front of you, but simply go back to the one where you actually killed him in? I read up on the method like 3 times, but there doesn't seem to be any time/space to take the loot BEFORE he fades/exp appears because he lands right on it.).

Your are correct about the method. For the loot, that's why you pick the loot at his side. Keep hugging him at his waist and you should be able to pick up the loot. You can't pick it up if he is facing you or if you are behind him. Get at his side. If you aren't able to pick up the loot it time, zone out immediately!

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Ah, to avoid post-battle buffing and to make the breakaway clean?.)

Correct!

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Three spaces? Don't you need two to reset the map, then you constantly zone between 5 and Lasche to make him appear? I think I understand, unlike the Danjuro shit which is insanely complicated. Too much to watch out for (goddamn reapers, for example, are too frequent at that waystone), making it a little futile. Can't discount what I've read in my googling of these methods though (it works)

I think I've edited this post after I originally posted it. Sorry

But it's ridiculous to go past a Lvl.2 chain for a Yagyu to drop. You should get it at least at your 30th kill

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Your are correct about the method. For the loot, that's why you pick the loot at his side. Keep hugging him at his waist and you should be able to pick up the loot. You can't pick it up if he is facing you or if you are behind him. Get at his side.

Ok, so stick to his side while staying as close to the zone edge as possible and once I pick it up, dash through. If I can't get the loot, run to the next zone? I assume yes in order to preserve the chain, no?

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Correct!

Good, I wrote it down then. From what I've seen, this is a runner-up with the Helvinek trick in terms of effectiveness. I'll probably have 3 YD as many have using this.

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I think I've edited this post after I originally posted it. Sorry

But it's ridiculous to go past a Lvl.2 chain for a Yagyu to drop. You should get it at least at your 30th kill

Yeah, some folsk mentioned they got 3 at 24, 30, 74. There were some others but those were the ones I remembered. If I'm past 30, break the chain and start over?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Ok, so stick to his side while staying as close to the zone edge as possible and once I pick it up, dash through. If I can't get the loot, run to the next zone? I assume yes in order to preserve the chain, no?

Yes! Yes! Running to the next zone is TOP priority. You always have an infinite number of chances to get the loot again and most likely, you want to get the chain as high as possible so there is no need actually to start picking up loot at the early stages of the chain.

But if an enemy decides to come up out of nowhere in the middle of the battle, leave Helvinek alone, kill the enemy who is interrupting, and then return back to Helvinek.

Has the method worked so far?

FELIPE NO

So the three fights I basically have left before entering the Leviathin are Yizmat, Omega, and Zodiark. The first I want to take down would be the Zodiark but I truly hate traveling through the Henne Mines now(is there a reccomended level for that fight, I am currently in the high 80's). Then I plan on moving onto the Omega fight, leaving Yizmat to be my Finale!

I have to say that all of this discussion of the Helvenik is quite interesting. I think that tomorrow when I get some free time I will have to give'er a test run of my own and see what I can come up with!

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Yes! Yes! Running to the next zone is TOP priority. You always have an infinite number of chances to get the loot again and most likely, you want to get the chain as high as possible so there is no need actually to start picking up loot at the early stages of the chain.

But if an enemy decides to come up out of nowhere in the middle of the battle, leave Helvinek alone, kill the enemy who is interrupting, and then return back to Helvinek.

Has the method worked so far?

!!! Nothing has popped up while I've been chaining Helvinek (currently at 20). I'd rather not break the chain, as I know that if you don't pick up the loot, you gain chain levels very quickly. When I start getting the big ole medallions, I'll snag them. They're bigger, so I run less risk of taking too long. Maybe I'll get like 3 Grand Armor.

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So the three fights I basically have left before entering the Leviathin are Yizmat, Omega, and Zodiark. The first I want to take down would be the Zodiark but I truly hate traveling through the Henne Mines now(is there a reccomended level for that fight, I am currently in the high 80's). Then I plan on moving onto the Omega fight, leaving Yizmat to be my Finale!

You could take him on now, but your HP might be a little lower than what you'd need to survive the abuse with Bubble Belts equipped. You'll probably do fine, though make sure your B-Team is Haste/Protect/Shell/Brave/Etc with them ready for combat. It's best to be prepared (White Masks for the rare Banishing Ray, Black Masks for Darkja) since the latter attack inflicts a random death effect. The mask will absorb the dark damage, but the effect will still take place. It can and will kill your entire active party, so be prepared to bring out the other guys, and do a quick Arise before swapping them out.

Yeah, leave Yiazmat last... and then to ride that high to its peak, finish the game right after going back to Montblanc and getting that praise. Definitely finished the game the first time with a bang.

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I have to say that all of this discussion of the Helvenik is quite interesting. I think that tomorrow when I get some free time I will have to give'er a test run of my own and see what I can come up with!

Yeah, probably the easiest one out of these techniques to use. I was loving that Chain+Break trick before I started on Helvinek. I got Humbabas to drop Beastlord Horns like nothing.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Well, personally I've gotten 2 Grand Armors after my 80th chain so most likely you'll see it soon. No more recipes for making High Arcana since would basically be getting them while picking up the loot!

Also, does anyone have a method for beating Zodiark and/or Yiazmat without Reverse?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Well, personally I've gotten 2 Grand Armors after my 80th chain so most likely you'll see it soon. No more recipes for making High Arcana since would basically be getting them while picking up the loot!

Exactly, that'd make getting the Tournesol EXTREMELY easy, as it cuts out one entire chunk of items needed. You know which method would probably drive me fucking mad? Tower. Essentially, you save at the save point all the way at the top of the Pharos, use the metallic warp to go back down to 79 and...

• Warp back up to 88 until it appears
• Kill him and then run up to 88
• Repeat the first part. This way you chain him and eventually he'll drop the helmet, but simply getting him to show up when I was finishing my bestiary (bitch was the final monster), was a mindnumbing experience.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

!!! Yeah, probably the easiest one out of these techniques to use. I was loving that Chain+Break trick before I started on Helvinek. I got Humbabas to drop Beastlord Horns like nothing.

Yea I think that leaving Yizmat right before the end of the game would be quite a high to finish on.
Now you said you have made the Humbaba's drop the Beastlord honrsn often eh? Did you have to have a considerable high chain in order to make them drop said item? That's basically the one item that has seemed to evade me throughout the game! I tried fighting Catoblepas on five sperate occasions whilst getting no Beastlord Horn! Therefore it obviously made it impossible for me to get the Saggaurtis (sp?) Bow. Not that I am adamant about using it but the Perfectionis side of me would indeed like to add it to my repertoire!

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

Yea I think that leaving Yizmat right before the end of the game would be quite a high to finish on.
Now you said you have made the Humbaba's drop the Beastlord honrsn often eh? Did you have to have a considerable high chain in order to make them drop said item? That's basically the one item that has seemed to evade me throughout the game! I tried fighting Catoblepas on five sperate occasions whilst getting no Beastlord Horn! Therefore it obviously made it impossible for me to get the Saggaurtis (sp?) Bow. Not that I am adamant about using it but the Perfectionis side of me would indeed like to add it to my repertoire!

No. You see those damn Wolgen all over the place in the Mosphoran Highwaste? Set your gambits so that your characters only attack them. Build up a nice chain with them, then turn off your gambits and use Break on a Humbaba. When they turn to stone, they'll drop their loot as if you'd been chaining them (LOL! Whoever tries to do this shit is insane, they're too spread out). This doesn't break your chain, provides you with the rare item you want, AND, if you go only one screen away, they'll be normal again ready for more petrification. If you don't get the item you want, simply chain more of the weaker enemy, then go petrify the one you want the item from.


The drawback is that this doesn't work on enemies that are immune to break. If they aren't they're game for this little exploitative trick.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

You know which method would probably drive me fucking mad? Tower. Essentially, you save at the save point all the way at the top of the Pharos, use the metallic warp to go back down to 79 and...

• Warp back up to 88 until it appears
• Kill him and then run up to 88
• Repeat the first part. This way you chain him and eventually he'll drop the helmet, but simply getting him to show up when I was finishing my bestiary (bitch was the final monster), was a mindnumbing experience.

Did you pre-kill those golems in Mosphoran Heights first to get your chain up, then go to Pharos? It's way more easier that way.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

No. You see those damn Wolgen all over the place in the Mosphoran Highwaste? Set your gambits so that your characters only attack them. Build up a nice chain with them, then turn off your gambits and use Break on a Humbaba. When they turn to stone, they'll drop their loot as if you'd been chaining them (LOL! Whoever tries to do this shit is insane, they're too spread out). This doesn't break your chain, provides you with the rare item you want, AND, if you go only one screen away, they'll be normal again ready for more petrification. If you don't get the item you want, simply chain more of the weaker enemy, then go petrify the one you want the item from.


The drawback is that this doesn't work on enemies that are immune to break. If they aren't they're game for this little exploitative trick.

Well since i don't have all that much left to do I suppose I wouldn't mind going on some more rare-loot hunts. I can't see it being any more infuriating then some of the loot needed to acquire the Torunsol! Even though it was well worth it obviously, I would still like the most powerful bow in the game. So I suppose I will just look at it as another challenge to overcome. Even if it is a frustrating loot to find this is one game in which I would be willing to spend all of the time to find the neccessary items! (BTW I just crossed the 135 hour mark!, the most I have put into a game in quite some time). The sad thing is, well I don't and am sure many people don't find it to be so, is that I am seriously contemplating starting the game over. One reason is so I can utilize Fran (there is just something about those ears huh? lol), and the second reason being getting the Zodiac Spear, which I missed due to the whole treasure chest fiasco. So we shall see. For now I think I will just level up and go hate-fuck Zodiark, god willing, as well as my secondary party haha.

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Originally Posted by Yuyu_Zeta

Did you pre-kill those golems in Mosphoran Heights first to get your chain up, then go to Pharos? It's way more easier that way.

!!!

I'm not in the Pharos now, I'm still chaining Helvinek, but that's an awesome idea. They're the same genus, so it'd work. The only problem is that there's like 4 in all of the Highwaste. Maybe going in and out of the campsite will do it? Whoops, NVM. Entering any area where you're switched to Vaan ends chains.

BTW, I read that you have to go behind Tower so he can fall towards the warp, and not the elevator or he falls out of bounds?

Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

Well since i don't have all that much left to do I suppose I wouldn't mind going on some more rare-loot hunts. I can't see it being any more infuriating then some of the loot needed to acquire the Torunsol! Even though it was well worth it obviously, I would still like the most powerful bow in the game. So I suppose I will just look at it as another challenge to overcome. Even if it is a frustrating loot to find this is one game in which I would be willing to spend all of the time to find the neccessary items! (BTW I just crossed the 135 hour mark!, the most I have put into a game in quite some time). The sad thing is, well I don't and am sure many people don't find it to be so, is that I am seriously contemplating starting the game over. One reason is so I can utilize Fran (there is just something about those ears huh? lol), and the second reason being getting the Zodiac Spear, which I missed due to the whole treasure chest fiasco. So we shall see. For now I think I will just level up and go hate-fuck Zodiark, god willing, as well as my secondary party haha.

Heh, good luck. I wouldn't restart the game for a spear, especially not after everything I've done.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?