[Multiplatform] Street Fighter 4 - For some reason they're still putting in characters other than Ken

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz

Free cross up attempts on wakeup are a nightmare to deal with.

I imagine that could be dealt with by the vertical hurricane kick. Since that goes directly up you can probably use that as a recovery move on wake-up.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I just pre-ordered mines and damn all these videos are making me more eager to get the game in my ps3 already. It looks like they canned some of ryus moves in order to give them to gouken though.
I may just get hd remix just to kill time this month.

FELIPE NO

So GT has a new trailer up which demonstrates all the English voice artists for SFIV. All I'm going to say is that I'll be switching pretty much most of them back to the Japanese VA once I unlock it (except maybe some of the English speakers and a couple of others, like Zangief).

Cammy's English voice is still <3 though.

Trailer linky: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44551.html

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

So GT has a new trailer up which demonstrates all the English voice artists for SFIV. All I'm going to say is that I'll be switching pretty much most of them back to the Japanese VA once I unlock it (except maybe some of the English speakers and a couple of others, like Zangief).

Cammy's English voice is still <3 though.

Trailer linky: Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Exclusive Story Trailer HD

Yeah, Seth's, Cammy's, Zangief's and C.Viper's are the only decent ones. Abel's sounds alright but so god damn boring, like his va was uninterested. I'm really liking Seth's. Dan's of course, is just hilarious because they went with the most effeminate voice they could find.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Akuma's voice was the most WTF out of the lot. Because seriously, WTF?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

I imagine that could be dealt with by the vertical hurricane kick. Since that goes directly up you can probably use that as a recovery move on wake-up.

That is under the assumption that it starts off with invuln frames. I'd like to think that the EX version will. Even if he ends up not having a proper recovery move (aside from his super), that doesn't mean he's gonna suck. Dictator is high tier in Super Turbo and he has no reliable recovery move outside of his super. Devil Reverse is too risky to use vs jump ins.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

capcom knows how to milk these trailers.
I will also mix the audio for the characters but I will keep some english voices. Why would i want guile speaking japanese, psh.

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Well it doesn't matter at first anyway. Don't we have to beat the game atleast once before we get the option to pick for each character?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yea, that's what I've read. Pretty much have to beat the game once before getting the option.

The english dub is pretty good IMO, I wouldn't mind just leaving it all in english. In terms of tone, it sounds to be on par with Japanese dub. The only one that bugs me is Akuma, the guy sounds like he's out of breath whenever he spoke. Actually, he kinda sounds like Ocelot (Patric Zimmerman). Sagat sounds like Michael Duncan Clarke, which would be a little odd if it was indeed him since he's supposed to be playing Balrog in "The Legend of Chun-Li". Rose's voice reminds me of Adria from Diablo. Rather surprised they didn't try to give Abel a French accent. I wonder if Gouken says "huuuraaah" for his Hurricane kick as well.

And WTF was up with that exchange between Fei Long and Abel.

Abel: Hey! You're Fei-Long! Will you fight me?
Fei Long: If you insist.
Abel: Seriously?
Fei Long: I WON'T REPEAT MYSELF!

Haha and Blanka's line "You're a bad man!" The cheesy dialogue is probably what made some of the VA come off as bad.

Here's the game's intro video, it aired at the end of that 1up show from last week. Pretty much a collage of the ink trailers. It sounds like they opted for Japanese boyband pop for this entry in the series. The music in the second half is gold, basically the theme of SF4 (used in various trailers and is the stage theme to Volcanic Rim). The first half would have been much better had they done away with the vocals (the instrumental version is actually the character select music).

YouTube Video

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

What the hell? did they get the backstreet boys to sing that?
Should have figured that street fighter tracks with lyrics would turn out like that (SF3)

Oh and the english voice trailer has more dialog than the japanese version, guess they wanted to give more about the rivalries

FELIPE NO

Via SRK again:

Canadian sticks are up to 189.99, same SKUs as before, but are now, as of TODAY, preorderable. Shipment is end of March.

Fuck that price. Go custom.

And don't be the idiot to buy the damn thing for 250 USD off of eBay, because then I will be forced to kill you.

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$190 Canadian dollars, that's what you're bitching about? Get the fuck out. That's like £105 which is almost 50% cheaper than we're getting it over here.

Also, whilst the music in the first half of the intro ain't great, it's easily ignored just by get lost in the awesome visuals (yes yes, it's stuff from the trailers, but it's still top notch).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I don't think I ever once attempted to justify the costs of the British unit.

I'd have bitched about the initial cost of the TE, but the initial American price point is just at the border of being somewhat understandable all things considered.

I had caught some earlier pics about the insides and ease of customization/repair, but I hadn't gotten a look at a good, decent res shot of the regular edition until today. The addition of the quick disconnects for the buttons and the whole separate block they're attached to means button replacements would take you a max total of 5 minutes, and even an idiot could do it. I was fearing it wouldn't be an option for the layman, but it's trivial.

Outside of the fact that the TE can be worth the investment simply because you don't have to tinker, you can get it out of the box on day one with no bullshit, and you don't have to worry about shipping multiple things and all that shit, it's fantastic. But for Canadians who won't get it on day one, which is a huge stickler for me, it begs the question of "why bother".

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Originally Posted by OutRunner

Outside of the fact that the TE can be worth the investment simply because you don't have to tinker, you can get it out of the box on day one with no bullshit, and you don't have to worry about shipping multiple things and all that shit, it's fantastic. But for Canadians who won't get it on day one, which is a huge stickler for me, it begs the question of "why bother".

Sure, I get that for you Canadians. However, for me the price difference, cost of additional parts, effort and hassle - albeit minor - of fitting them (not to mention the fact that you void your warranty by opening the sticks up), I'm happy to go with the TE stick option.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

It's by no means a bad option, especially when you consider the whole just open the damn box and fucking rock on angle, it's especially alluring.

There's just two major hits against it in the Canadian market, and considering I have nothing against getting my hands dirty and I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally don't want to be at a disadvantage playing with just the 360 controller and raging up a storm for what will probably be 6 weeks or more, I don't see the point.

Really the only person who should consider what I have to say is Hantei, since he's the only other guy I can think of who will be affected by the same things that changed my mind. But eh', he might think otherwise.

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WTF? Now its $40 more? Grrr, damn our weak ass dollar. I really hope this change in price doesn't get transitioned to the regular sticks as well.

I'm definitely gonna be sticking with the regular edition for the PS3 version now, and since its so noob friendly I may just mod it sometime later (if anything I wanna swap out the ball top for a bat instead). But I think I'll still slap down a pre-order for the 360 TE (still cheaper than importing), no way am I using the 360's controller for SF4, since I'm pretty set on picking up a copy of the 360 version sometime later time (whenever my buddy decides to take the blunge into the next gen). If I end up liking the regular edition better, then I'll just swap the TE for the RE instead.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Word is that it won't even be that difficult to mod it so a single stick will work on both systems. A guy on SRK is planning on selling some mods that'll let you do that easily, apparently there might even be a solderless option for it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Nice, that reassuring especially after finding out that EB is apparently sold out of the TE sticks already (stopped by a couple hours ago). It seems that they got an e-mail today saying that they're to stop taking pre-orders for them.

The wierd thing is that the girl there said they had been taking pre-orders for the TE sticks for a while now. Now that right there is BS to me, considering I stopped by just 2 weeks ago to make my pre-order, so I assumed that they misheard what I asked about. I reiterated that it was the TE stick I wanted and if they were sure, so the guy (just two clerks on site) there then went to check the computer and noticed there were two sticks (I guess he didn't realize there was 2 different ones) and asked the girl if she was sure. Forgot what was said exactly but I heard something like pre-orders for CE and sticks were done/cut-off. Anyway, both clerks seemed confused now and the guy said he'd let me make a pre-order but said there's no gurantee that I'll actually get one.

So basically, I got to pre-order a TE but may not actually get it and if I wanted regular version I'm shit outta luck. Oh well, I guess the good that comes out of not getting a TE means I'll save myself $200. Hearing that it may not be that hard to mod the sticks to work on both consoles is good news though, means all I'll have to do is just focus on modding the one. I'll still keep checking amazon.ca, maybe I'll get lucky there.

FELIPE NO

Wait, they're cutting off preorders for the regular stick or for the CE version of the game? I'm confused by the wording, sorry.

I'll check in tomorrow to double check both just in case, though. I didn't put a PO in for the regular stick since I haven't been to EB since I checked those TE SKUs last weekend.

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I'm not really sure anymore. It may have been misinterpretation on my part, and could be just the location that I pre-order at is where they've stopped taking pre-orders for both items (sold out is the word I recall hearing). But yea, if you haven't pre-ordered a regular stick I advise you do it ASAP, cause I definitely recall them saying they couldn't take any more for the regular 360 sticks (again, could have just been my location where they've sold out).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

More questions than answers from EB! HOW SURPRISING.

So I confirmed that you are correct. The regular stick has ceased preorders! As have the CE of the game! And so have the pads, at least at the two stores I called. Possibly chainwide, I don't know. Fuck off, why was the allocation for Canada for the SE's and pads so small? Ugh.

This saddens me because of how poorly this was handled. Not knowing about the TE's status in this country until too late caused me to put off my SE stick preorder, which resulted in me not getting one. The general clusterfuck of OH GOD WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON inspired a bit of rage.

But when I was there, I asked about the TE in order to doublecheck. They're still taking orders for that. Ok, fair enough. At this point it's either SE + parts in march if we get a second shipment, or a TE in March.

So I PO'd the TE to be safe. But on a whim I asked about the release of it, and he said it was in the system for the same day as the SE stick's release, or aka when the game comes out.

Which conflicts with all the other information we've read so far. Great. THAT'S HELPS A LOT.

So at this point I still expect the TE to be here in March, but I guess there's an outside chance for someone to notice what the fuck is going on and make sure it hits up here when it's damn well supposed to. Who the fuck knows anymore.

I'm just annoyed that I didn't quite get what I wanted, but this option is fine too.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Wow, even the pads they've cut-off? So basically they only thing you can still pre-order is the regular edition of the game, and TE stick if you're lucky (yea I'm not expecting to see the TE's till March, must be a mistake on their end). I'm guessing the demand wasn't what they had expected for the game. You know what would be funny? If Futureshop or Best Buy ends up carrying the sticks and pads, in decent stock, on day one. All that trouble with EB for nothing.


On another note, there are a ton of new vids at Gametrailers

Seth Killian showing off the fight sticks once again (regular and tourny editions)
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Joystick Demo

Seth K. giving us some gameplay footage of Akuma, Gouken, and Seth. It looks like Gouken's Hadoken's angle is effected by the punch used (jab for the horizontal).
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Character Walkthrough: Akuma
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Character Walkthrough: Gouken
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Character Walkthrough: Seth

Nice collection of EX Moves for the various characters
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - EX Moves Montage
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - EX Moves Montage II
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - EX Moves Montage III
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - EX Moves Montage IV

Collection of the Supers
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Extended Super Moves Montage

Collection of the Ultras
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Extended Ultra Moves Montage

And a nice little montage of all the character's faces in agonizing pain to Rose's Ultra, with a WTF at the end (can you actually do that?).
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Rose Ultra-Shock Showcase

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Hantei

And a nice little montage of all the character's faces in agonizing pain to Rose's Ultra, with a WTF at the end (can you actually do that?).
Gametrailers.com - Street Fighter IV - Rose Ultra-Shock Showcase

That was so funny. Rufus's face killed me.

About the Rose vs Rose thing, I think is a montage. You can see at the very end that they kill each other with a focus attack.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Man, I'm looking forward to this game. I was wracking my brain on which version to get, but I decided on the Xbox 360 version, in the end. I'd like to invest in an arcade stick, too, reasonably cheap, but I don't know which ones are good. Not getting that super expensive stick that is Street Fighter IV themed.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Watching a new (?) interview with Seth Killian about the SF community he mentioned something that I hadn't heard before that I thought was quite interesting: when you set up a game online it'll work like an arcade, in that you'll play against the computer until someone steps in to fight you, so no waiting around in lobbies. Sounds neat.

Good lord I wish they'd hurry up and release this game already.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?