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[Movie] Transformers Movie (07-04-07)
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Old Jul 4, 2007, 10:25 PM Local time: Jul 4, 2007, 10:25 PM #326 of 366
I have a question for the people who have seen the movie. I have a brother who is youngish, he plays some Teen rated stuff with me sometimes. Is this movie scary or really violent?

For a benchmark, I drew the line at Advent Children.

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Old Jul 4, 2007, 10:38 PM Local time: Jul 4, 2007, 10:38 PM #327 of 366
I have a question for the people who have seen the movie. I have a brother who is youngish, he plays some Teen rated stuff with me sometimes. Is this movie scary or really violent?

For a benchmark, I drew the line at Advent Children.
Masturbation is mention in the movie; what do you think?

Overall it's not that bad for kids to see though there is violence; which is to be expected.

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Old Jul 4, 2007, 11:26 PM Local time: Jul 4, 2007, 11:26 PM #328 of 366
I just watched it with my brother today. Peter Cullen's voice is just gold - it definitely brings back memories, and if nothing else, tugs the heartstrings a little bit. I think that it set out to be a homage to the fans, a movie with lots of stuff going boom, and it accomplishes that goal very well. Most of the critics are saying that it's not cinematic gold, but that it does the job it sets out to do, which is fine.

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Old Jul 5, 2007, 12:50 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2007, 11:50 PM #329 of 366
I'm thinking Starscream will take over from Megatron, or perhaps Fuse with him, thus giving us Ultra Magnus for the climatic battle in the sequel.
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Old Jul 5, 2007, 02:23 AM Local time: Jul 5, 2007, 01:23 AM #330 of 366
Was anyone else surprised that the Transformers Theme didn't even make into the movie, not even the credits (stuck around to see if there were any more additional scenes after the credits themselves, none unfortunately)? Like the soundtrack came with Mutemath's cover of the theme song (which was ok, though does grow on you), but even that didn't make it in.

Since I'm on about the music, anyone else slightly disappointed by the score? I mean it sound epic a times, but there was definitely nothing memorable about it. I kinda wish Bay had hired Zimmer to score the movie instead of Jablonsky.

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Old Jul 5, 2007, 04:29 AM Local time: Jul 5, 2007, 07:29 PM #331 of 366
One thing I'm wondering about is the release date. The trailers said the 4th of July but the movie came out on the 28th over here?

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Old Jul 5, 2007, 08:42 AM Local time: Jul 5, 2007, 07:42 AM #332 of 366
Good movie, I enjoyed it. Though the close-ups and 360 turnaround of the robots transforming during the fights scenes were making me dizzy.

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I missed the part where Starscream flew away, any clip of this? Also in addition to Starscream and Barricade fleeing the scene, Scorponok buried himself in the desert.


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Old Jul 5, 2007, 12:52 PM Local time: Jul 5, 2007, 10:52 AM #333 of 366
What?

Please read.

You might be thinking of someone else there, DN.
Yikes! Did I say Ultra Mag... Yes I did, its right there... huh.

Well... nevermind that then!

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Old Jul 5, 2007, 03:31 PM #334 of 366
DN I think the words you are looking for is Galvatron!

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Old Jul 5, 2007, 04:14 PM #335 of 366
Was anyone else surprised that the Transformers Theme didn't even make into the movie, not even the credits (stuck around to see if there were any more additional scenes after the credits themselves, none unfortunately)? Like the soundtrack came with Mutemath's cover of the theme song (which was ok, though does grow on you), but even that didn't make it in.

Since I'm on about the music, anyone else slightly disappointed by the score? I mean it sound epic a times, but there was definitely nothing memorable about it. I kinda wish Bay had hired Zimmer to score the movie instead of Jablonsky.
Yeah, I was really expecting to hear the theme song during the end credits. When I heard Linkin Park instead I was kinda bummed out.

As far as the score itself goes, it was alright. If it had some undertones of the TF theme it would've been better IMO.

I have to give it some props for beating the animated TF movie's music though.
No Weird Al music during the fight scenes = win.

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Old Jul 6, 2007, 12:40 AM #336 of 366
Hey I just checked out imdb.com and it has a Transformers 2 listed to come out in 2009. I saw the movie tonight and as i was sitting through the credits i said to myself, "I sure hope they make a sequel." Who do you think will reprise their roles?

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Old Jul 6, 2007, 09:37 AM Local time: Jul 6, 2007, 07:37 AM #337 of 366
Freaking amazing movie. Best theater experience I've had since Snakes on a Plane last year. <3 Best LOL scene where the theater went absolutely nuts:

Spoiler:
FBI raid scene chasing down Anthony Anderson's cousin.

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Anyway, hecka fun movie, and I might be watching it again this weekend, making it the first movie I'd see twice in theaters since 2001.

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Old Jul 6, 2007, 09:33 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2007, 07:33 PM #338 of 366
Dude, That blond bitch with the fake accent was ANNOYING AS HELL (the "hacker" or whatever the fuck)

Everytime she talked I wanted to punch the person sitting next to me in the face

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Old Jul 8, 2007, 12:12 PM #339 of 366
The jokes almost ruined it for me. They were awkwardly unfunny. The only genuinely funny sequence was the one nazpyro mentioned. Anthony Anderson was actually decent, which should tell you how low the comedy was in this movie.

I mean, the comedy bits really bogged down the movie. I was totally into the film until the whole hide the Autobots from Shia's parents scene. And then the following scene with the Sector 7 agents (especially John Turturro) simply made the movie lame. Man, these scenes sucked so bad.

Whoever wrote the dialogue for this movie is really out of touch with the mainstream public. If they wanted to be trendy and have pop-culture humor, they missed the mark. Completely.

Besides that, everything else was fine. I wasn't expecting much of the story because, seriously, Transformers never had a great plot. The GM product placement didn't bother me, but everything else did (ebay, Xbox360, etc.).

The human characters were not too bad, although I was more interested in the Army guys than Shia LeBeouf and his creepy-eyed girlfriend. I was surprised by the lack of character development of the Transformers. I mean, I wasn't expecting a deep look into their characters, but if you can't distinguish one robot from the other, why are you going to care when they die?

The action is the only reason to see this movie. It was really fun watching everything blow up on screen. I was really impressed on how fluid and lifelike everything was. Truly amazing.

This was a good movie, but it could have been better. In the sequel (which is inevitable), I hope they cut down on the comedy, or at least hire someone that knows how to write it. Maybe then we'll have a movie that is actually worth remembering.

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Old Jul 8, 2007, 02:05 PM #340 of 366
Dude, That blond bitch with the fake accent was ANNOYING AS HELL (the "hacker" or whatever the fuck)

Everytime she talked I wanted to punch the person sitting next to me in the face
She was hot though.

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Reminds me of the original series when they'd have human drama I honestly wouldn't give a shit about. AKA Spike and his crew. Really I'm just amused by the people who think the movie is crap when it's basically spot on with the original (especially the first movie), robots battling + plot full of holes + commercialism.
Yeah. Well I went to see it again yesterday and I actually liked it better. I knew what to expect this time around with the plot revolving around the humans living through the Transformers' civil war, not a fanservice ode to cool robots. And I think it's better all-around movie that way.

Did anyone think it's kind of weird how the Decepticons have their own little language of crazy symbols until Megatron wakes up? I wonder why they decided to switch? I mean, besides the obvious "no one wants to read subtitles during action sequences because it detracts from the action."

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Old Jul 8, 2007, 11:53 PM Local time: Jul 8, 2007, 08:53 PM #341 of 366
Did anyone think it's kind of weird how the Decepticons have their own little language of crazy symbols until Megatron wakes up? I wonder why they decided to switch? I mean, besides the obvious "no one wants to read subtitles during action sequences because it detracts from the action."
They're speaking Cybertronian. As to why they stopped speaking Cybertronian when Megatron is unfrozen - who knows. It was cool regardless.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 9, 2007, 01:26 AM Local time: Jul 9, 2007, 01:26 AM #342 of 366
Since I'm on about the music, anyone else slightly disappointed by the score? I mean it sound epic a times, but there was definitely nothing memorable about it. I kinda wish Bay had hired Zimmer to score the movie instead of Jablonsky.
I thought the score fit the source material pretty well (actually I thought it was Zimmer with all that bombast). The only thing that really bothered me was the rock soundtrack mixed in at various points. It did more to jar me out of my suspension of disbelief than all the walking robots in the world.

I was actually set to be disappointed by this move after some of the reviews, but I ended up liking it a lot more than the blatant excuse for one-liners that was Die Hard.

Not to say that Transformers didn't have one-liners too, they just had a little more camouflage on them. =p

The jokes almost ruined it for me. They were awkwardly unfunny. The only genuinely funny sequence was the one nazpyro mentioned. Anthony Anderson was actually decent, which should tell you how low the comedy was in this movie.

Whoever wrote the dialogue for this movie is really out of touch with the mainstream public. If they wanted to be trendy and have pop-culture humor, they missed the mark. Completely.
I actually thought the humor was pretty good, given the kind of movie it was. I'll agree with you that there was too much of it, or that they intentionally dragged those scenes out for some snappy comebacks, but it's one of those blockbuster quirks. If you're shooting for a wide audience, you have to have stuff to break up the tension.

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Old Jul 9, 2007, 02:09 AM Local time: Jul 9, 2007, 01:09 AM #343 of 366
I just saw it today (went all over creation and back because it kept getting sold out) and I really enjoyed it. Out of the "summer films" I've seen so far (1408, SM3, PotC3) it was the one I liked best, hands-down. The transforming sequences were great, the voices were amazing (with the exception of Jazz, who I thought was just a little too cliched) and it moved at a brisk pace.

I went in thinking that they wouldn't show *that* much of the robots, despite the fact that they are the title of the movie, just because I assumed they would focus in on the "human aspect" of things. I really loved the eyes of the robots -- well, the designs in general, because they were very believable (if such a term can be applied here). I also liked the use of "Cybertronian" dialogue.
Of course I had some nitpicky things...like the drastic lack of Decepticon dialogue and shaky-camera fight scenes, but they're just silly complaints. I want a sequel, even though I don't, because I hatehatehate how movies are franchised so much these days.

As for the humor, I chalked it up to the whole "kids will be seeing this" angle. The Bumblebee-gastank bit and Sam's utterly pathetic/ridiculous annoying ploys to get a girl - and especially the fact that he was seemingly blind to his school social status as a loser. It just annoyed me. But I still liked Bumblebee.

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How did Bumblebee manage to talk at the end? He didn't say anything when he was being held captive (nor did they explain what the hell the 'anonymous government agency' was doing to him...they just kind of packed him up and kept shocking him) but somehow had a voice at the very end. Maybe I missed something?


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Old Jul 9, 2007, 02:41 AM Local time: Jul 8, 2007, 11:41 PM #344 of 366
Some of the jokes in the movie were not terribly funny but I couldn't help but notice some of the smaller details in the movie, such as the car freshener in Shia's car with the label "Beeotch" on it or the inscription on the police car transformer that said "to punish and enslave." But some of the internet and ebay jokes had me laughing not so much at it but rather at how awkward it all was, such as when Barricade (or was it Barricuda? that police transformer) inquired Shia by asking him to confirm his ebay user name or when asked how they learned how to talk the autobots replied that they had learned from the world wide web or from ebay.

Also apart from Megatron and Frenzy the rest of the Decepticons are rather quiet, apart when they all say "Hail Megatron" or when Starscream tells the Decepticons to move out. And even then Megatron and Frenzy come off as disappointingly dull characters, even though megatron has a few good quotes. Even with the Autobots, Prime and Bumblebee aside the rest of them might as well have not had names in the first place.

Spoiler:
the prime and megatron fight I found a bit disappointing, just them tackling each other and shooting each other occasionally, I wanted to see prime whip out that heat blade and shank megatron or something.


And I would also like to know...
Spoiler:
What happened to Scorpok? The one in the desert? They managed to blow off his tail but he is clearly still somewhat functional.

And on a final note, albeit undoubtly well mentioned note, the transformation animations are slick, if I ever had to justify transformers being anywhere near the realm of reality I'd use this film's VFX as a basis for my argument.

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Old Jul 9, 2007, 11:24 AM #345 of 366
I thought it was pretty terrible, but mainly because of Michael Bay. Honestly, he buries his films with increasingly more shaky camera and quick editing. I didn't understand what the hell was happening during the last 30 minutes.

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Really I'm just amused by the people who think the movie is crap when it's basically spot on with the original (especially the first movie), robots battling + plot full of holes + commercialism.
Except this movie is live action and made 20 years later.

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Old Jul 9, 2007, 01:37 PM Local time: Jul 10, 2007, 02:37 AM #346 of 366
Question:
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How did Bumblebee manage to talk at the end? He didn't say anything when he was being held captive (nor did they explain what the hell the 'anonymous government agency' was doing to him...they just kind of packed him up and kept shocking him) but somehow had a voice at the very end. Maybe I missed something?
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The Allspark fixed him.


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Old Jul 9, 2007, 09:29 PM #347 of 366
Scorponok will be back in the sequel since they never really showed his robot form.

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Old Jul 9, 2007, 10:51 PM Local time: Jul 9, 2007, 08:51 PM #348 of 366
Answer:
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The Allspark fixed him.
Wrong.

Spoiler:
It was stated in an Q&A session with one of the producers that the little laser Ratchet fired at him in the beginning of the movie was regenerative. By the end of the movie it had restored his voice. The producer admitted this could have been made much clearer.


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Old Jul 10, 2007, 03:35 AM Local time: Jul 10, 2007, 02:35 AM #349 of 366
Yeah, I thought about making that connection, but then I was like, "But that happened so long ago! That couldn't have been what it was." So that's why Ratchet said..erm...when he said "...yet."

There were several things that could have been made clearer.
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Old Jul 10, 2007, 07:01 PM Local time: Jul 10, 2007, 05:01 PM #350 of 366
I don't understand the people that didn't at least find this movie entertaining.

Those are usually the people that go into these sorts of movies expecting them to be bad.

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